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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.21 12:17:00 -
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Taking down a player should count as a kill.
But there should be a separate statistic of how many killed opponents actually died.
Your own deaths, meanwhile, should only count on when a clone is wasted. This is about overall team performance after all, right?
Your going down should be tracked, though, because it's still an inconvenience for the team. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:12:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:I like that idea of a 100 pool but capping at 50. Should make things more interesting and better balanced. I'd make the pool lower though, somewhere around 90 so you don't get 2 people with a full 50 WP reward if they split the damage 50/50.
Actually, thinking about it, two people should always get a full reward if they have about equal contributions.
So a 120 pool would make more sense. With that, two players will almost always get their full 50 WP without feeling that someone killstealed them, while groups bigger than that start getting dimishing returns.
This also means that people would be more likely to buddy up and maybe drag a logi along. That would be a half-squad and fit into an LAV.
It would be an incentive to work in groups without half the team bunching up around a single objective. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:39:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:
I don't know if I agree with you on that. Giving 2 killers a full 50 WP reward for doing half the damage for a kill seems wrong to me. Getting to 50 WP should be a special occasion where you feel you did good by doing most of the damage yourself.
With your 120 pool, a single kill could give 2 people 50 WP and a third person 20 WP. That is too much reward for a single kill IMO.
I'm running on the assumption that WP should reward good playing.
Rewarding players for double-teaming enemies without bunching up too much is a good thing in a tactical shooter, imo.
Also, the payout will almost never be 50/50/20. It's more likely to be 50/50/10 or something. Three people will never contributed evenly.
Even two people might very well get 50/35 or something, if one does much more work than the other.
The 120 pool is to even it out slightly to prevent people from hating their buddy for doing one shot more or something. Imagine a 100 pool and you get 45 or something, which means that you did 45% damage. You KNOW that your buddy got 50. You feel cheated, because you contributed only slightly less than him. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:45:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Maybe...
I agree with you about reward. I just think a 50/50/10 or 50/50/20 split is too high.
On this we'll have to disagree I suppose. :)
I would also be okay with 30/30 or something, as long as it's equal.
But if it's so low, people will get sidetracked with hacks or something.
I guess this is a point where other people will have to give input. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:22:00 -
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Guys, removing the reward for knockout and shifting it to termination just means that everyone will double-tap everything forever.
That is *not* good for the gameplay, because you then have to develop OCD to get your kill WP, and makes the nanite injector system pointless, because there will be no one left to revive. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2014.01.21 17:51:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:And what do ya mean by double tap? There are very few weapons in Dust that doing a double tap would do the right damage to terminate a clone in bleedout. Either a single shot or more than 2 shots are needed.
Imagine this:
You only get WP if the enemy actually dies/bleeds out.
You downed an enemy. You are in a firefight. You are a blueberry.
What do you do? Shot at the other guy or continue shooting at the guy who is bleeding out?
Remember, blueberries are the people that assault HAVs with ARs, hack installations just because of the 50WP and revive you in a firefight because it's 60WP. |
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