Hello there i would like to bring some attention to remote explosives. In games like Battlefield you can run up to a tank and put multiple C4's really quickly onto it. On dust however this takes too much time. This is mainly due to the fact that the animation for throwing the remote explosive is too slow. Then we have aswell a penalty on quickly deploying them cause after you placed 1 down you have to "reload" it to throw another 1. The time delay on both needs to be drastically reduced in order to make scout suit a viable AV suit.

I don't think that the deployment speed of REs is too slow, however, I think the arming speed is too slow.

When you throw an RE, if you throw it and immediately press the detonate button, nothing happens, until you press it a second time a few seconds later.

Very frustrating.

I don't think that the deployment speed of REs is too slow, however, I think the arming speed is too slow.

When you throw an RE, if you throw it and immediately press the detonate button, nothing happens, until you press it a second time a few seconds later.

Very frustrating.

I don't think that the deployment speed of REs is too slow, however, I think the arming speed is too slow.

When you throw an RE, if you throw it and immediately press the detonate button, nothing happens, until you press it a second time a few seconds later.

Very frustrating.

That's the bonus to spending SP into RE's, the F/45 has a faster arm speed, you can throw one down and by the time you get out of the blast zone (Back step just a little, maybe 1.5 sec) they are ready to detonate.
The reload time could be a little faster, because having to reload before you can detonate is a stupid function that only appeared after they changed the stats on RE's a few patches ago.
They need to look at the boundless again as it states in the description that it has a larger blast radius, but when you look at the actual stats, all RE's are the same radius and damage, the only benefit being that the higher tier ones arm faster and you can carry/throw more out.

The damage should go up as you go up in tiers, or at least it should go up to 2000 at proto level, especially with the new suit bonuses having resistances to explosion damage. Grenades of all types damage goes up as you go from basic->adv->proto, why not RE's?

Cant expect standard RE's to do everything the higher tier ones do, that's like paying for a Pinto and expecting a Cadillac.




Dedicated RE user since precursor.

This didn't used to be the case, they changed how it functioned at some point - perhaps to keep it from being used as grenades in a battle. I forget the exact rationale, but it was in a patch note or something at some point.

Remember the flying Frisbee of death? When you could carry 5 RE's at standard lvl and detonate them before they hit the ground?
What I'm speaking about was the situation in Precursor, it was more effective to use RE's as a main and carry nano hives to restock, because of their damage, short arm time, and blast radius they were used more than grenades or any other weapon. That and we had fixed spawn locations and it was so easy to farm kills by standing a few feet back from the spawn location on a hive, throw 1 remote, wait for 3 to spawn, detonate, and repeat the process.
They changed that function with RE's and gave us limits, such as only being able to carry 3 at basic, 4 at adv, and 5 at proto. Adv had a faster arm rate, and proto had the fast arm rate and a higher blast radius. There was a reason to skill up to lvl 5 at this point.

After Chromosome, when we all got our "Final respec" they changed the blast radius to be the same cross the tiers, this eliminated any reason to actually go any higher than adv lvl RE's for the shorter arm time. A change was required, but they changed too much (As CCP usually does) and now even though its still kind of a niche for players who actually try to set traps and bait the enemy, in my opinion and I'm sure the opinion of other dedicated RE users that its not working to its full potential because there is no difference between adv and proto RE's, and it isn't even necessary anymore to spec any higher than lvl 1 (or 2 for the ridiculously underpowered proxy mines (Don't get me started on those pieces of junk)) because its just a SP and ISK sink beyond lvl 3.

I miss my boundless RE's with their 8m blast radius. They were great area denial weapons as one could place a RE in a corner of a hallway and wait till 2-4 reds ran just past it to kill them all.





Dedicated RE user since Precursor

Hello there i would like to bring some attention to remote explosives. In games like Battlefield you can run up to a tank and put multiple C4's really quickly onto it. On dust however this takes too much time. This is mainly due to the fact that the animation for throwing the remote explosive is too slow. Then we have aswell a penalty on quickly deploying them cause after you placed 1 down you have to "reload" it to throw another 1. The time delay on both needs to be drastically reduced in order to make scout suit a viable slayer suit.

This didn't used to be the case, they changed how it functioned at some point - perhaps to keep it from being used as grenades in a battle. I forget the exact rationale, but it was in a patch note or something at some point.

Hello there i would like to bring some attention to remote explosives. In games like Battlefield you can run up to a tank and put multiple C4's really quickly onto it. On dust however this takes too much time. This is mainly due to the fact that the animation for throwing the remote explosive is too slow. Then we have aswell a penalty on quickly deploying them cause after you placed 1 down you have to "reload" it to throw another 1. The time delay on both needs to be drastically reduced in order to make scout suit a viable AV suit.

The reason to go from ADV to PRO is for the extra active RE, which is good for AV work.

You can have 3 active REs at STD
4 at ADV
5 at PRO.

Madrugar/Soma with 900 shields and 4000 armor:
First RE does 1200 damage to the shields, only 900 of which is needed, leaving the extra 300 to do 360 against the armor.
Madrugar/Soma now has 0 shields and 3640 armor.
Second RE does 1800 damage against the armor.
Madrugar/Soma now has 0 shields and 1840 armor.
Third RE does 1800 damage against the armor.
Madrugar/Soma now has 0 shields and 40 armor. If you only had STD, the tank would live and drive off. If AVD, 4th RE would kill it.

Now, say the tank was hardened (-40% damage):
Madrugar/Soma with 900 shields and 4000 armor:
First RE does 1200 damage to the shields, only 900 of which is needed, leaving the extra 300 to do 216 against the armor.
Madrugar/Soma now has 0 shields and 3784 armor.
Second RE does 1080 damage against the armor.
Madrugar/Soma now has 0 shields and 2704 armor.
Third RE does 1080 damage against the armor.
Madrugar/Soma now has 0 shields and 1624 armor. If you only had STD, the tank would live and drive off.
Fourth RE does 1080 damage against the armor.
Madrugar/Soma now has 0 shields and 544 armor. If you only had ADV, the tank would live and drive off.
A fith RE will allow for the tank to die, even if hardened. Granted, you have to get all 5 on there. Also, a flux can let only 4 REs kill a hardened tank, but only if it has no plate. If there's a plate, you'll need the 5th.

I don't think that the deployment speed of REs is too slow, however, I think the arming speed is too slow.

When you throw an RE, if you throw it and immediately press the detonate button, nothing happens, until you press it a second time a few seconds later.

Very frustrating.