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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:23:00 -
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I'm gonna start this off with myself. I got out of my tank and tried to be an OP RR try hard in a PC, and I died 7 times. Get back in tank. Kill 8 tanks. Didn't die once....I need to give up on my dreams of being an OP Cal Assault RR guy when the respec comes and just spec all 25 mil into tank skills BC I'm useless, otherwise. Lol
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:25:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm gonna start this off with myself. I got out of my tank and tried to be an OP RR try hard in a PC, and I died 7 times. Get back in tank. Kill 8 tanks. Didn't die once....I need to give up on my dreams of being an OP Cal Assault RR guy when the respec comes and just spec all 25 mil into tank skills BC I'm useless, otherwise. Lol
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1689
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:34:00 -
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Hell I'll put myself on the list I'm good but some of these SCR users would just dominate me in a 1 vs 1 I could always take a few tips from a vet
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
383
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:38:00 -
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I'm much better without I-Suck-Assist but could always use some tips as well.
Don't look him in the eye, WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!!!
I specialize in ridiculousness.
Back off my Incubus.
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
427
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:39:00 -
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Mine kinda sucks lol I never played any CoD games and played BF3 for 6 months as a suicide jeep.
That's why in D514 I'm logi and why I'll become a scout. There is much more to battle than being seen and killing. 
Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2258
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:40:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Hell I'll put myself on the list I'm good but some of these SCR users would just dominate me in a 1 vs 1 I could always take a few tips from a vet
No joke, try adsing less.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1652
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:44:00 -
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meh i just kill everyone with anything.
don't really care what you think of how I kill you but I will kill you, if I think it would be slightly easier to blow you up with and re i'll use an RE.
good...bad....I have all the guns |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2913
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:54:00 -
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After reading through the many fittings threads, I realised that it isn't my gungame that earns me kills, it's my setups.
No.
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1068
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:58:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Hell I'll put myself on the list I'm good but some of these SCR users would just dominate me in a 1 vs 1 I could always take a few tips from a vet
Let's squad up sometime!
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3744
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:59:00 -
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If a Repair Tool counts as a gun, then I have the best gun-game in DUST 514 as a whole.
Next On To-Do List:
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
388
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Posted - 2014.01.21 07:13:00 -
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A Plasma canon counts as a gun so I guess a repair tool does too.
Don't look him in the eye, WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!!!
I specialize in ridiculousness.
Back off my Incubus.
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JL3Eleven
1613
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Posted - 2014.01.21 07:15:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm gonna start this off with myself. I got out of my tank and tried to be an OP RR try hard in a PC, and I died 7 times. Get back in tank. Kill 8 tanks. Didn't die once....I need to give up on my dreams of being an OP Cal Assault RR guy when the respec comes and just spec all 25 mil into tank skills BC I'm useless, otherwise. Lol
Umm. RR is not a CQC weapon btw.
Supercorp: A corporation with the ability to shape and control events and project power on a New Eden-wide scale.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3745
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Posted - 2014.01.21 07:18:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:
Umm. RR is not a CQC weapon btw.
The Assault Rail Rifle is.
Don't even get me started about Assault Combat Rifles.
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HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
490
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Posted - 2014.01.21 07:21:00 -
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Only players under 12 or with negative kdr should get to use tanks.
You are welcome for my leadership
*Proven Aggressive Type
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Cooper Eudaemon
DUST University
Ivy League
117
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Posted - 2014.01.21 07:34:00 -
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I am constantly trying to figure out why I suck so hard, but there are too many damn variables.
Is it sensitivity settings?
My fittings?
My controller?
Lag/lag compensation?
Is it the protostompers?
Or am I just moving/aiming poorly?
I need a break from Dust! I'll just go hop on the forums...
I need a break from the forums! I'll just go hop on Dust...
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1652
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Posted - 2014.01.21 07:45:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:After reading through the many fittings threads, I realised that it isn't my gungame that earns me kills, it's my setups.
So very much this.
I read about various fittings here and I can't believe the ****** combos People come up With.
http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
2814
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Posted - 2014.01.21 07:58:00 -
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I don't believe Dust has legitimate gun game. It needs more consistent motion acceleration/deceleration on player movement, as well as a more consistently smooth frame rate in order to even make claims that anyone is legitimately tracking anything via reaction.
I'd say right now people have what I would call MOVEMENT GAME, not GUN GAME.
Movement techniques can be used and exploited regardless of the terrible frame rate. If anything, it makes them more effective because the ****** frame rate makes movements that much harder to read. Reg is a great example of someone who does this incredibly well.
Tracking and aiming however, I can't say. I seem to consistently beat other slow armor tanking suits in 1v1s, so on the quick draw I believe I'm fairly decent. The faster suits I lose quite often to though.
I'm going min assault in the next build to see if this makes as much of a difference as I think it does. |
Regnier Feros
Immortal Guides
11
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Posted - 2014.01.21 08:03:00 -
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use weaponry that has a area of effect(mass driver,plasma cannon,remote explosives,forge gun)
Minmatar Women Do It Better
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1689
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Posted - 2014.01.21 08:11:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Hell I'll put myself on the list I'm good but some of these SCR users would just dominate me in a 1 vs 1 I could always take a few tips from a vet No joke, try adsing less.
I'm pretty sure adsing isn't a word....
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1515
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Posted - 2014.01.21 08:37:00 -
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I have terrible gun game... aweful... so i skilled into HMG's and FG... now im asked to fight in PC matches for SVER and allies.
Gun game isnt everything, fight smart and carry a bigger gun
The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
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Kal Kronos
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
164
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Posted - 2014.01.21 08:44:00 -
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Have bad gun game? Throw some damage mods on one of these weapons, in order SCR>CR>RR>AR. Also a med frame with a kin cat and cardiac so you can game the frame rate, im surprised people haven't picked up on this yet...
What's not to love about the scrambler rifle, the thing is a precision weapon and at the same time a shotgun.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:07:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:Have bad gun game? Throw some damage mods on one of these weapons, in order SCR>CR>RR>AR. Also a med frame with a kin cat and cardiac so you can game the frame rate, im surprised people haven't picked up on this yet...
Eww kincats on A medframe. |
Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1475
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:11:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm gonna start this off with myself. I got out of my tank and tried to be an OP RR try hard in a PC, and I died 7 times. Get back in tank. Kill 8 tanks. Didn't die once....I need to give up on my dreams of being an OP Cal Assault RR guy when the respec comes and just spec all 25 mil into tank skills BC I'm useless, otherwise. Lol
The thing kinda is, Bad Gungame players gravitate towards using Vehicles to make up for their lack of reaction times, aiming and awareness and all are subject to tunnel vision, ie: they only see their current target until it is either dead or they are. (ofcourse there are always exceptions)
Most are so bad they don't even see or react to you until you are next to them. (I once played an entire game on a ridge, right next to my buddy the Red Tank shooting his friends in the back, yeah some are THAT blind)
So it really is a no brainer to think that they won't see your tank either until it too late.
Congratz, amongst the Blind, One Eye is King they say, this considering Gungame players have at least 3 eyes and a spider sense :p
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Regnier Feros
Immortal Guides
11
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:18:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:Have bad gun game? Throw some damage mods on one of these weapons, in order SCR>CR>RR>AR. Also a med frame with a kin cat and cardiac so you can game the frame rate, im surprised people haven't picked up on this yet...
what do you mean by (game the frame rate)?
Minmatar Women Do It Better
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:22:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm gonna start this off with myself. I got out of my tank and tried to be an OP RR try hard in a PC, and I died 7 times. Get back in tank. Kill 8 tanks. Didn't die once....I need to give up on my dreams of being an OP Cal Assault RR guy when the respec comes and just spec all 25 mil into tank skills BC I'm useless, otherwise. Lol The thing kinda is, Bad Gungame players gravitate towards using Vehicles to make up for their lack of reaction times, aiming and awareness and all are subject to tunnel vision, ie: they only see their current target until it is either dead or they are. (ofcourse there are always exceptions) Most are so bad they don't even see or react to you until you are next to them. (I once played an entire game on a ridge, right next to my buddy the Red Tank shooting his friends in the back, yeah some are THAT blind) So it really is a no brainer to think that they won't see your tank either until it too late. Congratz, amongst the Blind, One Eye is King they say, this considering Gungame players have at least 3 eyes and a spider sense :p
My proto senses are tingling! |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
747
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:30:00 -
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Yesterday an enemy team were all proto Callogi's with Kal RR's. I was in my modest Adv minlogi fitted for support and my AS-90 and throughout the round I kept finding these guy's and outgunning them, often 2 at a time.
Even had a few humiliating CQC moments (both guns are terrible in this area, I don't care what you say, they simply are. It was a mess but I still won  )
One poor sod only went 7/17 at the end of the match
Another switched to a Boundless CR and I still kicked his ass.
Some ppl really need to learn how to aim and not rely on proto to compensate for sucking
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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StoneSmasher Drugga
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
93
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:36:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Only players under 12 or with negative kdr should get to use tanks.
Negative kdr does not exist. I think you mean less than one.
There is no evil greater than hyperbole.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1260
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:37:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Hell I'll put myself on the list I'm good but some of these SCR users would just dominate me in a 1 vs 1 I could always take a few tips from a vet No joke, try adsing less. I'm pretty sure adsing isn't a word....
ADSing.
It is, he just mis-capitalised.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
337
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:38:00 -
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Think about the dimensiona of the battlefield, we got all ranges from cqc to long range.
I'm not that good in cqc, cant strafe as fas s cal or minnis, but you better don't try to engage me on long to close range...
another one bites the Dust...
Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:46:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Yesterday an enemy team were all proto Callogi's with Kal RR's. I was in my modest Adv minlogi fitted for support and my AS-90 and throughout the round I kept finding these guy's and outgunning them, often 2 at a time. Even had a few humiliating CQC moments (both guns are terrible in this area, I don't care what you say, they simply are. It was a mess but I still won ) One poor sod only went 7/17 at the end of the match Another switched to a Boundless CR and I still kicked his ass. Some ppl really need to learn how to aim and not rely on proto to compensate for sucking
My ****** senses were going on and off that match, I had the same thing exept ammar |
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
102
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:48:00 -
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Anyone who uses KB/M is by default going to have problems in CQC so I count myself in the "gun game leaves a lot to be desired crowd" |
Rusty Shallows
850
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:52:00 -
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You know how on that third day an Airsoft game things are dragging. Late nights, drinking, and sleeping on the ground wears a guy down. On that Sunday morning us old vets fight the front and we let the elite teenagers to do the rapid flanking or other assaults that require swift movements.
It's nice having others with complimentary skills.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
Forums > Game
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
155
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:54:00 -
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I like to think my gun game is at least above average. I use advance ARs on standard frames and still have an overall kdr of like .8 or something. Not stellar, but considering I only started at Christmas, don't run with super squads, and have only started playing during 1.7, so I like to think if my Ar was balanced with the other rifles, and there was no tank spam, I would have a 1 kdr at least.
The main issue is that you can't approach the ground game like other fps games. Sure you have regenerating shields, but I they might as well be swiss cheese and armor is hut or miss on betting repaired without Luigi support.
My tips:
1. Get to cover. A lot of the time I see people die (including myself) because they see an enemy stop in the open and open fire. Problem is, rasberrries rarely travel alone, and even if they are they may have better range, or better gun game as you call it. If yousee an enemy and your oopen get to cover, then fire. If your running and start getting shot, don't stop and spin in a circle trying to find them, get to cover. By the time you find them, your probably dead.
2. Keep moving, always. Between snipers, rail gun tanks, scouts, and assault drop ships, you never know who, what, when, or where from, someone is trying to get a shot on you.
3. Scan your surroundings. Whenever your moving always be sue o randomly check all your surroundings. Even if you don't see someone your cross hairs may ping them and mark them on your mini map for a split second. Unlike in a vehicle, the redberry you don't see, is the one that will kill you.
4. Run ambush. It will such, it will be grueling, it will make you want to rage quit, but nothing improves your gungame more then trying to run solo in ambush. Your reaction times, awareness, and understanding of your weapon will improve drasticly. There is no common fight location, your blueberries can prove even more useless then in Dom and skirm, and the only thing you got is your grit, and the six shooter on your hip.
5. Get use to switching to your side arm. Since I got more use to hot switching my solo/duel game has gotten astonamicly better, and in fire fights it gives you a few seconds extra time to lay down suppression fire while you duck back behind cover to reload.
6. Watch your shields. Unless you have logi support, your goal is to NOT tank with your armor. That's there because you need a buffer when your shields go down. Relying on it to keep you alive during a firefight may let you get 1 or 2 kills, but ukess your being actively repaired, your going to die. Its far more effective to get behind cover when your shields o down then it is to keep firing and hope your armor holds out long enough.
7. Don't chase kills. Most of my own deaths come from the fact that I want the kill. I ignore the tactile situation and charge after an enemy I have almost killed. I usually get the kill, but I also die immediately after, and chances are if I chased them into a pack if either red berries, their getting picked back up, I won't be.
8. Suppressing fire is your god. If your moving across open ground or cover to cover, weather it to be to get to a safer location, or get a better angle/range on the enemy, hip fire at their little red berry heads while you move. You won't kill em, but few players willtake the time to see if the pperson shooting at them is a threat, they will just get their heads down. (Thou sometime it is better to just be line for the next piece of cover}
Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
827
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:36:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm gonna start this off with myself. I got out of my tank and tried to be an OP RR try hard in a PC, and I died 7 times. Get back in tank. Kill 8 tanks. Didn't die once....I need to give up on my dreams of being an OP Cal Assault RR guy when the respec comes and just spec all 25 mil into tank skills BC I'm useless, otherwise. Lol
So Cal Assault ck0 is an OP suit now ?! I rolled over laughing when i read that. For a second there i thought the VK1 is back. But Assault ck0 is a very weak suit. Compared to other Assault suit. The gk0 and ak0 kicks the **** out of ck0 suit all day. Not gonna start on the lolLogi suits.
RR is OP too ?! What would you call the Combat Rifle then ?! |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3749
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:38:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:
I'm pretty sure adsing isn't a word....
ADSing refers to the use of ADS
ADS means Aim Down Sights, which is the term used for when you zoom in using your weapon.
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