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Evolution-7
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:27:00 -
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Discuss!
I personally think they should.
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4015
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:29:00 -
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So a 10% bonus to rate of fire isn't good enough for you?
TTK is low enough as it is.
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
192
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:31:00 -
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Evolution-7 wrote:Discuss!
I personally think they should.
Nope.
If you need additional ammo or drop uplink contact your local logistics or scout department. |
richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
654
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:31:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:So a 10% bonus to rate of fire isn't good enough for you?
TTK is low enough as it is.
Pwese expwain how wit wood Efect TTK?
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NobIesse Oblige
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
38
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:32:00 -
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NO.
Logi's and scouts should be the only ones with more than one equip.
Assaults should get more ehp than all but heavies, should be faster than all but scouts, and have a sidearm to smack someone when the ammo runs out and there's no time to reload.
No making assaults into logi's...
IF CCP are idiots and decide to test this out though in the interest of "**** let's just toss this in and try it again" then they need to make it one racial varient and that race should take a hit on other slots and speed compared to other assaults. Similar to the Ammar logi that crosses into the assault but is slower than other logi's and doesn't get quite the same slot count.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
469
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:33:00 -
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I don't see the reason for this, with their new bonusses they will do what they are supoosed to do beeing a frontline soldier. You have to consider that unlike scouts assault should attack in a team with logi support. The scout on the oher hand should focus on operations behind enemy lines and need to be more independent from support than the other suits... |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
909
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:34:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:So a 10% bonus to rate of fire isn't good enough for you?
TTK is low enough as it is.
o,o To be fair, we're better off with an Ammo bonus or something instead of RoF since not all weapons can have their "RoF" affected.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4015
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:35:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:So a 10% bonus to rate of fire isn't good enough for you?
TTK is low enough as it is. Pwese expwain how wit wood Efect TTK?
Putting out more bullets in a shorter time = putting out more damage
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
2899
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:36:00 -
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You're assault, not a logi - only scouts and logis should have more than one equipment slot.
Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
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Evolution-7
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
310
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:38:00 -
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Maybe at just prototype level? mwaybeee?
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
291
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:39:00 -
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Evolution-7 wrote:Discuss!
I personally think they should.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1732257#post1732257
No they shouldn't but they should receive bonuses on their weaponery and damagers.
Not Raw bonuses like "DAMAAAAGE" but subtle bonuses. |
richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
654
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:41:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:So a 10% bonus to rate of fire isn't good enough for you?
TTK is low enough as it is. Pwese expwain how wit wood Efect TTK? Putting out more bullets in a shorter time = putting out more damage
How does an extra equipment slot affect TTK?
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2698
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:44:00 -
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The Scouts are already trying to steal our jobs with two equipment slots.
People complained about Logis being better at assaulting than the Assault suit, and now you want to flip that and make Assault suits better for front line Logi work than the Logi suit. Figures. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
979
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:44:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:So a 10% bonus to rate of fire isn't good enough for you?
TTK is low enough as it is. Pwese expwain how wit wood Efect TTK? Putting out more bullets in a shorter time = putting out more damage How does an extra equipment slot affect TTK?
Im pretty sure they are talking about what you are getting or have and how it will show that you don't need a 2nd equipment slot.
Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs.
Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require)
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1585
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:45:00 -
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No your getting tank/gank/speed and now you want to be a Logi? |
Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
283
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:45:00 -
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yeeeaaaah. NO. |
Zimander
Tickle My Null-Sac
25
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:46:00 -
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Evolution-7 wrote:Discuss!
I personally think they should.
EDIT: How about just at prototype?
If you add second equipment to assault there be no need for logi |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5607
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:47:00 -
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As an assault I say this: No
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
4534
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:49:00 -
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Lolno, Scouts just got seperated from being weaker assaults, and now you want to undo all that work CCP has done.
Why does an Assault need two Equips anyway?
Knight Soiaire for SeePeeEm -1
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4017
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:49:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:How does an extra equipment slot affect TTK?
I wasn't talking about equipment, I was saying that since Assaults are already getting a 10% bonus to rate of fire, TTK is going to decrease even more.
You don't need an extra equipment and the ROF increase.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8131
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:51:00 -
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AW HEEEELLLLL NO!
But basic medium frames should get a 2nd equipment, and be between assaults and logis. More on basic frames here.
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3685
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:55:00 -
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Evolution-7 wrote:Discuss!
I personally think they should.
EDIT: How about just at prototype?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
NO.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2009
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:57:00 -
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Skihids wrote:The Scouts are already trying to steal our jobs with two equipment slots.
People complained about Logis being better at assaulting than the Assault suit, and now you want to flip that and make Assault suits better for front line Logi work than the Logi suit. Figures.
Na, it's for cloaks and scanners. I doubt you will see scouts being mini Logis.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1575
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:04:00 -
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And here is an example of all of the Combat Logi's who will be respeccing into Assault to retain their combat effectiveness.......and then basically asking for Logi benefits anyways.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
971
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:14:00 -
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Skihids wrote:The Scouts are already trying to steal our jobs with two equipment slots.
People complained about Logis being better at assaulting than the Assault suit, and now you want to flip that and make Assault suits better for front line Logi work than the Logi suit. Figures.
*Decloaks*
No I'm not.
*throws RE and vanishes into the void*
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Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
384
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:19:00 -
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from a vets POV, back in the good days of dust, assaults had 2 equipment slots; and most ran assault, not b/c of that, but b/c at the time logi's were a POS. Now, logi's aren't a POS by any means.
I would say give assaults their 2nd equip slot back (at proto level only as it doesn't hinder logi's usefulness at all (as most cases, assault would run hives and something else... leaving logis w/ reper's, uplinks, scanners, etc...), it would simply allow for more customization and give the assult that threat back, as since 1.6 assaults have lost that threat they use to have |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2180
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:29:00 -
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Very simple, NO and here's why.
In beta a squad of assault with their 2 equipment did it better than a squad with a logi. Logis generally run slower than an assault as well. We don't need logis being a 'fun' Only class again.
Ccp didn't remove that extra equipment from assaults for fun, ^ that is why they did.
Theres nothing to discuss.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2180
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:30:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:from a vets POV, back in the good days of dust, assaults had 2 equipment slots; and most ran assault, not b/c of that, but b/c at the time logi's were a POS. Now, logi's aren't a POS by any means.
I would say give assaults their 2nd equip slot back (at proto level only as it doesn't hinder logi's usefulness at all (as most cases, assault would run hives and something else... leaving logis w/ reper's, uplinks, scanners, etc...), it would simply allow for more customization and give the assult that threat back, as since 1.6 assaults have lost that threat they use to have
Hhhmmm, fair point.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1143
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:31:00 -
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Skihids wrote:The Scouts are already trying to steal our jobs with two equipment slots.
People complained about Logis being better at assaulting than the Assault suit, and now you want to flip that and make Assault suits better for front line Logi work than the Logi suit. Figures.
cloaking device and REs or hives and uplinks...
this will be a hard decision for any scout. oh wait no it's not, scouts don't wanna be logis, we're ninjas shhh I wasn't here!
*cloaks up
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout.
CLOSED BETA VET
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2180
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:32:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:And here is an example of all of the Combat Logi's who will be respeccing into Assault to retain their combat effectiveness.......and then basically asking for Logi benefits anyways.
I have proto min and cal assault on this char with my proto amarr logi so this wouldn't bother me that much but for the sake of role definition no, theres not enough of that as it is I think.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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