2-3% per level, to keep the amarr scout bonus in line with the other scout bonuses (1 basic mod/1complex mod). I think it would be awesome to see some dual pistol scouts causing mayhem on the field.

I'm still not sure why CCP thought the minmatar scout needed to have a higher base hacking speed than the other scouts. The amarr scout still has more hp, stamina/recovery, and cpu/pg than the other scouts.

The hacking one is easy, that's compensation for the loss of that bonus to the Minnie logi.

Actually, the damage bonus for the Minmatar is 2 x complex and 1 x enhanced but that's not my point here. The Minmatar Scout has the lowest buffer and will need 1 x enhanced shield extender to compete with the Gallente and Caldari or 1 x complex to compete with the Amarr. The Amarr has the best defensive buffer so I'd suggest adding one innate module for them and subtracting one from the Minmatar.

In the end the Amarr suit is still somewhat lacking in capability and the Minmatar has the most capability if it can survive long enough to do its mission.

Right, stacking penalty, but it is only at arm's length but cloaking should make that easier to apply.

I wish the speed bonus meant more. Strafing doesn't do much right now. Other than defenses I do agree the Minmatar has the strongest benefits right now and the Amarr has the weakest.

Also please drop this Minmatar complex damage bonus argument - its tied to one weapon.

If that was the only sidearm in the game then you might have a point.
- For knifers its great for the rest, not so much.

Tagged past tense, its been brought to my attention as well so incase of laspe Ill pick up for him.

My thoughts.

Overall the Minmatar is bonus is not that overblown, reason being I can shove a pistol on it and get no benefit, only the knives do So we're talking about a module that is going to only have 1/7th of the module's active effectiveness.

Also all scouts have innate hacking bonuses preinstalled, just minmatar are going to be the most obvious.

However do remember they are looking into nerfing the way damage mods work from outright reduction in percentages and further reducing the overall proficiency gains. NKs are likely to be least disturbed as they are a '5th' damage type that deals 100a/100s damage

As for amarr disparity it is a decent point to bring up, it may be grounds for a percent more or so, also there is no stacking penalty against this bonus, so the first module adds an unadulterated bonus. Where as the gallente trying to match would lose out on total effectiveness.

Be excessively careful who you want to discount because one can easily make fool of another. I just shot from the hip with gut feelings. Good thing I followed through.

Amarr AK.0 (x = invalid) (* First worst to most worst)

25% Stamina and 25% Regeneration Rate
1 Light (x)
1 Side (x)
1 Grenade (x)
2 Equipment (x)
2 High (***)
4 Low (*)
70 Grid (**)
340 CPU (***)

Armor 170 (*)
Armor Heal 0 (x)
Shields 60 (****)
Shield Delay 4 (**)
Full Delay 6 (***)
Shield Refresh 30 hp/s (***)

Hack Bonus 5% (**)

Max Stamina 225 (*)
Stamina Charge 40 sp/s (*)
TTSM = 5.6 Secs (*) (Gk.0 is at 6.666... ranking ***)
Ground Speed 525/40(this assumes UE3 conversions) = 13.125 meters/s (***) (which seems wrong but for sake of measuring shoe sizes the /40 is tangible measurement for our needs here )

With Bonuses Applied

Max Stamina 225*1.25 = 281.25
Stamina Charge = 50 sp/s
TTSM = 5.625

Throw in Biotics to V

Max Stamina 281.25*1.05 = 295.05
Stamina Charge = 52.5
TTSM = 5.62

vs the GK 0's
210
31.5
and 6.666...

Now lets throw car rads in, proto lvl 5 skills (10% bonus to the bonus yo)

First one on each
Complex Cardiac Regulator 110% Stamina 110% Recovery

Ak. 0
MS 619.605
SC 110.25
TTSM 5.62
GS 13.25 m/s

Gk. 0
MS 441
SC 66.15
TTSM 6.66
GS 13.625 m/s

Stamina is consumed 10 units per second while sprinting, running does not penalize regeneration, sprinting adds 40% more speed so

Ak. 0
13.25*1.4 = 18.55 Sprint speed
18.55*(619.605/10) = 1149.37 Meters covered per sprint or 1.15 kms
5.62 Seconds to max stamina the amarrian would cover 74.4 meters
Time is now 67.6 seconds with 1223.77 meters covered
So True M/S is 18.10 m/s

Gk. 0
13.625*1.4 = 19.075 Sprint Speed
19.075*(441/10) = 841.21 meters covered
6.66 second to max stamina the gallente would cover 90.74 meters
Time is now 60.7 seconds with only 931.95
So True M/S is 15.35 m/s

Feeling Sorry for the Gallente I threw in a Kin Kat

Complex at max level = 13.2% bonus
(13.625*1.132)*1.4 = 21.5929 spring speed whoohoo
952 meters covered
6.66 covers 102.72 meters
Time is 60.7 covering only 1054.72
True M/S is 17.375 m/s

The gallente would almost have to use 3/4 lot slots just to compete against a single card reg amarrian.

Also the other big thing that is probably going to bother everyone.
There are no sensor stats on the suit sheet either so we have no idea how those stats are distributed.

And now I just got asked to do the 5k run with everyone, bleh, wait one while I spread sheet fu this.

5% to stamina and 5% to stamina regen are two boni two stats are changed, regardless if there is a module that do the same for both stats. Not the module gets a boost the two base stats are changed. And this is true for all scouts as all scouts get a change to two base stats.

That modules do different things is another story...

About the value of the base stat I would say its up more to your preferences, there is no law in dust that says satmina is less valuable than scan profile.

So if you thing a bonus to profile dampening is more suited for your playstyle maybe the gallente scout is the right one for you. If you like to be more mobile and agile than maybe the amarr scout is the right one, if you want to run as mobile scanner maybe the caldari scout is the right for you.

Note I did not mind a small buff to Amarr boni, I just think it is in linewith the other boni as all give the same percantage of bonus to same amount of stats.

Thank you very much Magnus, I was working on a post like that as well because of how wrong IWS's statements were. I appreciate his work, but he should really double check before making such big claims.