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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:35:00 -
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I use it and it is stupid
If you cancel the reload animation then your weapon shouldn't be reloaded .. nonsense like this is why I don't play COD .. introduce jamming for all weapons so if you try to cancel the reload animation the weapon jams and forces you to have to go through the reload animation ..
Don't care if X Y Z game has it or how much of the community uses it, this is Dust .. it's not supposed to be your run of the mill shooter
Why have reload skills if animation cancelling is a viable tactic .. if I was planning on being a commando I'd be asking for a different suit bonus
Just remove reloading altogether and have no animation .. problem solved xD |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
85
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:36:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:I use it and it is stupid
If you cancel the reload animation then your weapon shouldn't be reloaded .. nonsense like this is why I don't play COD .. introduce jamming for all weapons so if you try to cancel the reload animation the weapon jams and forces you to have to go through the reload animation ..
Don't care if X Y Z game has it or how much of the community uses it, this is Dust .. it's not supposed to be your run of the mill shooter
Why have reload skills if animation cancelling is a viable tactic .. if I was planning on being a commando I'd be asking for a different suit bonus
Just remove reloading altogether and have no animation .. problem solved xD
Only problem is if you accidentally cancel
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
4601
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:37:00 -
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No, anyone can use it, if its removed we go back to Chromosone reloading where your gun wouldn't reload at all even though the animation was finished.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2642
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:39:00 -
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Oh god no.
Like a virus, stupidity is born with one post. And then it spreads...like wildfires.
You can thank that one merc who started this crap for bringing about complaint that is minor and utterly idiotic to complain about.
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:41:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:No, anyone can use it, if its removed we go back to Chromosone reloading where your gun wouldn't reload at all even though the animation was finished.
I did say to just remove reloading altogether .. infinite ammo clips for all .. no need for reload cancelling if there is no reload function .. solves everyones problems
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:43:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Oh god no.
Like a virus, stupidity is born with one post. And then it spreads...like wildfires.
You can thank that one merc who started this crap for bringing about complaint that is minor and utterly idiotic to complain about.
He had a point
Just remove the reload feature altogether .. if your going to allow a glitch to cancel the reload animation why bother having it in the first place ?? Answer that and maybe I'll listen to what you have to say |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2642
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:44:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:No, anyone can use it, if its removed we go back to Chromosone reloading where your gun wouldn't reload at all even though the animation was finished. I did say to just remove reloading altogether .. infinite ammo clips for all .. no need for reload cancelling if there is no reload function .. solves everyones problems
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2642
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:46:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh god no.
Like a virus, stupidity is born with one post. And then it spreads...like wildfires.
You can thank that one merc who started this crap for bringing about complaint that is minor and utterly idiotic to complain about. He had a point Just remove the reload feature altogether .. if your going to allow a glitch to cancel the reload animation why bother having it in the first place ?? Answer that and maybe I'll listen to what you have to say
He doesn't have a point. Maybe you two are just kids. But its a situation that is very small and doesn't prohibit fair gameplay. Sprint while reloading and cancelling has been in FPS titles for a long time. Maybe your first FPS game was Halo and you played nothing else.
It's stupid to talk about and its really of no one concerns except for people who like to create drama out of nothing.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:59:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh god no.
Like a virus, stupidity is born with one post. And then it spreads...like wildfires.
You can thank that one merc who started this crap for bringing about complaint that is minor and utterly idiotic to complain about. He had a point Just remove the reload feature altogether .. if your going to allow a glitch to cancel the reload animation why bother having it in the first place ?? Answer that and maybe I'll listen to what you have to say He doesn't have a point. Maybe you two are just kids. But its a situation that is very small and doesn't prohibit fair gameplay. Sprint while reloading and cancelling has been in FPS titles for a long time. Maybe your first FPS game was Halo and you played nothing else. It's stupid to talk about and its really of no one concerns except for people who like to create drama out of nothing.
Modded Pads, Wallhacks and Auto Aim are in many other FPS titles too .. should we add them to Dust as well ?
Reload animation cancelling is an idiotic feature that breaks immersion .. not 'balance/gameplay' .. IMMERSION ..
Call me whatever you like, name calling is the last resort of a failed argument |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2646
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:07:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh god no.
Like a virus, stupidity is born with one post. And then it spreads...like wildfires.
You can thank that one merc who started this crap for bringing about complaint that is minor and utterly idiotic to complain about. He had a point Just remove the reload feature altogether .. if your going to allow a glitch to cancel the reload animation why bother having it in the first place ?? Answer that and maybe I'll listen to what you have to say He doesn't have a point. Maybe you two are just kids. But its a situation that is very small and doesn't prohibit fair gameplay. Sprint while reloading and cancelling has been in FPS titles for a long time. Maybe your first FPS game was Halo and you played nothing else. It's stupid to talk about and its really of no one concerns except for people who like to create drama out of nothing. Modded Pads, Wallhacks and Auto Aim are in many other FPS titles too .. should we add them to Dust as well ? Reload animation cancelling is an idiotic feature that breaks immersion .. not 'balance/gameplay' .. IMMERSION .. Call me whatever you like, name calling is the last resort of a failed argument
LOL what exactly did I call you? Take your time...read the posts
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:21:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh god no.
Like a virus, stupidity is born with one post. And then it spreads...like wildfires.
You can thank that one merc who started this crap for bringing about complaint that is minor and utterly idiotic to complain about. He had a point Just remove the reload feature altogether .. if your going to allow a glitch to cancel the reload animation why bother having it in the first place ?? Answer that and maybe I'll listen to what you have to say He doesn't have a point. Maybe you two are just kids. But its a situation that is very small and doesn't prohibit fair gameplay. Sprint while reloading and cancelling has been in FPS titles for a long time. Maybe your first FPS game was Halo and you played nothing else. It's stupid to talk about and its really of no one concerns except for people who like to create drama out of nothing. Modded Pads, Wallhacks and Auto Aim are in many other FPS titles too .. should we add them to Dust as well ? Reload animation cancelling is an idiotic feature that breaks immersion .. not 'balance/gameplay' .. IMMERSION .. Call me whatever you like, name calling is the last resort of a failed argument LOL what exactly did I call you? Take your time...read the posts
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2648
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:26:00 -
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Man, HTFU and do some push ups. Calling you a kid isn't name calling. Cause I know only kids who argue about meaningless crap. That's not a diss or name calling. That's life. An adult isn't going to be complaining about a reload sprint cancel...get real.
Yes, maybe you just played Halo and that's it. It's called an assumption. As long as I have been playing video games and FPS titles, reload sprint cancel has been a part of the game. Some have it and some don't, but its something that many people have used and seen before. Others who are seasoned in video games has said the exact same thing in the other thread.
It's stupid, not you stupid...it's stupid!!
What is up with the education system today? Are they teaching these kids about reading comprehension?
But I've had enough of bumping your thread. I shall now respond to other threads so this one will bury itself.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
53
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:45:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Oh god no.
Like a virus, stupidity is born with one post. And then it spreads...like wildfires.
You can thank that one merc who started this crap for bringing about complaint that is minor and utterly idiotic to complain about.
Those opposing civil rights and abolition of slavery most certainly said the same thing as you. You sound petty dude or dudette.
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
53
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:48:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:I use it and it is stupid
If you cancel the reload animation then your weapon shouldn't be reloaded .. nonsense like this is why I don't play COD .. introduce jamming for all weapons so if you try to cancel the reload animation the weapon jams and forces you to have to go through the reload animation ..
Don't care if X Y Z game has it or how much of the community uses it, this is Dust .. it's not supposed to be your run of the mill shooter
Why have reload skills if animation cancelling is a viable tactic .. if I was planning on being a commando I'd be asking for a different suit bonus
Just remove reloading altogether and have no animation .. problem solved xD
I agree with the initial parts of your post but I dont think reloading should be removed. Being able to cancel when you already removed the clip is just so 1996
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Solitar Greywatch
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
116
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:48:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:No, anyone can use it, if its removed we go back to Chromosone reloading where your gun wouldn't reload at all even though the animation was finished. I did say to just remove reloading altogether .. infinite ammo clips for all .. no need for reload cancelling if there is no reload function .. solves everyones problems muy estupido I have notice that Michael has been honing his Spanish skills. :) An educated Caldari is a deadly Caldari. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2651
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:50:00 -
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Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:No, anyone can use it, if its removed we go back to Chromosone reloading where your gun wouldn't reload at all even though the animation was finished. I did say to just remove reloading altogether .. infinite ammo clips for all .. no need for reload cancelling if there is no reload function .. solves everyones problems muy estupido I have notice that Michael has been honing his Spanish skills. :) An educated Caldari is a deadly Caldari.
LOL, thank you kirjuun. I am making a effort...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2171
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:55:00 -
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My base reload time is already 8 seconds and 50% of the time I have to spam the trigger to get it to fire after that ridiculous reload.
So, I'm gonna go ahead and say No. **** NO, actually.
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Solitar Greywatch
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
117
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:56:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:No, anyone can use it, if its removed we go back to Chromosone reloading where your gun wouldn't reload at all even though the animation was finished. I did say to just remove reloading altogether .. infinite ammo clips for all .. no need for reload cancelling if there is no reload function .. solves everyones problems muy estupido I have notice that Michael has been honing his Spanish skills. :) An educated Caldari is a deadly Caldari. LOL, thank you kirjuun. I am making a effort... Let me give it a try. Dust cinco uno cuatro es un juego muy bueno. That is probably not right. :) Translation: Dust 514 is a very good game. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
972
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Posted - 2014.01.20 02:00:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Modded Pads, Wallhacks and Auto Aim are in many other FPS titles too .. should we add them to Dust as well ? Shooting people, throwing grenades, dropping airstrikes and capturing points was in other games too, should we remove these as well?
Ridiculous post is ridiculous. Stop before you dig yourself into a hole you can't climb out of.
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
2033
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Posted - 2014.01.20 02:13:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuOXS3sboB0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Watch how many times in the video he tries to reload and you think the animation is over, yet it doesn't finish.
Or just skip to 4:45 to hear him complain about it.
You can only sprint cancel after you've put in a clip, and all that plays afterwards is the animation of your character putting the gun down.
How is this unfair or wrong? Why do you honestly need to wait that extra second for the character to move the gun back into postion for it to be a "full reload"
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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.20 02:20:00 -
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definitely needs fixing. |
Summ Dude
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.20 02:27:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Oh god no.
Like a virus, stupidity is born with one post. And then it spreads...like wildfires.
You can thank that one merc who started this crap for bringing about complaint that is minor and utterly idiotic to complain about.
He's referring to me and my thread, of course. Dude, you really can't be so terrified of change all the time. I mean, you call others children, but I think saying "This is what I'm used to so this is what it must be forever and always" is kinda childish. Anyway, since you're making the same points here as before, allow me to counter them:
Other games can do whatever they want, but this isn't other games, this is Dust. It's mechanics should be based on whatever works best for Dust. Using established conventions for familiarity is fine, but knowledge of other games' mechanics should never be a prerequisite to play this one. That is terrible game design.
Michael Arck wrote:Man, HTFU and do some push ups.
Really man, really? Again, I don't think a person who talks like this has the right to be calling anyone else immature. Just saying.
To the OP, let's maybe keep reload animations....yea. But how about just like, make them make sense? So they can't be magically skipped partway through. Or even better, where the animation is progressive (i.e. you pull the mag out then cancel, when you start reloading again you don't have to watch the animation of pulling another mag out).
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
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maeth-01 2501
DUST University Ivy League
33
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Posted - 2014.01.20 02:29:00 -
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Only read the first few posts but.......I thought it was ment to cancel when you sprint...its not a glitch..... you ever tried loading a gun whilst your sprinting....cant be done without slowing...
And yes, I have...You drop stuff
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Summ Dude
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
135
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Posted - 2014.01.20 02:32:00 -
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maeth-01 2501 wrote:Only read the first few posts but.......I thought it was ment to cancel when you sprint...its not a glitch..... you ever tried loading a gun whilst your sprinting....cant be done without slowing...
And yes, I have...You drop stuff
I think you might misunderstand. You see, if during the reload animation you sprint just after your character puts the new magazine in the gun, the rest of the animation is skipped and your gun is counted as reloaded. I don't even like when people call this a reload cancel, because it's really not. It's a reload skip.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.20 03:31:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:My base reload time is already 8 seconds and 50% of the time I have to spam the trigger to get it to fire after that ridiculous reload.
So, I'm gonna go ahead and say No. **** NO, actually.
Good sig, but I preferred the old one.
Also, F*CK no.
It only takes HMG down to 6s at best (probably more like 6.25). It's the difference between living and dying. I can only imagine how good a 4.5 second reload would be, including maxed skills.
It benefits most those with the longest reload times, and adds a little bit of skill (or practice, I guess, but isn't that the same thing) to the game. And even with it, long reload times are LONG.
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
103
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Posted - 2014.01.20 12:14:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Man, HTFU and do some push ups. Calling you a kid isn't name calling. Cause I know only kids who argue about meaningless crap. That's not a diss or name calling. That's life. An adult isn't going to be complaining about a reload sprint cancel...get real.
Yes, maybe you just played Halo and that's it. It's called an assumption. As long as I have been playing video games and FPS titles, reload sprint cancel has been a part of the game. Some have it and some don't, but its something that many people have used and seen before. Others who are seasoned in video games has said the exact same thing in the other thread.
It's stupid, not you stupid...it's stupid!!
What is up with the education system today? Are they teaching these kids about reading comprehension?
But I've had enough of bumping your thread. I shall now respond to other threads so this one will bury itself.
Irrelevant conjecture
Assumptions based on nothing are pointless and meaningless
Your whole argument is .. other games have it so DUST should have it .. It's always been a stupid feature due to bad game design just because you disagree doesn't mean that I'm not right
Pretty ironic questioning someones intelligence with an argument as weak as the one your trying to push
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
244
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Posted - 2014.01.20 12:26:00 -
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This glitch is tricky with the rail rifle imo. Might just be used to the AR timing but it seems that more times than not when I do it with my RR that it doesn't reload at all. Perhaps I'm just a dolt. |
Teilka Darkmist
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Posted - 2014.01.20 12:45:00 -
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It 's pretty simple. If the clip/battery/whatever isn't all the way in and locked in place, it should fall out if you cancel the reload by sprinting. If it is at that point , it doesn't fall out. It would be even better if doing it not only made you have to reload but also made you lose a clip's worth of ammo. I doubt that will happen though.
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2014.01.20 12:47:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:No, anyone can use it, if its removed we go back to Chromosone reloading where your gun wouldn't reload at all even though the animation was finished. I did say to just remove reloading altogether .. infinite ammo clips for all .. no need for reload cancelling if there is no reload function .. solves everyones problems PLC |
Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2014.01.20 13:19:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:It 's pretty simple. If the clip/battery/whatever isn't all the way in and locked in place, it should fall out if you cancel the reload by sprinting. If it is at that point , it doesn't fall out. It would be even better if doing it not only made you have to reload but also made you lose a clip's worth of ammo. I doubt that will happen though.
Yeah would be good lol
I wish when I was in the army I could speed up reloading by sprinting whilst in the process of reloading .. would've saved myself alot of time and effort .. clips in o.O sprint and it's magically finished reloading lol |
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