*Grabs Popcorn*

AV was far from "fine" when proto swarms wipe out your 6,000 armor tank in two volleys, something sure as hell isn't right.

It wasn't all fine when HAVs could passive tank huge amounts of damage long ago or pre 1.7 when they couldn't survive a lone swarm launcher.

Passive tanking led to pretty much an either/or situation. Either they could tank enough damage to be useful in which case they could last forever, or they could be destroyed pretty quickly. There might be a middle ground in there, but the line is so thin that it's near impossible to find and easy to fall off.

So CCP decided to try something different. Forget trying to balance passive tank and switch instead to active tanking to create a "Waves of opportunity" model instead. Now vehicles could be both strong enough to be feared and also weak enough to be easily killed, just at different points in time.

Did they get it right on the first pass? Of course not. Did anyone really expect them to?

This is a complete change of direction and will require quite a bit of time and development to balance. CCP will need to release content not yet developed, like webifiers and eWar. They will need to adjust AV, probably multiple times.

The change has sent V/AV balancing back to square one. It would benefit hugely from a test server but we don't have one. That means a greatly drawn out development cycle that is difficult to deal with for a "released" game, but that's what we have.

We can't change any of that, but we can change our own expectations. You will be much less frustrated if you admit to yourself that this isn't final, it isn't nearly final, and in fact is an early beta. It's going to change and it's likely to be a year or more before we find a balance that most can agree with.

Lol no that's why they lowered the swarm launcher's max range, after a certain distance they would turn invisible, not to mention the occasional unnatural corner turn. The whole militia tanks and their modules need to be reworked, as you previously said they take no sp as opposed to 1.6 where only the well fitted and intelligent tankers managed to survive.

Simply nerfing MLT modules will do almost nothing but remove the only consistent counter to experienced vehicle pilots.

As for that last statement, what was the problem with this? Only the well fitted and intelligent tankers should survive. If you are inexperienced and have a poorly fit vehicle, experienced AV should put down like a mad dog when you are piloting.

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