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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.19 16:32:00 -
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Large Turrets, they have a charge up time for the first shot, why not apply to each shot rather than just the first? Would decrease RoF and allow quicker vehicles to escape.
Also, fix the buggy rails CCP.
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.19 16:35:00 -
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I'm pretty sure every shot on the railgun has a charge up time; at least they did last time I used one which was last night.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:09:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I'm pretty sure every shot on the rail turrets has a charge up time; at least they did last time I used one which was last night.
and your wrong you only have to go through a second charge up time if you let off the firing button which only a scrubby rail user would do
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Cooper Eudaemon
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:13:00 -
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I agree to this wholeheartedly. Been saying it for a while actually.
Small Rail turrets, and the rail-type infantry weapons don't do anywhere near the amount of damage the large turret does when compared to other weapons in their respective classes.
Because the large rail turrets pack such a punch, it makes perfect sense (to me, at least) that they should behave like the Forge Gun.
They should have to charge each shot, and there should be a fairly obvious, visible charge glow.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:15:00 -
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Cooper Eudaemon wrote:I agree to this wholeheartedly. Been saying it for a while actually.
Small Rail turrets, and the rail-type infantry weapons don't do anywhere near the amount of damage the large turret does when compared to other weapons in their respective classes.
Because the large rail turrets pack such a punch, it makes perfect sense (to me, at least) that they should behave like the Forge Gun.
They should have to charge each shot, and there should be a fairly obvious, visible charge glow.
+1 for the glow afterthought
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:23:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I'm pretty sure every shot on the rail turrets has a charge up time; at least they did last time I used one which was last night.
There's an interval when you hold the trigger, but the charge time is only on the first shot. Unless you let go after every shot. Basically, it acts like a rail rifle.
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Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:27:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Thumb Green wrote:I'm pretty sure every shot on the rail turrets has a charge up time; at least they did last time I used one which was last night. and your wrong you only have to go through a second charge up time if you let off the firing button which only a scrubby rail user would do
Actually if you lay off the trigger you have too go through the spool down then the spool up charge. Holding down the trigger only makes you go through the spool up charge Much like the AFG only its spool up time is far faster. You can actually hear each successive spool up if your paying attention.
(there is also that problem that the spool up indicator doesn't reset with each successive shot because it still hast to indicate the spool down time.)
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:43:00 -
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He who fires first wins.
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DR FEB
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:48:00 -
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I know!
why not have the same way the large railgun fires integrated on the current RR?
The RR will have to charge up,the ROF will decrease but it will have more damage and no heat buildup.the RR willthen be crap in cqc but deal massive damage over a longer distance.
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axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:19:00 -
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man you vehicle people really want absolutely nothing to worry about huh. pff...
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:28:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:He who fires first wins.
Not really I use stealth I've killed Doc DDD and Earl James by surprise two people who would most likely kill me in a head to head battle I rely mainly on stealth over brawn.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:28:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:He who fires first wins.
Its actually he who lands the most bullets on target wins...
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:30:00 -
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not really,a forge gun lands on good shot=you dead vs smg dropping 30 bullets=you hurt
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Darken-Soul
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:35:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I'm pretty sure every shot on the rail turrets has a charge up time; at least they did last time I used one which was last night.
newb.
jk, pegasis had to give me a crash course in rails during 1.6. Its odd to have a charge interval and spool up time after using the forge for so many months.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:35:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Large Turrets, they have a charge up time for the first shot, why not apply to each shot rather than just the first? Would decrease RoF and allow quicker vehicles to escape.
Also, fix the buggy rails CCP.
Can't kill people with your Maddy because you've met your natural predator? Too bad.
Railguns are the only AV left that actually works, and you want them nerfed too? HTFU.
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:55:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Large Turrets, they have a charge up time for the first shot, why not apply to each shot rather than just the first? Would decrease RoF and allow quicker vehicles to escape.
Also, fix the buggy rails CCP. Can't kill people with your Maddy because you've met your natural predator? Too bad. Railguns are the only AV left that actually works, and you want them nerfed too? HTFU.
I'm a Gunnlogi AV pilot you ******* tard, Rails and Missiles are my domain.
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
1267
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:04:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Large Turrets, they have a charge up time for the first shot, why not apply to each shot rather than just the first? Would decrease RoF and allow quicker vehicles to escape.
Also, fix the buggy rails CCP. Can't kill people with your Maddy because you've met your natural predator? Too bad. Railguns are the only AV left that actually works, and you want them nerfed too? HTFU.
Do you even forum warrior?
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:11:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:man you vehicle people really want absolutely nothing to worry about huh. pff...
If vehicles cost what suits did then we wouldn't have to worry. It's the high risk low reward scheme. Also, correct me if I am wrong but most tankers don't make much isk, especially if they get popped. From what I have seen most tankers have a fairly average kill ratio in any given match. As individuals they don't really stand out, it's the number of tanks that make the impact.
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:16:00 -
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:axis alpha wrote:man you vehicle people really want absolutely nothing to worry about huh. pff... If vehicles cost what suits did then we wouldn't have to worry. It's the high risk low reward scheme. Also, correct me if I am wrong but most tankers don't make much isk, especially if they get popped. From what I have seen most tankers have a fairly average kill ratio in any given match. As individuals they don't really stand out, it's the number of tanks that make the impact.
Lost 15mil in the last 2-3 days.
It'd be nice if I was making ISK like I'm apparently meant to..
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Darken-Soul
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:20:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:axis alpha wrote:man you vehicle people really want absolutely nothing to worry about huh. pff... If vehicles cost what suits did then we wouldn't have to worry. It's the high risk low reward scheme. Also, correct me if I am wrong but most tankers don't make much isk, especially if they get popped. From what I have seen most tankers have a fairly average kill ratio in any given match. As individuals they don't really stand out, it's the number of tanks that make the impact. Lost 15mil in the last 2-3 days. It'd be nice if I was making ISK like I'm apparently meant to..
run a cheaper tank. I have a gunnlogi I can that devastates for 137k. If I get popped I call another. The firepower it brings to the table is amazing. I rarely go negative on isk. Plus run ambush, terrible tankers there to pop all day long.
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
1267
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:20:00 -
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:axis alpha wrote:man you vehicle people really want absolutely nothing to worry about huh. pff... If vehicles cost what suits did then we wouldn't have to worry. It's the high risk low reward scheme. Also, correct me if I am wrong but most tankers don't make much isk, especially if they get popped. From what I have seen most tankers have a fairly average kill ratio in any given match. As individuals they don't really stand out, it's the number of tanks that make the impact.
1.6 30mil 1.7 50 mil then I dropped to about 40 got about 10m ISK from someone peaked at about 53 mil now I'm 47-49mil I tend to call in 2-3 tanks a match even if I am losing tanks.
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:32:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:axis alpha wrote:man you vehicle people really want absolutely nothing to worry about huh. pff... If vehicles cost what suits did then we wouldn't have to worry. It's the high risk low reward scheme. Also, correct me if I am wrong but most tankers don't make much isk, especially if they get popped. From what I have seen most tankers have a fairly average kill ratio in any given match. As individuals they don't really stand out, it's the number of tanks that make the impact. Lost 15mil in the last 2-3 days. It'd be nice if I was making ISK like I'm apparently meant to.. run a cheaper tank. I have a gunnlogi I can that devastates for 137k. If I get popped I call another. The firepower it brings to the table is amazing. I rarely go negative on isk. Plus run ambush, terrible tankers there to pop all day long.
Not a chance, I'm running an expensive fit to make a point. It also puts additional isk in the enemies pot and if some of that goes to the guy that kills me, I'm okay with it.
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Darken-Soul
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:54:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:axis alpha wrote:man you vehicle people really want absolutely nothing to worry about huh. pff... If vehicles cost what suits did then we wouldn't have to worry. It's the high risk low reward scheme. Also, correct me if I am wrong but most tankers don't make much isk, especially if they get popped. From what I have seen most tankers have a fairly average kill ratio in any given match. As individuals they don't really stand out, it's the number of tanks that make the impact. Lost 15mil in the last 2-3 days. It'd be nice if I was making ISK like I'm apparently meant to.. run a cheaper tank. I have a gunnlogi I can that devastates for 137k. If I get popped I call another. The firepower it brings to the table is amazing. I rarely go negative on isk. Plus run ambush, terrible tankers there to pop all day long. Not a chance, I'm running an expensive fit to make a point. It also puts additional isk in the enemies pot and if some of that goes to the guy that kills me, I'm okay with it.
people do the same with dropsuits its called protostomping. They make a point too.
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:56:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Thumb Green wrote:I'm pretty sure every shot on the rail turrets has a charge up time; at least they did last time I used one which was last night. and your wrong you only have to go through a second charge up time if you let off the firing button which only a scrubby rail user would do
Well that's strange because i tried it against shortly after that post and there was a charge up for each shot. I only let go of the trigger when it would get close to overheating, it began dry firing, or there wasn't anything to shoot at anymore.
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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2014.01.19 20:50:00 -
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As an AV player, I agree that there should be slower firing for the large rail turret. However I also feel that the large rail turret should have more kick and shouldn't automatically recenter exactly where it was last aiming before it fired. this would make DS's and LAV's a little more survivable when a rail tanker is redline sniping, but wouldn't effect mid-long ranged rail gunners as much. Perhaps increase the clip size by one or two to compensate.
If they did these two small changes, I would at least not complain about the rail turret sniping anymore. The tankiest ADS that can be fitted up in the game can be 2-3 shotted out of the sky (depending on the number of damage mods on the tank) in less than 2 seconds, and as someone who hunts dropships on foot, they die to tanks WAY too fast. Something needs to be adjusted. 2-3 shot them, sure. But give them a fighting chance by not automatically recentering after every shot and by having a slight delay between shots so they can actually react.
+1
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.19 20:54:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:axis alpha wrote:man you vehicle people really want absolutely nothing to worry about huh. pff... If vehicles cost what suits did then we wouldn't have to worry. It's the high risk low reward scheme. Also, correct me if I am wrong but most tankers don't make much isk, especially if they get popped. From what I have seen most tankers have a fairly average kill ratio in any given match. As individuals they don't really stand out, it's the number of tanks that make the impact. Lost 15mil in the last 2-3 days. It'd be nice if I was making ISK like I'm apparently meant to.. run a cheaper tank. I have a gunnlogi I can that devastates for 137k. If I get popped I call another. The firepower it brings to the table is amazing. I rarely go negative on isk. Plus run ambush, terrible tankers there to pop all day long.
My assault dropships are 500K, I won't dare fly one with subpar modules :/
Tanks need a price hike.
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Posted - 2014.01.19 21:17:00 -
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Yeah I bought a rail tank to kill redline rail tanks and my god, just hold down the trigger and watch vehicles pop. Its the most boring unskillful thing I've done, there should be a charge between each shot. |
Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:45:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Lost 15mil in the last 2-3 days.
It'd be nice if I was making ISK like I'm apparently meant to..
I was at 50m early last week and now I have 65m, plus 5m in an alt. 
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:41:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Large Turrets, they have a charge up time for the first shot, why not apply to each shot rather than just the first? Would decrease RoF and allow quicker vehicles to escape.
Also, fix the buggy rails CCP. Can't kill people with your Maddy because you've met your natural predator? Too bad. Railguns are the only AV left that actually works, and you want them nerfed too? HTFU. I'm a Gunnlogi AV pilot you ******* tard, Rails and Missiles are my domain.
Wait until we have other effective options to destroy vehicles, then nerf them. Its the only thing that works anymore, if they were nerfed, Blaster Maddies would have nothing to stop them from playing whack-a -mole with infantry.
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.20 02:41:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Large Turrets, they have a charge up time for the first shot, why not apply to each shot rather than just the first? Would decrease RoF and allow quicker vehicles to escape.
Also, fix the buggy rails CCP. Can't kill people with your Maddy because you've met your natural predator? Too bad. Railguns are the only AV left that actually works, and you want them nerfed too? HTFU. I'm a Gunnlogi AV pilot you ******* tard, Rails and Missiles are my domain. Wait until we have other effective options to destroy vehicles, then nerf them. Its the only thing that works anymore, if they were nerfed, Blaster Maddies would have nothing to stop them from playing whack-a -mole with infantry.
Mate, it's literally just adding a second or two between shots, it doesn't change much but does allow LAVs and Dropships a little more room to manoeuvre. Against tanks not much would change.
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