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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12274	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:37:00 - [1] - Quote /This has been tagged by Kane CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12276	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:10:00 - [2] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: /This has been tagged by Kane Meaning it'll be presented by the CPM to be reviewed for further changes by CCP? Tagged past tense, its been brought to my attention as well so incase of laspe Ill pick up for him. My thoughts. Overall the Minmatar is bonus is not that overblown, reason being I can shove a pistol on it and get no benefit, only the knives do So we're talking about a module that is going to only have 1/7th of the module's active effectiveness. Also all scouts have innate hacking bonuses preinstalled, just minmatar are going to be the most obvious. However do remember they are looking into nerfing the way damage mods work from outright reduction in percentages and further reducing the overall proficiency gains. NKs are likely to be least disturbed as they are a '5th' damage type that deals 100a/100s damage As for amarr disparity it is a decent point to bring up, it may be grounds for a percent more or so, also there is no stacking penalty against this bonus, so the first module adds an unadulterated bonus. Where as the gallente trying to match would lose out on total effectiveness. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12359	Posted - 2014.01.20 15:23:00 - [3] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Please for the love of god IWS stay out of balancing discussions. Be excessively careful who you want to discount because one can easily make fool of another. I just shot from the hip with gut feelings. Good thing I followed through. Amarr AK.0 (x = invalid) (* First worst to most worst) 25% Stamina and 25% Regeneration Rate 1 Light (x) 1 Side (x) 1 Grenade (x) 2 Equipment (x) 2 High (**) 4 Low () 70 Grid () 340 CPU () Armor 170 () Armor Heal 0 (x) Shields 60 (**) Shield Delay 4 () Full Delay 6 (*) Shield Refresh 30 hp/s () Hack Bonus 5% () Max Stamina 225 () Stamina Charge 40 sp/s () TTSM = 5.6 Secs () (Gk.0 is at 6.666... ranking *) Ground Speed 525/40(this assumes UE3 conversions) = 13.125 meters/s () (which seems wrong but for sake of measuring shoe sizes the /40 is tangible measurement for our needs here ) With Bonuses Applied Max Stamina 2251.25 = 281.25 Stamina Charge = 50 sp/s TTSM = 5.625 Throw in Biotics to V Max Stamina 281.251.05 = 295.05 Stamina Charge = 52.5 TTSM = 5.62 vs the GK 0's 210 31.5 and 6.666... Now lets throw car rads in, proto lvl 5 skills (10% bonus to the bonus yo) First one on each Complex Cardiac Regulator 110% Stamina 110% Recovery Ak. 0 MS 619.605 SC 110.25 TTSM 5.62 GS 13.25 m/s Gk. 0 MS 441 SC 66.15 TTSM 6.66 GS 13.625 m/s Stamina is consumed 10 units per second while sprinting, running does not penalize regeneration, sprinting adds 40% more speed so Ak. 0 13.251.4 = 18.55 Sprint speed 18.55(619.605/10) = 1149.37 Meters covered per sprint or 1.15 kms 5.62 Seconds to max stamina the amarrian would cover 74.4 meters Time is now 67.6 seconds with 1223.77 meters covered So True M/S is 18.10 m/s* Gk. 0 13.6251.4 = 19.075 Sprint Speed 19.075(441/10) = 841.21 meters covered 6.66 second to max stamina the gallente would cover 90.74 meters Time is now 60.7 seconds with only 931.95 So Ture M/S is 15.35 m/s Feeling Sorry for the Gallente I threw in a Kin Kat Complex at max level = 13.2% bonus (13.6251.132)1.4 = 21.5929 spring speed whoohoo 952 meters covered 6.66 covers 102.72 meters Time is 60.7 covering only 1054.72 True M/S is 17.375 m/s The gallente would almost have to use 3/4 lot slots just to compete against a single card reg amarrian. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12363	Posted - 2014.01.20 16:12:00 - [4] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: @IWS Speed is speed listed divided by 100. For example the Amarr Scout is 525/100 = 5.25 m/s movement speed. Ah thank you. We had issues on which was what back when vehicles stats were released. it shouldn't change the overall disparity between the two. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

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