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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
234
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Posted - 2014.01.21 11:14:00 -
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Time 4 me to rage
Everything about tanks and AV is fuked UP
Miljon posts about it; Rail, blasters, AV , swarms yeah the BLODEY lot is ****** UPPPPPPPP
I am sorry guys I just had to ******* rage about this ******* **** ashole crap tankes are noob **** ******* easy dicks on a ***** easy ride
That's about it
War never changes
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
666
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Posted - 2014.01.21 11:16:00 -
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True, what honor there was is gone. Hope the rant helped, tanks have been putting me into a bad mood too. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
1261
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Posted - 2014.01.21 11:18:00 -
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Tanks are making me not want to play.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Jason Pearson
4066
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Posted - 2014.01.21 11:29:00 -
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AV is not making me want to play. Stop hitting me with Forges.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
You're a total git, Jason. - kingbabar
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4353
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Posted - 2014.01.21 11:41:00 -
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Something censored "of tankers".
Based on the context of the OP, I'd guess "sick of tankers", but that wouldn't be censored.
There's another word which starts with "s" and could be inserted there. In that case, the OP is claiming to have been excreted by a tank. Sorry, OP, but I don't think that's how tanks work, even in New Eden. |
straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
164
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Posted - 2014.01.21 11:44:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Something censored "of tankers".
Based on the context of the OP, I'd guess "sick of tankers", but that wouldn't be censored.
There's another word which starts with "s" and could be inserted there. In that case, the OP is claiming to have been excreted by a tank. Sorry, OP, but I don't think that's how tanks work, even in New Eden.
The OP made a typo with 'of' instead of 'off', replace 's' with 'f' and it all makes sense to me. |
Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2014.01.21 11:44:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:AV is not making me want to play. Stop hitting me with Forges.
Any tanker who complains about AV in 1.7 (even if it is sarcasm) is just a troll
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
850
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Posted - 2014.01.21 12:15:00 -
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While I do not like how tanks are currently, not once did we see how av'rs claim they themselves were Op before 1.7, unlike many tankers claim mlt tanks are currently. Feels almost like a double standard
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
2538
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Posted - 2014.01.21 12:43:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:While I do not like how tanks are currently, not once did we see how av'rs claim they themselves were Op before 1.7, unlike many tankers claim mlt tanks are currently. Feels almost like a double standard
I used MD for about 9 months exclusively up to 1.3 when they were silly easy.
I stopped using it because I felt ashamed.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
827
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:26:00 -
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I would like to know what AV would you use to fight off a Madrugar and Gunlogi with Proto Modules ?!
I know my swarms and Lai dais are useless. Can't wait for CCP to return my SP... I'm not a Fat suit, so i don't have a Forge Either. So what weapon should i use?! |
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
195
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:39:00 -
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Forges absolutely devastate tanks. Unless you are a 15mil+ tanker, be very afraid of a forge gun. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
1638
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:49:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:While I do not like how tanks are currently, not once did we see how av'rs claim they themselves were Op before 1.7, unlike many tankers claim mlt tanks are currently. Feels almost like a double standard
I did, even defended the nerf to AV before 1.7 came out.
Horrible mistake, so, you know what, **** tankers.
Every time spkr4thedead or some other idiot blathers on about how this is exactly how this game is supposed to be, and somehow (in the history of warfare) a small group of infantry dedicated to destroying a tank have no chance and should not have a chance of doing it without their own tank, any chance I will ever feel even a tinge of guilt about soloing tanks if the pendulum swings again disappears.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
Forum Warrior lv.1
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3751
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:52:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:AV is not making me want to play. Stop hitting me with Forges. Quit spamming tanks and you'll have yourself a deal.
Next On To-Do List:
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
827
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:55:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:While I do not like how tanks are currently, not once did we see how av'rs claim they themselves were Op before 1.7, unlike many tankers claim mlt tanks are currently. Feels almost like a double standard I did, even defended the nerf to AV before 1.7 came out. Horrible mistake, so, you know what, **** tankers. Every time spkr4thedead or some other idiot blathers on about how this is exactly how this game is supposed to be, and somehow (in the history of warfare) a small group of infantry dedicated to destroying a tank have no chance and should not have a chance of doing it without their own tank, any possibility I will ever feel even a tinge of guilt about soloing tanks if the pendulum swings again disappears.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3751
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:15:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:While I do not like how tanks are currently, not once did we see how av'rs claim they themselves were Op before 1.7, unlike many tankers claim mlt tanks are currently. Feels almost like a double standard This is a joke right?
I do remember stating many times that V vs. AV was broken, but the simple answer was to buff vehicles as opposed to an AV weapon nerf. Most ideas presented by tankers however, were very bad; and they should have felt bad for creating them. (Hence why we are in this situation.Your tunnelvision needs a wider scope.
The moment any pilot talks about double standards is the moment their statement itself becomes a double standard by extension.
Even if, I highly doubt that people are calling for an HAV nerf because of AV. I could almost guarantee that if MLT vehicles weren't as good as their elitist PRO fitted vehicles, and if people used lolAV instead of Railguns, then there would be no "nerf vehicles" opinion from the pilot community.
Not that their opinion actually matters much. CCP has proven time and time again that they will listen to the loudest voices no matter how idiotic, biased, or just plain uneducated said voice is in general. I could probably make a nerf Overdrive Units campaign an have them nerfed if enough people started chanting with me.
Don't act so high and mighty when you did almost nothing but moan about AV in the least constructive ways possible while encouraging buffs that makes AV vs V completely one sided. Making blaring logical fallacies everywhere and flat out refusing to provide even the most basic counter-argument beyond the typical "Ur a scrub. Get gud" comment.
Interpret this as you will. Rage and troll if you want. I couldn't really care less.
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Next On To-Do List:
Particle Cannons
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3751
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:18:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:I would like to know what AV would you use to fight off a Madrugar and Gunlogi with Proto Modules ?!
I know my swarms and Lai dais are useless. Can't wait for CCP to return my SP... I'm not a Fat suit, so i don't have a Forge Either. So what weapon should i use?! Apparently, if you aren't a heavy then you shouldn't be allowed to destroy a tank.
Next On To-Do List:
Particle Cannons
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Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
281
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:NAV HIV wrote:I would like to know what AV would you use to fight off a Madrugar and Gunlogi with Proto Modules ?!
I know my swarms and Lai dais are useless. Can't wait for CCP to return my SP... I'm not a Fat suit, so i don't have a Forge Either. So what weapon should i use?! Apparently, if you aren't a heavy then you shouldn't be allowed to destroy a tank. Not true I took out a Madruga that got caught up on some obstacles with a PLC a week or so ago. The trick is to make sure your prey can't get away
(Yeah I know pics or It didn't happen)
When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck
Logi, Tanker, Heavy
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3751
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:35:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Not true I took out a Madruga that got caught up on some obstacles with a PLC a week or so ago. The trick is to make sure your prey can't get away (Yeah I know pics or It didn't happen) I believe you. One time I took out a Gunnlogi with a KLA because my corpmate's LAV boxed him in.
That's just referencing people like The Attorney General who thinks that it should be okay to invest another 15mil SP into maxing out another PRO suit, and maxing out another weapon tree againjust to be slightly effective at countering a niche.
I'd only say pics or it didn't happen if you said you killed an Assault Dropship with a PLC.
Though I managed to do that once
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Particle Cannons
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Shadow of War88
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
157
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:36:00 -
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AV is weak. When millions of SP get spent into av and swarms dont even scratch militia tanks, then theres a problem O.o
best way to beat a tank is with your own tank....and tank v tank is more like rail > tank at any range.
sad but true |
Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
696
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:50:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:While I do not like how tanks are currently, not once did we see how av'rs claim they themselves were Op before 1.7, unlike many tankers claim mlt tanks are currently. Feels almost like a double standard Because AV wasn't OP; the problem was we had advanced & proto AV vs militia & standard vehicles. With std AV it was difficult to take out std tanks and militia AV could only take out militia tanks, shitfit std tanks, and idiots drivers.
CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
3328
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:55:00 -
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Tanking is not even fun anymore... All you see is freaking rails on the field, no one uses missiles and those blaster tanks are protected by the other 15 rail tanks camping in the redline...
One other thing, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times,
The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game.
Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
435
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Posted - 2014.01.21 15:22:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Time 4 me to rage
Everything about tanks and AV is ****** UP
Miljon posts about it; Rail, blasters, AV , swarms yeah the BLODEY lot is ****** UPPPPPPPP
I am sorry guys I just had to ******* rage about this ******* **** ****** crap tankes are noob **** ******* easy **** on a ***** easy ride
That's about it
This is how I imagine a censored southpark. Lot of *** that make me wonder the **** is being said half the time.
lol
Nuff Said
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
435
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Posted - 2014.01.21 15:24:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Tanking is not even fun anymore... All you see is freaking rails on the field, no one uses missiles and those blaster tanks are protected by the other 15 rail tanks camping in the redline...
One other thing, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times, AV/V has been discussed to death multiple times,
I use missiles, and I murder a lot of tanks with them. Don't do it often, simply because the rail is better in all aspects. I have to reload missiles to kills stuff, things kinda just crumble to my rails in 2 to 3 shots.
Yeah, tanking isn't fun anymore, somas and sicas everywhere. But because of this, infantry is even less fun to play.
Nuff Said
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2186
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Posted - 2014.01.21 15:54:00 -
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We can blame the tankers for spamming, but really it's all CCP. Buff one class AND nerf all of its' counters? That's just ******* dumb. DUMB. I hope you devtards are reading this, because you guys are just ******* idiots. Slow to react and wrong when you do. You guys have no business making a FPS and the gaming community agrees. Developing a game that won't be ready for 10 years after its release has to be the most idiotic development plan ever. But, this is your second attempt at doing it and you still do it wrong. Quit using ****** coders. Start doing some actual QA. Listen to valuable Feedback, not every ******* teenage crybaby shitbag that spams threads from a selfish point of view. You have been offered a wealth of knowledge and experience in the genre but you still listen to these statistical Battleship pirates about how gun game works and force their ineptitude upon us. I hope you are prepared to spin lies about the population when Destiny comes out, because we gave you the chance to keep us. We gave you the opportunity to earn our patronage and you squandered it with poor customer relations, slow reaction, and bad coding. Meanwhile, you have the nerve to start up another project in the middle of tanking this one? Whoever designed your business model should be publicly drawn and quartered while all of you squeamish little bitches stand and watch.
Natalie Portman.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4353
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Posted - 2014.01.21 16:12:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Something censored "of tankers".
Based on the context of the OP, I'd guess "sick of tankers", but that wouldn't be censored.
There's another word which starts with "s" and could be inserted there. In that case, the OP is claiming to have been excreted by a tank. Sorry, OP, but I don't think that's how tanks work, even in New Eden. The OP made a typo with 'of' instead of 'off', replace 's' with 'f' and it all makes sense to me. I like my story better.
And "fhit off" wouldn't be censored either. |
Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
237
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Posted - 2014.01.21 16:16:00 -
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Nice started this just out of pure frustration.
I love this game, but the TANK issue is just **** ***** ****** salty ****
Oh man I need a drink
CCP FFS COME ON
Now where the **** is that drink
War never changes
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
2538
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Posted - 2014.01.21 16:21:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Nice started this just out of pure frustration.
I love this game, but the TANK issue is just **** ***** ****** salty ****
Oh man I need a drink
CCP FFS COME ON
Now where the **** is that drink
I think me and you playing together yesterday got both of our frustrations to new levels. We fed each others anger with new things about tanks/AV to be mad about.
Despite issues in the past with Dust, I've never NOT felt like playing. I don't feel like playing right now, but I will because I'm a slave to my SP
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
830
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:58:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Nice started this just out of pure frustration.
I love this game, but the TANK issue is just **** ***** ****** salty ****
Oh man I need a drink
CCP FFS COME ON
Now where the **** is that drink I think me and you playing together yesterday got both of our frustrations to new levels. We fed each others anger with new things about tanks/AV to be mad about. Despite issues in the past with Dust, I've never NOT felt like playing. I don't feel like playing right now, but I will because I'm a slave to my SP
I need freedom!!!!! I hate the balance between AV vs Tanks. . . I don't mind wasting a few suits trying to take one out... But wasting that much of ISK for nothing in the end is my problem. |
Jake Diesel
BIG BAD W0LVES
63
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:33:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Nice started this just out of pure frustration.
I love this game, but the TANK issue is just **** ***** ****** salty ****
Oh man I need a drink
CCP FFS COME ON
Now where the **** is that drink
Lol Piraten. I missed those days we battled on the same team! We gotta hook up again. Yeah I'm frustrated too with all this tank stuff going on. Feels more like duck hunt. We're the ducks and the hunters are the tanks. They're too cheap and too fast. |
Jake Diesel
BIG BAD W0LVES
64
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:43:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:We can blame the tankers for spamming, but really it's all CCP. Buff one class AND nerf all of its' counters? That's just ******* dumb. DUMB. I hope you devtards are reading this, because you guys are just ******* idiots. Slow to react and wrong when you do. You guys have no business making a FPS and the gaming community agrees. Developing a game that won't be ready for 10 years after its release has to be the most idiotic development plan ever. But, this is your second attempt at doing it and you still do it wrong. Quit using ****** coders. Start doing some actual QA. Listen to valuable Feedback, not every ******* teenage crybaby shitbag that spams threads from a selfish point of view. You have been offered a wealth of knowledge and experience in the genre but you still listen to these statistical Battleship pirates about how gun game works and force their ineptitude upon us. I hope you are prepared to spin lies about the population when Destiny comes out, because we gave you the chance to keep us. We gave you the opportunity to earn our patronage and you squandered it with poor customer relations, slow reaction, and bad coding. Meanwhile, you have the nerve to start up another project in the middle of tanking this one? Whoever designed your business model should be publicly drawn and quartered while all of you squeamish little bitches stand and watch.
A bit extreme, but I do agree. CCP has had a very long time to observe what's wrong with this game and adjust accordingly. But the more I observe these forums, it seems that they're catering more towards the most vocal complainers without hard justification of their complaints.
This last 1.7 update really threw in my assumption that CCP is really clueless to balancing tanks in the game when they decided to make them faster and dirt cheap. I always played around with the idea of "what if" CCP made tanks cost $50,000 ISK for a complete tank fit. This was prior to 1.7. Never did I imagined that CCP would be stupid enough to actually do it. That drew me to the conclusion that they just decided to throw everything they had for the tank balance and see what people would react to. Well we're reacting. And we're not liking. |
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