DUST Search - [Suggestion] - Take Prototype Out of Pub Matches

Talos Alomar wrote:

I see this post every now and then. But one thing always comes to mind. How do you define "proto"?

Is it just the weapons and suits you're looking to remove from pub matches? Or is it any item that takes level V in a skill? Could I still put a complex damage mod on a standard weapon or would that still be too powerful?

Then when you factor in actually enforcing the rule it comes to a convoluted clusterfuck of code that needs to get added to the game.

It won't really help too much either. You'd still have some people grinding out their SP in advanced gear with prof v and maxxed core skills dominating anyway. I stress 'some' because if this went through you'd have many people saying "**** this, I'm not grinding out SP in bad gear" and then just quit. This wouldn't force more people to PC, it would just force them out of the game.

Everything said and done adding gear restrictions to matches can't be just as simple as flipping a switch and CCP is too busy so I'd say there is about 0 chance of this happening.


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Dericha A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 6	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:29:00 - [1] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: I see this post every now and then. But one thing always comes to mind. How do you define "proto"? Is it just the weapons and suits you're looking to remove from pub matches? Or is it any item that takes level V in a skill? Could I still put a complex damage mod on a standard weapon or would that still be too powerful? Then when you factor in actually enforcing the rule it comes to a convoluted clusterfuck of code that needs to get added to the game. It won't really help too much either. You'd still have some people grinding out their SP in advanced gear with prof v and maxxed core skills dominating anyway. I stress 'some' because if this went through you'd have many people saying "**** this, I'm not grinding out SP in bad gear" and then just quit. This wouldn't force more people to PC, it would just force them out of the game. Everything said and done adding gear restrictions to matches can't be just as simple as flipping a switch and CCP is too busy so I'd say there is about 0 chance of this happening. Right. Core skills are underrated and someone with 15M SP in BPOs will crush new players in a militia only battle mode. I personally hate protostomping in pub matches, but I'm not sure keeping out proto will help. Teamwork is more important and CCP needs to find a way to instill that with new players quickly. 3 militia ARs will shred a proto suit. The worst pub matches I see are the ones where no one works together. Those are the ones where my support logi goes 5/7 with 600 WP, I'm 3rd on the list, and perpetually being spawn camped or shot in the back. And I want to break my controller. It's lack of teamwork, not OMG PROTO. The guys with teamwork are camping the spawns whatever their gear. With 2 good teammates and less getting shot in the back, I'm going KD 2.0 and 2000 WP. PCs, which have the best teamwork, are 3000 WP 2 death games. As an aside, this is also why I'm excited for 1.8's rumored changes, though I may not stay logi (scanbot?, no thanks). With Commandos being the new DD and thus less giggly assault guys and more armor for Logis, roles are much better defined. Greater incentive for teamwork. The "rep me while I run solo into open space" players will continue to be frustrated.