DUST Search - OCC role play ground rules

Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:

Something to add:

1.) Avoid the use of Deus ex machina; it is generally considered to be both undesirable and often implies a lack of creativity on the part of the author. It can also break the suspension of disbelief.

2.) If a character uses an item such as, say, a coffee spoon; it must have been established that either they brought this item with them into the scenario, or it was part of the environment they are in (exceptions to the latter can be made in some cases).

In short: Your character cannot magically summon coffee spoons (or any other item for that matter) out of thin air.

2.) Subsection b) Also, magic doesn't exist in New Eden; and I have seen people say otherwise:

Sir Ravenwing wrote:

If you are to get rid of the engraving you may as well ask me to and I'm not born of gallente blood
*sighs* raven mummers something and calmly erases the engravings
Do not think for a minute that I do not know what you are doing galm
Raven sits and starts saying something in a strange language with his eyes closed
And receiving those daggers is considered an honor galm as so with my sword which I will keep
May peace be of this place, and it be sheilded from mindless bloodshed
oh you wasn't supposed to hear that

This rule further enforces the fact that one cannot magically summon coffee spoons.

3.) Avoid "Metagaming"; which (in the context of RP) is defined as "Using information in your possession that your character does not in order to affect the outcome of a situation; such as knowing how to stir coffee with a spoon; despite your character not even knowing what coffee is.

He he he... Coffee spoons Blink

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steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2170	Posted - 2014.01.20 22:49:00 - [1] - Quote Ok iv been watching a story style threads progress and i really do think its AWSOME some of stuff thats starting to happen now bbbuuuuttt their is bit of clash between new people jumping into it the first time vs the old guys who just want to get on with it and are getting frustrated, so iv come up with these ground rules to help anyone New to Rping not **** everyone off and help stop threads descending into chaos. A. never ever take control of someone else character unless its been agreed what the out come will be. That includes having him read something you hand. the limit is going "you offer steadyhand a note" its then my choice if I want to take it or ignore you B. follow the thread of the story don't make it all about how awesome your character is, you can have your own moments in it see my small posts dotted about. but walking around like your gods gift to everything is not only hard to work with its boring and anoyyes the crap out of anyone trying to do character development or progress a story New Eden is all about overcoming challenges so make sure your character gets challenged. C. NO GOD TIMEING EVER, what this means is your character has flaws, he cant do things outside of normally clone ability, you can be skilled but you need a reason to that skilled. The safest way to do this is use your ingame skill as a rough guide. you have to be believable for example iv been playing this game well over two years now and i use my own ingame ability to justify that steadyhand is one of the most dangerous mercs you will ever encounter however i still have my limits i cant take on 6 mercs by myself and expect to come out unscathed. D. Do you homework know the lore know the backstory if you dont have the time then simply make a simple character who is learning the world of new Eden. for example you walk up to True and go "i follow X sub cult of the faith", True (sorry man you make a good example :P) is gunna shoot you in the face repeatedly and then make sure your clone wakes up in a prison. your homework assignment is too work out why. E. last basic rule DON'T DERAIL A THREAD its dam hard to find GMs who put this much effort in simply put if it happens again I will get the other old times to flag it logibro as disruptive behaviour in order for him to remove your post and get the thread back on track. does anyone else have anything to add I really want to get a few story threads going the discussions are awsome but its though actions legends are made "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Hawk-eye Occultus Omega Elite Mercs INC. 10	Posted - 2014.01.20 23:43:00 - [2] - Quote Something to add: 1.) Avoid the use of Deus ex machina; it is generally considered to be both undesirable and often implies a lack of creativity on the part of the author. It can also break the suspension of disbelief. 2.) If a character uses an item such as, say, a coffee spoon; it must have been established that either they brought this item with them into the scenario, or it was part of the environment they are in (exceptions to the latter can be made in some cases). In short: Your character cannot magically summon coffee spoons (or any other item for that matter) out of thin air. 2.) Subsection b) Also, magic doesn't exist in New Eden; and I have seen people say otherwise: Sir Ravenwing wrote: If you are to get rid of the engraving you may as well ask me to and I'm not born of gallente blood sighs raven mummers something and calmly erases the engravings Do not think for a minute that I do not know what you are doing galm Raven sits and starts saying something in a strange language with his eyes closed And receiving those daggers is considered an honor galm as so with my sword which I will keep May peace be of this place, and it be sheilded from mindless bloodshed oh you wasn't supposed to hear that This rule further enforces the fact that one cannot magically summon coffee spoons. 3.) Avoid "Metagaming"; which (in the context of RP) is defined as "Using information in your possession that your character does not in order to affect the outcome of a situation; such as knowing how to stir coffee with a spoon; despite your character not even knowing what coffee is. He he he... Coffee spoons Intelligence without ambition; is a bird without wings...
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8152	Posted - 2014.01.20 23:55:00 - [3] - Quote Re-iterating on the topic of x Amarr sub-religion: Please stop. I put my head in my hands every time I see one of these. Level 8 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 882	Posted - 2014.01.21 00:05:00 - [4] - Quote F/4. Don't post OOC threads. Ever. It doesn't matter how important of a thing you want to convey, you don't post an OOC thread in the IGS under any circumstances when you're supposed to keep OOC to a minimum in the first place. Using PMs or DUST 514 Fiction is way more preferable. And you really should read DUST 514 fiction more often, because I've already made a thread about this there. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 14th
sir ravenwing BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 30	Posted - 2014.01.21 00:56:00 - [5] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Something to add: 1.) Avoid the use of Deus ex machina; it is generally considered to be both undesirable and often implies a lack of creativity on the part of the author. It can also break the suspension of disbelief. 2.) If a character uses an item such as, say, a coffee spoon; it must have been established that either they brought this item with them into the scenario, or it was part of the environment they are in (exceptions to the latter can be made in some cases). In short: Your character cannot magically summon coffee spoons (or any other item for that matter) out of thin air. 2.) Subsection b) Also, magic doesn't exist in New Eden; and I have seen people say otherwise: Sir Ravenwing wrote: If you are to get rid of the engraving you may as well ask me to and I'm not born of gallente blood sighs raven mummers something and calmly erases the engravings Do not think for a minute that I do not know what you are doing galm Raven sits and starts saying something in a strange language with his eyes closed And receiving those daggers is considered an honor galm as so with my sword which I will keep May peace be of this place, and it be sheilded from mindless bloodshed oh you wasn't supposed to hear that This rule further enforces the fact that one cannot magically summon coffee spoons. 3.) Avoid "Metagaming"; which (in the context of RP) is defined as "Using information in your possession that your character does not in order to affect the outcome of a situation; such as knowing how to stir coffee with a spoon; despite your character not even knowing what coffee is. He he he... Coffee spoons Let it go I was tired and messed up my grammer I do not fear my enemies, I fear the damn blueberries
sir ravenwing BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 30	Posted - 2014.01.21 02:05:00 - [6] - Quote Correction I messed up my wording I do not fear my enemies, I fear the damn blueberries
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3423	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:23:00 - [7] - Quote I remember the first few threads I derailed... Good times My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2177	Posted - 2014.01.22 00:12:00 - [8] - Quote ahha i see logibro moved this >.< i make a request new people to Rp are simply not going to look here for how to RP stuff so can be put our heads together and make a list so we can get it sticked. im frankly shocked at how bloody diffcult it is just to get a newb guide to RP going on this forum iv never had this much trouble before most companies let the ground rules post slip past the OCC. so thanks for undermining the goal of what im trying to achieve here :( "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6051	Posted - 2014.01.22 00:16:00 - [9] - Quote I would also suggest not to make outlandish claims in regards to things. Being people from places you most certainly are not from. That's always a way to get me to openly scorn you and oppose you in all things. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 206	Posted - 2014.01.22 00:51:00 - [10] - Quote Also, knowing your lore is always a plus when trying to RP, or write any sort of story. (To that end, I remind people I have a thread specifically for lore questions) Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.

Hawk-eye Occultus Omega Elite Mercs INC. 12	Posted - 2014.01.22 01:15:00 - [11] - Quote True Adimance wrote: would also suggest not to make outlandish claims in regards to things. Being people from places you most certainly are not from. That's always a way to get me to openly scorn you and oppose you in all things. Also, on that general theme; remember this: Your uncle is not the leader of the Black Eagles, you are not best friends with the Amarr empress, and you most likely don't personally know any of the senior staff in the Gallente fleet. You don't have a brother who served for 10 years as the personal bodyguard of the Caldari boardroom and somehow has contacts in the Jove empire. In short; the people you know can only be so much. Intelligence without ambition; is a bird without wings...
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6054	Posted - 2014.01.22 01:34:00 - [12] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: True Adimance wrote: would also suggest not to make outlandish claims in regards to things. Being people from places you most certainly are not from. That's always a way to get me to openly scorn you and oppose you in all things. Also, on that general theme; remember this: Your uncle is not the leader of the Black Eagles, you are not best friends with the Amarr empress, and you most likely don't personally know any of the senior staff in the Gallente fleet. You don't have a brother who served for 10 years as the personal bodyguard of the Caldari boardroom and somehow has contacts in the Jove empire. In short; the people you know can only be so much. Yup that's my point. For Example- Kador has "met" a member of the Sarum family, which one I wont say as the story is not fleshed out enough..... in the sense that he once saw her as one of 6000 loyal soldiers whom were being addressed by a Regimental Officer. That doesn't mean Kador is special. He is most certainly not. He has not titles of nobility, no contacts, no wealth, no power. He is human, and he is made special because of what I have him do as a human. Besides this the only nobles Kador has ever met are the lesser ones who compose the leadership caste of fleets in PIE Inc. He also is not associated with any citable in game event so that my cannon remains small scale and undeniable as one of the many thousands of battles in New Eden. He is not some character from another novel I want to tack on to and as such no lore was twisted to manipulate him back from the grave. Etc. The Point is people are not special in New Eden. They are just normal humans from where ever, who make themselves special because of what they do. You don't need flashy or unrealistic character draws to make your character interesting. Infact the more interesting ones are the ones that seem like everyday people, who have more to them the more you get to know them. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
sir ravenwing BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 31	Posted - 2014.01.22 01:45:00 - [13] - Quote On that thought, don't be who you can't be for intance your not from the jove empire, you can be from null-sec Now Before the "tweak" raven was from null-sec now it's truama that is present in raven's personality I do not fear my enemies, I fear the damn blueberries
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2178	Posted - 2014.01.22 08:01:00 - [14] - Quote If u guys have any useful links post them here and i will add them to the OP :-). "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Hawk-eye Occultus Omega Elite Mercs INC. 13	Posted - 2014.01.22 11:11:00 - [15] - Quote Some Wikipedia links to various relevant things: Deus ex machina - Very unlikely thing that instantly solves all your problems. Red Herring - Designed to distract the reader from the main plot, or to lead them to false conclusions. Chekhov's Gun - A seemingly unimportant something (Such as a coffee spoon or some random fact) that, although insignificant at the time (it may only be briefly mentioned); will become a major plot device later. Unreliable Narrator - When the story teller deliberately misleads the reader by hiding facts, introducing bias, and perhaps even lying to the reader. Often in larger woks, the narrator may contradict themselves. And while I'm here; have a role-play guide. Intelligence without ambition; is a bird without wings...


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