Everyone wants this except CCP. why not?

CCP wants an ISK sink. This is brilliant. +1 and petition signed.

Why are so many people saying +1 when the OP has so few likes?
PLUS ONE MORE!

/signed

WE DESPERATELY NEED THIS CCP!

I remember my first Corp Battle was against the Imperfects. Thanks 843! lmao

BUMP

ya considering the current state of pc ( 50% of districts on nyain jap timers set right before down time so they can't be re-attacked ).

i'm thinking we just bring corp battles back, let pc be the wash that it is, and let's move on.

definetly /signed

I want in on this. I also want one on one matches. I also want skirmish 1.0 while we're asking for old things

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Why?

Want me to ring?

That's all I can do. If you want directors though you gotta talk to zaria, mj, or doc

Sorry neither of you use IRC and I don't know either of your skypes... I prefer to keep this stuff private, it's not above top secret but I don't like the Trolls here... I'll be available Saturday or Sunday or in the late night Thursday and Friday. I guess I does relate to getting CBs back just in-case it doesn't come next patch... and many other things.

Oh? if it's private then great, I've got class in 36 mins and have to get to campus, I'll be back in 3 hours and 15-20 mins

Signed, Bump

NEVER LET THE DREAM DIE

This needs to happen sooner rather than later as it gives the community a tool to create sandbox gameplay experiences. It allows us to create the game modes that we want on our terms. It would go a long way towards making it more feasible for smaller corps to practice for PC (if that is their end goal.) Further, imagine the crazy tactics that could be developed by top tier corps if you could deploy a team for both sides. You would have time to explore the map at your leisure, try out different squad and vehicle compositions, practice optimum positioning and movement for sweeping/clearing compounds, etc. The possibilities are endless. The most frustrating thing is that this game mode once existed. The amount of time and resources to get this game mode up and running again pale in comparison to the positive effect in would have on the game.

-Aramis

THERE ARE 69 LIKES NOW SO DON'T TOUCH IT

You want to make it shallow - bring contracts back.
Corporation contracts are nothing else but ISK-Time wasting on getting notion of who is the best.

The only reason why it calls attention is lack of patience for PC battles and impossibility to organize in existing matters,(tech side also); you want to bring back old stuff unless waiting for improvement of existing or new ones? You want an instant battle, any good reasons?

People, you can't resist massive alliance landholdings in Molden because you don't want and can't organize, now tell me about instant battles.
Is corporation contract easy enough for you to organize people? Well it is. Now remember, hardcore is difficulty in every aspect of something so let it stay hardcore.

Maybe a future thought on PVP like in EVE is what you want? We have it. It calls public matches.

This and a "pushed-to-like" topics make it less reasonable. Find another way and then break through.

*No mental harm intended in this comment - political correctness - hate it...

Liked the original topic though Like #69

CCP need to blue tag this. Anyone want to blow up their twitter accounts with a link?

Sanctuary!!!!
Sanctuary!!!!
Sanctuary!!!!

Hmmm diferent movie...

In Any case Bring Back the Corp Battles!!!

Why no blue tag?

Sometimes it's better to NOT comment and not stir up anything even good news can be better kept quiet.

What about different modes 6vs.6, 8vs.8, 12vs.12, 16vs.16 that way small corps who may only have 10 players on at peek time can train while bringing up their numbers and even big corps can focus on squad build up/ cohesion. Corps can also focus on holding two points without being over whelmed by a 5 point map.

Your going to get it locked.

I see no reason why there shouldn't be a blue post on this.

Wow , I didn't know this was a thing. Thanks for the bimpity bump. I agree with Bane here. This needs to be a thing. Smaller corps need to fight.

CCP could make it an ISK sink if it'll quantify it. Make the two teams pay in and say the payout is 80% to the winners and 20% goes to the New Eden Parks and Recreation Department. It'd be worth it to the winners and excellent experience to the losers. And anyone willing to put up the ISK could toss the gauntlet at whomever they'd like to.

FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN!

People who are in it for the ISK and bragging rights probably.
I don't think it would die completely.

Look at the armor thread it never got a dev response but look at the changes it caused.

It was about half a year until anything came of that though. And that was a simple stat change.

Would be cool if a corp could host a tourney w/ betting and such through Corp Battles perhaps even a mode with that effect.

Only 40 signed? Come on people, make alts and sign it already!

Hey man, I'm sure at least one of your likes is from ladyfolk.

Yeah, you're supposed to be euro, which means all the women should love you

The old system spun up battles that were for the most part empty and this costs money. Now having both sides agree would cut down on it maybe, there is no guarantee you can get or force one side to show up at all.

To quote goonswarm tactics

"Make the other guy lose the will to fight."

In the most trolltastic way would be to issue a bunch of 'friendly matches and just not show up.

BUMP !

I would like to see this. I am pretty sure there was talk of Arena fighting coming back at some point. Like everything now in Dust it is just a matter of when.

In addition, I would also like to see smaller Corps get the opportunity to participate in PC. With smaller Districts and 8v8 matches. Don't get me wrong, I want the bigger Corps to get their bigger battles too, whatever those end up being. I am just saying, EVE Online has a lot of variety for a lot of different organizations, big or small. We should to.

Trust me you're entirely on the wrong way going about this, I am surprised they haven't banned you yet for spamming and cross posting. Its a bad way to get on my radar too. 20 threads on the same subject linking to this one not only does it speak of desperation but a general lack of anything but a bias which for the most part I have come to find out is NOT a community voice at all; instead its the will of one person trying to get his agenda no matter how well educated or uneducated on the subject is pressed through and making him to look like the big hero.

I do recall though that seemingly everyone forgets the largest complaint of the old systems WAS empty matches. We all know that humans are ultimately risk averse creatures at times.

As someone else pointed out all but 8 districts where self locked today. Imagine 200 battle invites going out today and a similar number of fights only had those 8 show up; changing the methods of which people avoid attacks will not change will never change and as long as people have the ability to not log on you're not going to be able to enforce anything. Massive Fee? Transfer isk... Territory loss? Don't have any. One thing you should take note of players is that the larger players are FAR more intelligent than you give them credit for.

The other issue that lead to our current system was burn out. How many big corps dropped entirely off the radar before pc got implemented? quite a few back in those days and lot of these folks don't play; or don't even bother with PC anymore.

As for the feature itself.

Don't expect it to 'come back' as it cannot co-exist with current system. Thus a new system (arena mode as some folks mentioned here) would be needed and quite frankly we're not in a position for that feature yet. Its on the todo list for sure but its lower on the list versus a crap ton of other things that must get done and quite frankly I cannot be bothered to bring this back now I got a new fire to put out.

Learn to read.

Sure, you've participated in that. Maybe you didn't like something.
But there are a hell of a lot of people who haven't, a hell of a lot of whom would very much like to have the ability to do these things.

I am not saying you're a bad person or the intention is bad or the feature wanted is bad.

What I am saying though there are better ways to build up an case, argument, or platform, present it, and make it very hard for ccp to deny its existence of need for it or a change closer to it. Shotgunning it from the hip wont give you the best results, gotta aim for the heart in one strike.

You have to be an absolute paragon of virtue, reason and good posting to get a response from CCP on a feedback thread. There are more responses to troll posts in GD than there are to excellent posts in F&R.

Oh, and I must wonder what it takes to get a dev response on a feedback thread. I keep a certain link in my sig because every time I look at it I remember huge community support being met with silence.
Over, and over, and over.

I don't see the point in biting my hand though.

I explained why old system is flawed and lack of admission on your end, unwillingness to work to move forward (where as you want to go backwards) and the type of folks you're attracting to this thread has instantly disarmed my ability to promote bringing this back in front of ccp; so thanks alot.

I am certainly not advocating the return of consented challenges on your behalf. If anything it be for the T-Dome guys and CPM Kane and CPM Hans is their champion when it comes to things like that.

First off, IWS is absolutely a "real CPM" and one of our workhorses on the team, disrespecting him isn't going to impress me, or CCP, or anyone else for that matter. If you're going to lecture about maturity, make sure you're exuding it yourself. Also - I'm not sure how long you've been around these forums, but while IWS has been blessed with the urge to post prolifically, eloquence has never been his strong suit. This is a classic case of players having an absolute meltdown over a series of extremely rational (and truthful) comments about the issue.

The bottom line is this, no one (not the CPM, not CCP) is putting some foot down and refusing to deliver Corp Battles. This whole approachj of "GRAB THE TORCHES, FIRE UP THE PETITION, LETS HAVE A REVOLUTION" is a huge mistaken waste of effort, just as IWS previously said.

Here are the unadulterated facts, scrubbed of hyperbole and emotion:

1.) CCP does not respond to petitions. They have never been a recognized form of getting a feature or change pushed, They're not about to be, and signing and spamming one carries zero weight in terms of actually accomplishing what you want to accomplish.

2.) There is no need to convince either the CPM or CCP that there is plenty broken with PC, and plenty of merit in having pitched battles between corporation. I've personally brainstormed ideas with devs directly and seen interest in offering this type of gameplay in the future, the lack of them coming out and promising to work on this feature tomorrow does not mean that anyone's saying "corp battles will never happen in the future".

3.) CCP is undergoing some heavy internal examination under the leadership of the new EP, they're not ready to discuss the future of Dust at this time, but they will in the not-too-distant future. No, we cannot give you an ETA.

4.) The long-term planning taking place under the new EP will have a lot to do with what major features like this get worked on and in what order.

5.) CCP is working on dropsuits and weapons and balancing in the meantime, because work must continue, and this is low-hanging fruit they can manage without needing the long-term plans finalized yet. Work on dropsuits and balances does NOT indicate that this is the most important aspect of the game, only one that is manageable independent of the larger picture, which is still being painted.

6.) Pretending that there's some battle here between the will of the players and the will of CCP or the CPM is pointless and harmful, it wastes other community member's energy by leading them into a confrontation that is both unnecessary and only going to lessen your credibility as someone trying to make positive change.

So by all means, continue to berate IWS for sharing the truth, which is that Corp Contracts are not going to magically appear in 1.8 because you made a petition and got a bunch of people angry at a perceived slight. Corp contracts will also not return in their previous form, certainly not tied to Faction Warfare and certainly not without some of the design issues addressed in the process. Will they return in some form, some day? I certainly hope so, as do all of the rest of the CPM. No one's fighting the -idea- of corp contracts, all IWS is trying to explain is that stamping our feet and bumping threads is not going to be the way this gets implemented.

If any of MY statement above is factually untrue (such as devs EXPLICITLY declaring they will not be re-implementing a corp contract system or providing corps freedom to create their own content at districts) , feel free to correct me here. Otherwise, I'm more than happy to dowse the torches and send everyone home from the riot party with the comfortable knowledge that there's no need to obnoxiously bump threads and lead a faux revolution just to "be heard". You've been heard by the CPM, you've been heard by CCP, everyone knows PC is broke and corp contracts were more fun, and all there is left to do is to chill for a bit until the new EP can share with you his plan for the future.

....and THAN you can go grab your pitchforks again if don't hear what you're looking for. Fair enough?

Sorry for being a military hard ass, sometimes notion of boot ramming up someone's posterior to the point they're tasting leather gets the better of me at times.

Customers is a loose term

You shut your dirty mouth! Lol how ya been man? Bout time for you to come back yeah?

Right on! Getting all worldly and that? Same old cranky reign over here. Playing when I can, working a lot, and still wondering why this feature hasn't been implemented. TR just got into PCs about a month ago so I'm trying to get down with more of those, but scheduling. ...