DUST Search - An Academy Fix

Joel II X wrote:

cranium79 wrote:

the cap for the academy should be 25,000 WP. after that you should have the OPTION of joining regular matches, up until you reach 50,000 WP. then you are out of the academy completely. back in the day, the cap was like 10,000 WP or something like that.

the problem is, people with alts complained that things were taking too long. i say that the true noobs need this high of a WP cap to exit the academy. by then, they should have at least some experience. to those who create alts, you created the alt knowing what needs to be done. reach your 25K and be done with it. it should be easier to hit that mark since you know what you are doing.

it's kind of funny though. i entered this game during closed beta, when there was no academy and everyone was getting 4X sp and isk. everywhere i looked, it was full of proto-gear (the sagaris and surya) and missle turrets were OP. i had like a 0.25 KDR for the first month... lol. didn't bother me, and after a couple of full respecs... i was doing ok.

This! I love this idea!

And I've never had a respec. Just the vehicle one.


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cranium79 ZionTCD Public Disorder. 88	Posted - 2014.01.20 14:28:00 - [1] - Quote the cap for the academy should be 25,000 WP. after that you should have the OPTION of joining regular matches, up until you reach 50,000 WP. then you are out of the academy completely. back in the day, the cap was like 10,000 WP or something like that. the problem is, people with alts complained that things were taking too long. i say that the true noobs need this high of a WP cap to exit the academy. by then, they should have at least some experience. to those who create alts, you created the alt knowing what needs to be done. reach your 25K and be done with it. it should be easier to hit that mark since you know what you are doing. it's kind of funny though. i entered this game during closed beta, when there was no academy and everyone was getting 4X sp and isk. everywhere i looked, it was full of proto-gear (the sagaris and such) and missle turrets were OP. i had like a 0.25 KDR for the first month... lol. didn't bother me, and after a couple of full respecs... i was doing ok.
cranium79 ZionTCD Public Disorder. 89	Posted - 2014.01.20 21:44:00 - [2] - Quote even if ccp is concerned about academy farming, the point is, noobs will not be up against proto gear, or possibly even advanced gear. it would be militia and standard gear mostly. skill is skill, and knowing the game is knowing the game. at least they will have a chance against similar gear instead of no chance against advanced and proto gear with ingame knowledge. as i've said above, the vets creating alts will tear through the academy anyway. right now, they can, in 1 game, get the 1200 WP necessary to get out of the academy anyway. unless, ccp does some kind of "vets only" academy, or allows vets to bypass the academy all together. i don't know if this is possible, or, it might be by choice... the vet has to select the "vet" academy over the noob academy type thing. i'm sure more vets would choose the vet academy, but you will still have some sadists that enjoy killing noobs. who knows.
cranium79 ZionTCD Public Disorder. 90	Posted - 2014.01.20 23:09:00 - [3] - Quote Joel II X wrote: cranium79 wrote: the cap for the academy should be 25,000 WP. after that you should have the OPTION of joining regular matches, up until you reach 50,000 WP. then you are out of the academy completely. back in the day, the cap was like 10,000 WP or something like that. the problem is, people with alts complained that things were taking too long. i say that the true noobs need this high of a WP cap to exit the academy. by then, they should have at least some experience. to those who create alts, you created the alt knowing what needs to be done. reach your 25K and be done with it. it should be easier to hit that mark since you know what you are doing. it's kind of funny though. i entered this game during closed beta, when there was no academy and everyone was getting 4X sp and isk. everywhere i looked, it was full of proto-gear (the sagaris and surya) and missle turrets were OP. i had like a 0.25 KDR for the first month... lol. didn't bother me, and after a couple of full respecs... i was doing ok. This! I love this idea! And I've never had a respec. Just the vehicle one. my respec came because the new build was released. at that time everyone got a respec. then we were all on an even playing field, at least gear wise. back when i joined, you could only play on weekends (2 days a week). the server was down the other 5. we got 4x sp and isk. dropships would crush your head every time you spawned and we only had 1 suit type per frame (1 heavy, 1 scout, 1 assault, 1 logi). then we got A and B versions of some suits (the assault A&B ended up being the cal and gal versions.). i think i've been full respec'd like 4-5 times since i've joined. i did not take any of the optional repecs since the last full respec. i think that was chromosome, or one right after that, if i remember correctly.
cranium79 ZionTCD Public Disorder. 90	Posted - 2014.01.20 23:19:00 - [4] - Quote Waiyu Ren wrote: What is the cap currently, 1200? 1500? In my very first game, i went 1v1 with another new guy, with something like 2/4 and 300 wp. After 2 similar games i was kicked to PUB. A month later i built an alt because i'd completely stuffed up my SP as i didn't know what i was doing.... First (and only) match: 15/5 1600wp, before being kicked back into PUB. I'd gotten better obviously, but as a result i was looking at starting fresh slightly weaker stat-wise. Pointless story, i scrapped the alt and went back to my original character, bad sp allocation and all. I would kind of like the cap to be SP based personally, rather than WP. this is what i'm talking about. when i first started, i messed up my sp allocation horribly. i didn't know what i was doing. thankfully, there were the full respecs that occurred during the EARLY CLOSED BETA days. another idea that just occurred to me with this post is, after the 50K WP that kick you out of the academy completely, you should get all of your sp unallocated so you can undo all of your mistakes (this is a training program after all). you should get stuck with the gear you bought though. ISK comes pretty easy, and later on you can sell it when the open market comes. the sp based system wouldn't work because of passive and augmentations. WP are only earned when you kill, hack, supply, spawn support, or heal. this requires in game play that gives you experience.