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Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2925	Posted - 2014.01.18 13:31:00 - [1] - Quote Reference the link AScR is terribad I feel like there has been no change between then and now with the AsCR. It still is pretty weak feeling, and no matter if I burst it or go full auto, this thing even struggles against medium frames in CQ. IDK what, but something still feels very off about this weapon...normal SCR is still God mode though. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1588	Posted - 2014.01.18 13:34:00 - [2] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Reference the link AScR is terribad I feel like there has been no change between then and now with the AsCR. It still is pretty weak feeling, and no matter if I burst it or go full auto, this thing even struggles against medium frames in CQ. IDK what, but something still feels very off about this weapon...normal SCR is still God mode though. Whatever it is they should apply it to the rail rifle... The thing is like a full auto sniper rifle.
Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2925	Posted - 2014.01.18 13:38:00 - [3] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Reference the link AScR is terribad I feel like there has been no change between then and now with the AsCR. It still is pretty weak feeling, and no matter if I burst it or go full auto, this thing even struggles against medium frames in CQ. IDK what, but something still feels very off about this weapon...normal SCR is still God mode though. Whatever it is they should apply it to the rail rifle... The thing is like a full auto sniper rifle. Yeah the RR is the harbinger of doom. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Lorhak Gannarsein 1238	Posted - 2014.01.18 13:41:00 - [4] - Quote AScR is appalling. I hate it wih a passion; whenever I see someone doing well with it I always shudder and think how well they'd be doing with an actual decent gun. PRO tanker and proud.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1618	Posted - 2014.01.18 13:44:00 - [5] - Quote I actually used to love the AScR but ditched it for the AR, which I've now ditched for the CR, because of the fitting costs. If the new logi equipment bonuses allow it, I might go back but since I haven't used it since the CR and RR came out not sure how that will work out. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor! Forum Warrior lv.1
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7973	Posted - 2014.01.18 13:44:00 - [6] - Quote The ASCR is equal to or better than the AR. It has the same DPS, similar accuracy, better sight, larger clip, etc... The CR and RR massively outperform it - but what does that say about the plasma rifle? Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5659	Posted - 2014.01.18 13:54:00 - [7] - Quote One day, people will learn that the recoil on the ASCR is purely visual and that once you get used to it, you realize it's even more accurate than the AR. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Musta Tornius Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 964	Posted - 2014.01.18 13:54:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The ASCR is equal to or better than the AR. It has the same DPS, similar accuracy, better sight, larger clip, etc... The CR and RR massively outperform it - but what does that say about the plasma rifle? Not to mention massively longer range compared to regular AR. DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1461	Posted - 2014.01.18 14:09:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: One day, people will learn that the recoil on the ASCR is purely visual and that once you get used to it, you realize it's even more accurate than the AR. There is no recoil in this game if you compare it to other games where you actually have to drag down on the mouse for 20 inch of mousemat lenght just to keep the gun steady. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Scar Scrilla Cobra Kommando 37	Posted - 2014.01.18 14:15:00 - [10] - Quote The ASCR is beast in some situations.I love it...perfect for suppression. I actually assumed it to be a little OP in the right hands. But it gets outmatched by RR in terms of range and (less)recoil, but in CQC the ASCR is still better IMO. "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3330	Posted - 2014.01.18 14:17:00 - [11] - Quote I actually do way better with the Assault Scrambler then the AR. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7984	Posted - 2014.01.18 14:26:00 - [12] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Cat Merc wrote: One day, people will learn that the recoil on the ASCR is purely visual and that once you get used to it, you realize it's even more accurate than the AR. There is no recoil in this game if you compare it to other games where you actually have to drag down on the mouse for 20 inch of mousemat lenght just to keep the gun steady. Exactly. I always laugh when people tell me the RR has high recoil. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
VonSpliff 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 27	Posted - 2014.01.18 14:27:00 - [13] - Quote Everyone in this thread is out of their minds. The SR assault is just fine. And it does recoil. I'm tired of people with no Sp into an item making rash accusations. It's probably the only weapon that can compete with the RR's range and the CR's rpm. Put some sp into it ! Now the AR is completely worthless. The pattern is F'd and the range is obsolete. The duvolle should have the gek's pattern and a few more meters and then the sp into them would be worth while. I know they had their time in the sun but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of merc's are spec'd into it. "Long live the Empress, unless you got some isk"
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1589	Posted - 2014.01.18 14:32:00 - [14] - Quote VonSpliff wrote: Everyone in this thread is out of their minds. The SR assault is just fine. And it does recoil. I'm tired of people with no Sp into an item making rash accusations. It's probably the only weapon that can compete with the RR's range and the CR's rpm. Put some sp into it ! Now the AR is completely worthless. The pattern is F'd and the range is obsolete. The duvolle should have the gek's pattern and a few more meters and then the sp into them would be worth while. I know they had their time in the sun but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of merc's are spec'd into it. "Long live the Empress, unless you got some isk" I'm pretty sure OP is heavily specced into the SCR
ResistanceGTA Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden 101	Posted - 2014.01.18 14:35:00 - [15] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: VonSpliff wrote: Everyone in this thread is out of their minds. The SR assault is just fine. And it does recoil. I'm tired of people with no Sp into an item making rash accusations. It's probably the only weapon that can compete with the RR's range and the CR's rpm. Put some sp into it ! Now the AR is completely worthless. The pattern is F'd and the range is obsolete. The duvolle should have the gek's pattern and a few more meters and then the sp into them would be worth while. I know they had their time in the sun but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of merc's are spec'd into it. "Long live the Empress, unless you got some isk" I'm pretty sure OP is heavily specced into the SCR Yea... I'm going to go with this. ^^^
Musta Tornius Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 966	Posted - 2014.01.18 14:45:00 - [16] - Quote VonSpliff wrote: Everyone in this thread is out of their minds. The SR assault is just fine. And it does recoil. I'm tired of people with no Sp into an item making rash accusations. It's probably the only weapon that can compete with the RR's range and the CR's rpm. Put some sp into it ! Now the AR is completely worthless. The pattern is F'd and the range is obsolete. The duvolle should have the gek's pattern and a few more meters and then the sp into them would be worth while. I know they had their time in the sun but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of merc's are spec'd into it. "Long live the Empress, unless you got some isk" Do a test, get the ASCR and aim at a specific point on a wall, preferably a different coloured bit or similar. Now pull the trigger and don't move the controls, notice how the image of the rifle moves up but the shots land exactly where you first aimed. It's probably a bug but it leads to ASCR having no recoil that affects the shooting. DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
VonSpliff 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 28	Posted - 2014.01.18 14:58:00 - [17] - Quote [/quote]Do a test, get the ASCR and aim at a specific point on a wall, preferably a different coloured bit or similar. Now pull the trigger and don't move the controls, notice how the image of the rifle moves up but the shots land exactly where you first aimed. It's probably a bug but it leads to ASCR having no recoil that affects the shooting.[/quote] I have a lot recently and the longer you hold it the higher the bullets climb. Hence the reason I burst it unless, cqc. I can't record or I would show you. But yes there was a time when the animation was a lie and your bullet stayed straight but that's no longer the case. But I do feel in hip fire, the auto-aim will keep the barrel down longer on target. I put the SR down for a while but recently been using it because the AR is sh!t. And refuse to spec another weapon just to get pooped on later. So if you are currently spec'd SR have no fear they work just fine. Hell I believe they might have even improved damage to armor. "Long live the Empress, unless you have some isk" "Long live the Empress, unless you have some isk"
Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2926	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:09:00 - [18] - Quote VonSpliff wrote: Everyone in this thread is out of their minds. The SR assault is just fine. And it does recoil. I'm tired of people with no Sp into an item making rash accusations. It's probably the only weapon that can compete with the RR's range and the CR's rpm. Put some sp into it ! Now the AR is completely worthless. The pattern is F'd and the range is obsolete. The duvolle should have the gek's pattern and a few more meters and then the sp into them would be worth while. I know they had their time in the sun but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of merc's are spec'd into it. "Long live the Empress, unless you got some isk" Bro, Proto Scramblers and proficiency V in them, I know how they work...all variants. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 52	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:39:00 - [19] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Reference the link AScR is terribad I feel like there has been no change between then and now with the AsCR. It still is pretty weak feeling, and no matter if I burst it or go full auto, this thing even struggles against medium frames in CQ. IDK what, but something still feels very off about this weapon...normal SCR is still God mode though. The scram rifle is similar to how the TAC AR used to be. People cried foul and the TAC AR was nerfed almost into oblivion. However lets look, the scram rifle has a charge mechanic - giving much improved damage per round should you want it. It has like twice the size of the clip that the tac ever had while still giving the same or very similar damage. And can be spammed at a very fast RoF with that huge clip size. Yet this is balanced? It makes me laugh the way this game goes about 'balance'. Scram rifle drawbacks are heat mechanic which is somewhat restricting on most suits but on the Amarr GOD suit it really can be pushed past any such limits. Also it has a little bit less range than the TAC. The rail rifle is a long range weapon with good damage and tremendous range (Even out performing the TAC AR for range I would say - but that is untested yet) and its only down side is a very short charging time. The RR is a long range weapon that has very little in the way of downsides when used in CQC. lol balance!
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 128	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:44:00 - [20] - Quote the crd is naughty up close and personal

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