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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:25:00 -
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As the Lenin of the armoured ex-proletariat, I approve of this thread.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:51:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Standard Armour Plates - Fine
Standard Repper Plates - Fine
Ferroscale Plates - Fine
Reactive Plates - Need a buff - 44/66/88 HP | 1/2/3 HP/s | 1/3/5 % Speed Penalty
Shield Extenders - Fine
Shield Recharges - Fine
Shield Energizers - Reduce costs a little
Shield Regulators - 25/35/45 % Shield Recharge Delay 30/40/50% Shield Depleted Recharge Delay
Mostly agreed, but if you lowered the fitting costs for the energizers compared to the rechargers there would be no reason at all to use a recharger over an energizer because unless you're using it on a Caldari heavy the HP difference is negligible.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:56:00 -
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Midas Fool wrote:Spademan wrote:That shield tankers used to be nigh-invulnerable.
Wasnt that long ago really, just by the open beta and maybe a bit after, Shields were the obvious choice then. Ah yes this is what I figured someone had to vaguely/sarcastically say (not directed at you, Spademan). I remember when shields were overpowered. I remember the relentless armor tanker crying over it, and I remember armor being buffed and shields nerfed hard. I didn't say I wanted shields to be back to that level, but it is clear that they need a buff. I don't need to be a vet to see this.
Shields were never nerfed hard. A depleted shield delay penalty does not constitute a heavy nerf.
Armour did, however, receive a pretty good buffing and shields need to be able to leverage their superior regen more.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.01.19 20:14:00 -
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Midas Fool wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Shields were never nerfed hard. A depleted shield delay penalty does not constitute a heavy nerf.
Armour did, however, receive a pretty good buffing and shields need to be able to leverage their superior regen more. Forgive me, Gods of Semantics, for clearly I sin against you far too much. Ok, so shields received a (nice and gentle) nerf. This is flat out true. I feel as though the introduction of AA and the consistent lowering of TTK by the introduction and emphasis on extremely powerful weapons has had a much greater effect on shields feeling "nerfed" than the depleted delay. But yes, now that the raw HP potential of armor has been accentuated to counter these things the regen potential of shields should follow suit.
I am actually a God of semantics, singular.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.01.19 20:16:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Midas Fool wrote:...lies in the choice between basic/reactive plates/reps versus shield regulators. Guess which is the clear choice?
Currently the extra EHP plates/reps offer far outweighs the tiny reduction in recharge delay, especially at basic level.
The solution? Buff shield regulators. Make them much more effective (10/2025 -> 20/35/50) or give some extra shields (maybe 10/20/30). Honestly one or the other would suffice, although I would prefer the first option.
Extenders are fine, rechargers/energizers *might* need a slight fitting cost reduction. Regs need some fixing.
Thoughts? Sure but put armor repairers in the highs or move regulators in the lows. Shield regulators work as they are now you just want some godly regeneration that can matrix through bullets.
No. Armour repairers in the highs would make armour too strong. As much as I like the idea of having something other than damage mods or shield extenders, I do not think it would be a good idea to allow 12.5-18.75 HP/s regen rates combined with heavy plate stacking.
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