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Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5397	Posted - 2014.01.19 08:56:00 - [1] - Quote The week of April 24th, 2013 to May 2nd, 2013 we had the a triple SP event. Four days later on May 6th, Uprising officially launched and everyone got a respec. Again, just four days after a triple SP event. The week of January 22nd, 2014 to January 29th, 2014 we are getting a triple SP event. Yes, they say 5x, but what they mean by that is only the SP gained from warpoints will be 5x, however the weekly cap will only be 3x. This was done because CCP wanted to encourage actually participating in battles during these events, but didn't want to make it feel like too much of a grind. So really it's just a triple SP week. Uprising 1.8 isn't launching until mid-February. So if CCP had a respec only four days after a triple SP event, what makes you think they wouldn't have a respec at least two weeks after a triple SP event? ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2022	Posted - 2014.01.19 09:00:00 - [2] - Quote Wasn't there a dropsuit sp refund right after a triple SP event when they changed the dropsuit skill, and reload skill modifiers? Edit: Oh, and right before the Combat Rifle/Rail Rifle were added. I think it has something to do with big additions or changes to the game. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 160	Posted - 2014.01.19 09:22:00 - [3] - Quote Almost all of the events seem to coincide with them wanting to test something out and I think that is the same with SP events. Some SP event comes around every 3 to 5 weeks. I feel like this probably matches up with a server update schedule that we do not know anything about. Increasing players amount of time on the server will in turn increase the highest number of active players which would be the best case scenario for testing server side patches and hot fixes. We all get so caught up in the update cycle of the client we forget that there needs to be similar updates done server side and most likely on a similar schedule to what the client side updates were at pre-holiday shut down.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5399	Posted - 2014.01.19 09:28:00 - [4] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Almost all of the events seem to coincide with them wanting to test something out and I think that is the same with SP events. Some SP event comes around every 3 to 5 weeks. I feel like this probably matches up with a server update schedule that we do not know anything about. Increasing players amount of time on the server will in turn increase the highest number of active players which would be the best case scenario for testing server side patches and hot fixes. We all get so caught up in the update cycle of the client we forget that there needs to be similar updates done server side and most likely on a similar schedule to what the client side updates were at pre-holiday shut down. Quite honestly, ever since that triple SP event right before Uprising hit we've been getting an accelerated SP event in some form or fashion every month. People who think this new accelerated SP event is somehow a sign of no respecs are kidding themselves. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 160	Posted - 2014.01.19 09:54:00 - [5] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Almost all of the events seem to coincide with them wanting to test something out and I think that is the same with SP events. Some SP event comes around every 3 to 5 weeks. I feel like this probably matches up with a server update schedule that we do not know anything about. Increasing players amount of time on the server will in turn increase the highest number of active players which would be the best case scenario for testing server side patches and hot fixes. We all get so caught up in the update cycle of the client we forget that there needs to be similar updates done server side and most likely on a similar schedule to what the client side updates were at pre-holiday shut down. Quite honestly, ever since that triple SP event right before Uprising hit we've been getting an accelerated SP event in some form or fashion every month. People who think this new accelerated SP event is somehow a sign of no respecs are kidding themselves. I was totally agreeing by pointing out that the SP events probably relate more so to unknown factors by us as well as attempts at player retention.
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 423	Posted - 2014.01.19 10:04:00 - [6] - Quote A respec is like winter........... Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5410	Posted - 2014.01.19 10:36:00 - [7] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: I was totally agreeing by pointing out that the SP events probably relate more so to unknown factors by us as well as attempts at player retention. I know, I was just complimenting your point with more of the same ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 486	Posted - 2014.01.19 10:51:00 - [8] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: A respec is like winter........... It's dark and full of terrors? No wait... Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5896	Posted - 2014.01.19 10:56:00 - [9] - Quote McFurious wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: A respec is like winter........... It's dark and full of terrors? No wait... Ballsed up a Game of Thrones reference...... "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Squagga The State Protectorate 20	Posted - 2014.01.19 11:26:00 - [10] - Quote McFurious wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: A respec is like winter........... It's dark and full of terrors? No wait... Girls cut their hair short and put on a sweater? Reloading, the silent killer.

Squagga The State Protectorate 20	Posted - 2014.01.19 11:29:00 - [11] - Quote Seriously though. Their not gonna give us a respec and have us sit on that sp for a month. CCP is cruel ***** but not that cruel. Are they?? Reloading, the silent killer.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1609	Posted - 2014.01.19 11:50:00 - [12] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Wasn't there a dropsuit sp refund right after a triple SP event when they changed the dropsuit skill, and reload skill modifiers? Edit: Oh, and right before the Combat Rifle/Rail Rifle were added. I think it has something to do with big additions or changes to the game. There was no respec before CR / RR were added. Vehicle users just got SP in the vehicle trees back because of the vehicle tree changes. People should stop assuming respecs are natural for Dust. They aren't. You should be aware that not even the missing racial suits guarantee a respec and sure as hell you won't get a respec every time they add new stuff. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5425	Posted - 2014.01.19 15:22:00 - [13] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Wasn't there a dropsuit sp refund right after a triple SP event when they changed the dropsuit skill, and reload skill modifiers? Edit: Oh, and right before the Combat Rifle/Rail Rifle were added. I think it has something to do with big additions or changes to the game. There was no respec before CR / RR were added. Vehicle users just got SP in the vehicle trees back because of the vehicle tree changes. People should stop assuming respecs are natural for Dust. They aren't. You should be aware that not even the missing racial suits guarantee a respec and sure as hell you won't get a respec every time they add new stuff. No one is saying respecs are natural for Dust, and the CR / RR argument is poor. If you believe the people asking for a respec are asking for it simply because new stuff has been added, then you're not even paying attention to anyone's arguments. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2025	Posted - 2014.01.19 15:33:00 - [14] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Wasn't there a dropsuit sp refund right after a triple SP event when they changed the dropsuit skill and reload skill modifiers? Edit: Oh, and right before the Combat Rifle/Rail Rifle were added. I think it has something to do with big additions or changes to the game. There was no respec before CR / RR were added. Vehicle users just got SP in the vehicle trees back because of the vehicle tree changes. People should stop assuming respecs are natural for Dust. They aren't. You should be aware that not even the missing racial suits guarantee a respec and sure as hell you won't get a respec every time they add new stuff. What? No, you read that wrong. I meant that there was a triple SP event right before the CR/RR release, not a refund. I'll edit it to make more sense. The other thing is that they aren't ONLY adding new things into the game. They are completely changing the bonuses to every dropsuit currently available, and adding in a ton more. If they were just adding in dropsuits then yeah I see what you're saying, but when they COMPLETELY CHANGE something they almost always give out sp refunds to the skill areas that they have changed. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1644	Posted - 2014.01.19 15:44:00 - [15] - Quote Any person who says no respects needs to be thrown into a pit under a firing squad of core locus, mass drivers, fluxes, PLC's, all assault variants of every races rifle, and to top it all off a damn orbital too. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Teilka Darkmist 2	Posted - 2014.01.19 15:53:00 - [16] - Quote Maybe if they made a respec voluntary, like they have in the past with eve. In fact I think my capsuleers still have a respec each they can use. They could then add a paid respec mechanic where every so often, maybe once per expansion or once per year, you could pay a certain amount of isk or Aurum to reassign all or maybe a portion of your SP.
Blue Buggs L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 46	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:05:00 - [17] - Quote As long as im able to move SP from one race to another once the new suits drop, I dont care. My SP in all other areas are fine. Just want my Galente heavy and commando suits.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 866	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:22:00 - [18] - Quote Everyone should progress naturally into the new content. If all I thought about was mememememe and My SP and thought that Spending it meant I would get a rebate when something new comes out I want instead of what I have and have been using. I would want all my SP back so I could spend it on something else. After all? never got any kills or gained any skill points or increased my standings amoungst my peers with those skills I should be able to trade them in as if they where brand new! and I never spent them! Lol people PAID subscriptions every month for EVE, in most cases several subs. So they automatically felt entitled somewhat.. As they invested into it already... They have made changes that have made 8 months of training in the game pointless... NOT ONCE did you see a respec argument in the forums... Come here? They tweak a gun... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... they tweak a suit... OMG I WANT A RESPEC.... They nerf the FOTM.... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... They add Racial variants that haven't been in the game for 8 months? so "New" content.. not "owed" to you.... and everyone DESERVES a respec?!?!?!?! The massive differences in console to PC world is hilarious, probably stems from developers holding your hands and making games "easy" .... its kinda amusing. CCP you created this RESPEC begging culture on your forums by catering to it in Uprising launch.... at some point a public statement needs to be made on this. After all your CCP - Crowd Control Productions..
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1612	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:25:00 - [19] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Wasn't there a dropsuit sp refund right after a triple SP event when they changed the dropsuit skill, and reload skill modifiers? Edit: Oh, and right before the Combat Rifle/Rail Rifle were added. I think it has something to do with big additions or changes to the game. There was no respec before CR / RR were added. Vehicle users just got SP in the vehicle trees back because of the vehicle tree changes. People should stop assuming respecs are natural for Dust. They aren't. You should be aware that not even the missing racial suits guarantee a respec and sure as hell you won't get a respec every time they add new stuff. No one is saying respecs are natural for Dust, and the CR / RR argument is poor. If you believe the people asking for a respec are asking for it simply because new stuff has been added, then you're not even paying attention to anyone's arguments. Quote: I think it has something to do with big additions or changes to the game. THis sure sounds like it. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Teilka Darkmist 2	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:30:00 - [20] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Everyone should progress naturally into the new content. If all I thought about was mememememe and My SP and thought that Spending it meant I would get a rebate when something new comes out I want instead of what I have and have been using. I would want all my SP back so I could spend it on something else. After all? never got any kills or gained any skill points or increased my standings amoungst my peers with those skills I should be able to trade them in as if they where brand new! and I never spent them! Lol people PAID subscriptions every month for EVE, in most cases several subs. So they automatically felt entitled somewhat.. As they invested into it already... They have made changes that have made 8 months of training in the game pointless... NOT ONCE did you see a respec argument in the forums... Come here? They tweak a gun... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... they tweak a suit... OMG I WANT A RESPEC.... They nerf the FOTM.... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... They add Racial variants that haven't been in the game for 8 months? so "New" content.. not "owed" to you.... and everyone DESERVES a respec?!?!?!?! The massive differences in console to PC world is hilarious, probably stems from developers holding your hands and making games "easy" .... its kinda amusing. CCP you created this RESPEC begging culture on your forums by catering to it in Uprising launch.... at some point a public statement needs to be made on this. After all your CCP - Crowd Control Productions.. I think the 'respec begging culture' as you put it is less about what CCP have done and more about the difference between FPS gamers and RPG gamers. Personally I'd like a respec so that I can move my SP out of areas where I don't want them anymore and into the areas I've found through playing that I enjoy, however I'm just as fine with them not giving us a respec. My suggestion about paid respecs and voluntary ones was just that, a suggestion. It's not up to me what CCP do with their game, but I'm invested in it enough that I'll happily give them ideas of things I would like to see since CCP is one of the few game development companies who actually listen to their players to any appreciable degree. 'You can only post every 5 minutes because your account is less than 2 days old' - Great way to encourage a community.

Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1248	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:33:00 - [21] - Quote Data farming, clear and simple. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10162	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:37:00 - [22] - Quote Dropsuit Command Dropsuit Upgrades Weaponry Get ready for that SP to come back to you. Also, get ready to party, because if it does, this game will officially be revived for many old players. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 866	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:37:00 - [23] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: Bethhy wrote: Everyone should progress naturally into the new content. If all I thought about was mememememe and My SP and thought that Spending it meant I would get a rebate when something new comes out I want instead of what I have and have been using. I would want all my SP back so I could spend it on something else. After all? never got any kills or gained any skill points or increased my standings amoungst my peers with those skills I should be able to trade them in as if they where brand new! and I never spent them! Lol people PAID subscriptions every month for EVE, in most cases several subs. So they automatically felt entitled somewhat.. As they invested into it already... They have made changes that have made 8 months of training in the game pointless... NOT ONCE did you see a respec argument in the forums... Come here? They tweak a gun... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... they tweak a suit... OMG I WANT A RESPEC.... They nerf the FOTM.... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... They add Racial variants that haven't been in the game for 8 months? so "New" content.. not "owed" to you.... and everyone DESERVES a respec?!?!?!?! The massive differences in console to PC world is hilarious, probably stems from developers holding your hands and making games "easy" .... its kinda amusing. CCP you created this RESPEC begging culture on your forums by catering to it in Uprising launch.... at some point a public statement needs to be made on this. After all your CCP - Crowd Control Productions.. I think the 'respec begging culture' as you put it is less about what CCP have done and more about the difference between FPS gamers and RPG gamers. Personally I'd like a respec so that I can move my SP out of areas where I don't want them anymore and into the areas I've found through playing that I enjoy, however I'm just as fine with them not giving us a respec. My suggestion about paid respecs and voluntary ones was just that, a suggestion. It's not up to me what CCP do with their game, but I'm invested in it enough that I'll happily give them ideas of things I would like to see since CCP is one of the few game development companies who actually listen to their players to any appreciable degree. This is a RPG - FPS... sadly it comes off as a lobby shooter with a persistent skill system. Here's hoping PC 2.0(Which they have been working on since 1.4) will change that. No one keeps the same playstyle in a game forever... Training into other roles into DUST or a different playstyle should be a reason for a training and playing DUST... not a reason for a respec
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10162	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:49:00 - [24] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: Bethhy wrote: Everyone should progress naturally into the new content. If all I thought about was mememememe and My SP and thought that Spending it meant I would get a rebate when something new comes out I want instead of what I have and have been using. I would want all my SP back so I could spend it on something else. After all? never got any kills or gained any skill points or increased my standings amoungst my peers with those skills I should be able to trade them in as if they where brand new! and I never spent them! Lol people PAID subscriptions every month for EVE, in most cases several subs. So they automatically felt entitled somewhat.. As they invested into it already... They have made changes that have made 8 months of training in the game pointless... NOT ONCE did you see a respec argument in the forums... Come here? They tweak a gun... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... they tweak a suit... OMG I WANT A RESPEC.... They nerf the FOTM.... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... They add Racial variants that haven't been in the game for 8 months? so "New" content.. not "owed" to you.... and everyone DESERVES a respec?!?!?!?! The massive differences in console to PC world is hilarious, probably stems from developers holding your hands and making games "easy" .... its kinda amusing. CCP you created this RESPEC begging culture on your forums by catering to it in Uprising launch.... at some point a public statement needs to be made on this. After all your CCP - Crowd Control Productions.. I think the 'respec begging culture' as you put it is less about what CCP have done and more about the difference between FPS gamers and RPG gamers. Personally I'd like a respec so that I can move my SP out of areas where I don't want them anymore and into the areas I've found through playing that I enjoy, however I'm just as fine with them not giving us a respec. My suggestion about paid respecs and voluntary ones was just that, a suggestion. It's not up to me what CCP do with their game, but I'm invested in it enough that I'll happily give them ideas of things I would like to see since CCP is one of the few game development companies who actually listen to their players to any appreciable degree. This is a RPG - FPS... sadly it comes off as a lobby shooter with a persistent skill system. Here's hoping PC 2.0(Which they have been working on since 1.4) will change that. No one keeps the same playstyle in a game forever... Training into other roles into DUST or a different playstyle should be a reason for training and playing DUST... not a reason for a respec The minute to minute gameplay in DUST is quite literally nothing compared to EVE. If you just sit down and rationally look at how the games are played, what the skills are used for and how they apply to your time in game, and just how you go about getting them, it's all vastly different from EVE. You can only extrapolate similarities between the two from the menus and that's about where the similarities end. In EVE, if you spend something wrong or something gets changed up on you, there is a wealth of other things you can fall back to. There are so many ways you can play EVE, so many different things you can do and pursue. That simply is not true for DUST. At all. It is very basic. The FPS mentality is rooted in the moment to moment. Skills that no longer apply to your playstyle are a burden and nothing more. When the suits are changed up, it changes up how you would have spent that SP, completely. It opens up entire new options and builds, and completely invalidates other past builds. When every single thing you do in game is all but directly tied to how your SP is spent, you can't help but refund the relevant skills when you go about changing everything up. In this case: Dropsuit Command, Dropsuit Upgrades, and Weaponry. This allows everyone who has invested in any kind of infantry the same opportunity that vehicles had, to sit down with all the new information at hand and make the build that they find most appealing. CCP wants racial parity, and so do we, so here's hoping 1.8 brings that along with the final respec (until paid SP buyback boosters become a thing, anyways) Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:56:00 - [25] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Everyone should progress naturally into the new content. If all I thought about was mememememe and My SP and thought that Spending it meant I would get a rebate when something new comes out I want instead of what I have and have been using. I would want all my SP back so I could spend it on something else. After all? never got any kills or gained any skill points or increased my standings amoungst my peers with those skills I should be able to trade them in as if they where brand new! and I never spent them! Lol people PAID subscriptions every month for EVE, in most cases several subs. So they automatically felt entitled somewhat.. As they invested into it already... They have made changes that have made 8 months of training in the game pointless... NOT ONCE did you see a respec argument in the forums... Come here? They tweak a gun... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... they tweak a suit... OMG I WANT A RESPEC.... They nerf the FOTM.... OMG I WANT A RESPEC... They add Racial variants that haven't been in the game for 8 months? so "New" content.. not "owed" to you.... and everyone DESERVES a respec?!?!?!?! The massive differences in console to PC world is hilarious, probably stems from developers holding your hands and making games "easy" .... its kinda amusing. CCP you created this RESPEC begging culture on your forums by catering to it in Uprising launch.... at some point a public statement needs to be made on this. After all your CCP - Crowd Control Productions.. you are dealing with alot of casual gamers in the console world. We have jobs and kids. What makes the respec an issue is time. Some people don't have the time to grind every day. Lately it hasn't been fen either. CCP introduces changes that alienate the player base. It sucks for player retention when people like you harp on us for having a life. I enjoyed dust 514 for a long time, its a different game now. Battles that used to be all out of warfare are now shot out at the 70m mark. Tanks roll around and kill infantry unopposed. Dropships can't be hurt unless the pilot is a moron. I've been here as long as most, I've seen people come and go. The biggest reason for people I know to quit dust is change. All the work people put in to their toon gets cast aside by the nerf cycle and constant balancing. That is one reason people are moving on, we understand it will never get better. Here's an example, I have 33-34million SP into infantry skills. Since 1.7 I have been stuck in a tank. It blows, but unless I want my fortune,stats, and gaming experience to suffer I have to FoTM. So I pick the lesser of two evils. I would love to spec out of heavies and AV because it is an isk sink. Its not cost effective and its boring as hell standing on a roof waiting for a tank to pass by with its hardeners down. We have a valid reason for wanting a respec. A ton of us have never heard of eve and wouldn't care if we did. Its a different game culture. FPS is a hard crowd to please, there is a list of companies that do it better. CCP has a good idea with this game, I hope they learn more about console gamers and work to attract some more. I was playing black ops a week ago. There is still as many people playing at a time as people logging into dust in a day. The game is old as hell. Imagin if we could get those guys interested and buying boosters. CCP could afford more staff and get more work done. I was on the eve forums the other day, they are having trouble with player retention as well. Well if threads are to be believed. I am not asking that CCP cater. I just want them to be reasonable. If you take care of us we will take care of you. I am the real Darken
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3634	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:01:00 - [26] - Quote In that case, the triple SP was to reward beta participants; it was our "head start" We used to have a time machine
Teilka Darkmist 2	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:10:00 - [27] - Quote Bethhy wrote: No one keeps the same playstyle in a game forever... Training into other roles into DUST or a different playstyle should be a reason for training and playing DUST... not a reason for a respec I agree that no-one keeps the same playstyle forever however you're more likely to have one or two that you use more often and fall back on. I regularly switch between two in battles. And I'm not saying that respecs should be a regular or inexpensive thing. The way I can see it in my head is every so often, maybe after each expansion or every year you get to pay a set amount of isk or aurum to reallocate all or a certain number of your SP. 'You can only post every 5 minutes because your account is less than 2 days old' - Great way to encourage a community.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5438	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:11:00 - [28] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: In that case, the triple SP was to reward beta participants; it was our "head start" Pretty sure the beta itself was the head start, not the triple SP week ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:54:00 - [29] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: In that case, the triple SP was to reward beta participants; it was our "head start" Pretty sure the beta itself was the head start, not the triple SP week I finished beta with 10mil SP. I have 36mil presently. It was a good head start, but someone who started in Uprising can still have a 25 mil+ toon. After 20its really just entertaining your hobbies anyway. I am the real Darken
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 866	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:57:00 - [30] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: you are dealing with alot of casual gamers in the console world. We have jobs and kids. What makes the respec an issue is time. Some people don't have the time to grind every day. Lately it hasn't been fen either. CCP introduces changes that alienate the player base. It sucks for player retention when people like you harp on us for having a life. I enjoyed dust 514 for a long time, its a different game now. Battles that used to be all out of warfare are now shot out at the 70m mark. Tanks roll around and kill infantry unopposed. Dropships can't be hurt unless the pilot is a moron. I've been here as long as most, I've seen people come and go. The biggest reason for people I know to quit dust is change. All the work people put in to their toon gets cast aside by the nerf cycle and constant balancing. That is one reason people are moving on, we understand it will never get better. Here's an example, I have 33-34million SP into infantry skills. Since 1.7 I have been stuck in a tank. It blows, but unless I want my fortune,stats, and gaming experience to suffer I have to FoTM. So I pick the lesser of two evils. I would love to spec out of heavies and AV because it is an isk sink. Its not cost effective and its boring as hell standing on a roof waiting for a tank to pass by with its hardeners down. We have a valid reason for wanting a respec. A ton of us have never heard of eve and wouldn't care if we did. Its a different game culture. FPS is a hard crowd to please, there is a list of companies that do it better. CCP has a good idea with this game, I hope they learn more about console gamers and work to attract some more. I was playing black ops a week ago. There is still as many people playing at a time as people logging into dust in a day. The game is old as hell. Imagin if we could get those guys interested and buying boosters. CCP could afford more staff and get more work done. I was on the eve forums the other day, they are having trouble with player retention as well. Well if threads are to be believed. I am not asking that CCP cater. I just want them to be reasonable. If you take care of us we will take care of you. Most of us have a life, a job, family, kids... Doesn't mean we want an "easy" game... Or one where we can merely click a button and have all the skills and history of our character erased so that we can simply put our skill points where the most powerful thing is right at that point(There will always be something). Skill points don't have to be actively earned in this game, You don't even have to play the game to stay somewhat competitive in skills and equipment, not casual enough of a feature?... SKill points gain passively.. so that we can go and have a life and come back and the game hasn't completely gone away from us. If you want the brand new shinny thing RIGHT NAOW?! then yes you might have to grind some to get it right away.. Or pull out the Credit Card and grab some Aurum. Not trade in your used skill points for the new shinny. There are persistent core mechanic game issues for over 2 years? And we are blaming respec's as the culprit for player loss? there are hundreds of reasons DUST has issues before we can even debate about respec's being one. EVE has trouble with player Retention? since like ever? it's a huge reason that is starting in DUST right now too. It's a Famous graph Depicting the Learning Curve of EVE Building a new player learning curve and guiding process is more of an issue in DUST then even Core mechanic issues like Frame rates and Collision Mechanics.. lets not even go to the messed up aiming system... I've been in peer circles and the major reason I saw people quit was persistent core game mechanic issues. from ..Frame rate slide shows, Aiming Mechanics from Uprising 1.0,1.2,1.3 then controversial AA that emptied out the competitive player base. Terrible implementation of PC that excluded 95% of the DUST population.. Terrible performance of PC... Running the same game modes for a year... Everyone knew the content and items would be changed or tweaked that got or gets into DUST... that is a staple of CCP games in general. @ Dust Fiend, Ofcourse the Minute to minute is nothing compared to EVE, a FPS versus a 3rd person tactical space sim?. In Eve the skill points passively gain very slowly and you can't actively earn skill points by grinding... So when they change something there is no grinding out of it into something new it's waiting sometimes months of subscription pay... Again if it was about memememe, I have probably 7mil? in skill points allocated in places I won't use probably for months if conceivably ever really for what I'm planning.. Doesn't mean I deserve a respec though? or that it would even change my drive to play on 1.8 patch day one way or another people will be on. My Character is the way I made it, i did it... and those are my choices in the process of DUST's dev



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