Sabotage is the Minmatar domain.

Here I am, trying to come up with something for my sworn enemy to be proud of.

Suggestions I'd like:
- ~10-15 hp armor bonus per level.
OR:
- 5% bonus to the efficacy of armor plates per level.
OR:
- A bonus to cloaking. Can't say in which way because I have no idea how cloaking is going to work.

Alternatively:
- current stamina bonus AND 5% bonus to passive scan range per level (notice the lack of profile dampening or precision enhancement)

My vision for the Amarr Scout is that it should be the one suit best suited for a straight up fight. It doesn't have the ehp a medium suit has, but instead relies on either cloaking or passive scanning (at a low precision) to get the drop on whatever it hunts. Once the opening blow has been dealt with a charged Scrambler Rifle shot and the victim is at half health the Amarr Scout has the ehp to see the fight through to the end. If the victim had had a good scanner it would've seen the threat coming.

Example fitting for an Amarr Scout: (slot layout of the proto suit, adapt as necessary)
High slots:
- 2x damage mod
Low slots:
- 2x ferroscale plates
- 2x scan range extender
Light weapon:
- Scrambler Rifle
Eq:
- Any mixture or drop uplink, cloaking device, nanohives or remote explosives

Corrected. You're welcome.

Not that I demand a cloak bonus, but it shouldn't be off the table. One could argue that the Amarr suit would profit the most from cloaking due to it's lack of mobility. It's lack of scan precision, scan range and scan profile reduction also call for an alternative means of stealth than scanning.

I like you, you understand the Amarr.

...To me, the Scout role has always been about creating a disruptive force on the battlefield. HeGÇÖs the guy that can cover enough ground quickly enough to get drop uplinks into the right places (that is, if everyone didnGÇÖt carry one, but more on that later), hack objectives back, disperse squad members (nothing makes people scatter faster than a KC-amped shotgunner) and generally make a nuisance of himself.

The Scout role will get very high PG/CPU bonuses to fitting cloak equipment, making it just about the only role that can feasibly fit a cloak field without having to sacrifice the rest of its fit. Individual race skill bonuses will create opportunities for cloaked scouts to scan further and longer than other dropsuits, to have less GÇ£shimmerGÇ¥ as they move, and have lower innate scan profiles so that they can be visually and electronically invisible. These should help create more useful assassins, intel gatherers, and saboteurs.

What you fail to see is that every amarr suit in the game has something to make it lean towards a more combative role on the field.

The logi gets a side-arm
The assaults heat reduction bonus
The heavy's two high slot that will most certainly be used for damage mods

It shouldn't just stop there with the scout.

Carrying as much ammo as possible without dropping supply hives that reveal your position is a good idea. There will be enough slots for armor repair but some innate armor repair would not be overpowered.

Give them +20% stamina regeneration and +10 scrambler pistol rounds of maximum ammo per level. They can then have the equivalent of a complex green bottle, which I think most agree is fair, and 50 extra shots per pistol that is carried for long term operations. Add in 1 HP/s of armor repair to give them the only self-repairing Amarr suit on the field. They'll have two slots for equipment so they can still bring uplinks along with their cloak or whatever else suits their fancy.

I'm personally swinging towards the original cloak ability and the current stamina bonus.

Minmatar Scout here.

I approve of this.

In my head, the Amarr is supposed to be tough and inevitable. I will sprint at almost 10.38m/s, but I have very little stamina.

The Amarr scout will have MUCH more eHP and will always be hunting me. Eventually, I will have to turn and fight. I better have an ambush ready, cause there is no way my 350 eHP suit will be able to take you on in a head on fight.

I applaud all contributors to this thread for a good debate and constructive comments. If this doesn't kick off some discussion between the CPM and CCP I'll be very disappointed. Only CCP knows where this will end but I'm hoping this will make the scout war between the Minmatar and the Amarr a good one.

The logi uplink bonus increases the efficiency of uplinks, which is good for allowing a force to assault from the front lines, but the scouts bonus would allow for a multi man flanking attack for which no one knows where it is coming from.

I don't think so. If i were coding the game code, I wouldn't add a new value type to the class drop uplink, but instead have the bonus function independent of the actual drop uplink's class, as it currently (i don't believe) does not have a scan profile, using basic if statements to relate the level to active scanner db, and if it passed the db testing, prevent the uplink from going into the scanning output function. Its a really basic addition of code, probably less than 100 lines even.

Also, none of the scouts new bonuses are really focused on combat, but this is an arguable point, and i would like to avoid an argument at the moment. Also, one of the scout's most important roles is to run drop uplinks, which pairs perfectly with the amarr's superb stamina for covering long distances. None of the scouts should get a combat oriented bonus, and the closest to combat orientation would be bonuses to allow for easier ambushing and assassination, which the other scouts roles do allow. But, in my opinion, the amarr is not a race focused on hit and run tactics and ambushes and assassinations. Therefore, the cloaked uplink bonus.