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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2014.01.17 20:17:00 -
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Those numbers are what they would be if the stacking penalty was working. So are you saying you got different numbers?
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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2014.01.17 20:56:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:
If you were to go for that math then yeah, it's working. But what's really happening it's that the bonuses themselves do not diminish when affecting the original value (in this case 2074).
2074 * 1.30 = 2696 (forgot to mention that HP had omitted decimals so the value will be a little different on a calc, OP values still legit) 2074 * 1.60 = 3318 2074 * 1.90 = 3940
Are you talking about how similar the values are when correct to what they would be when added together with no penalty? I can't think of a better way to explain that but If that's what you are talking about then it's just a quirk with the math. There's a few odd patterns you can find in the numbers when using percentages that are multiples of 15.
Pokey Dravon wrote:I may be wrong but values *should* be multiplicative.
Regardless something isn't working properly.. I think what isn't working is my ability to understand what's going on here.
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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:07:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Similar thing is also happening for dropsuits but not as bad as vehicles.
Allotek Plasma Cannon vs Shields - 1271 1 dmg mod 1397 2 dmg mod 1518 3 dmg mod 1605
In stacking effect it's working properly but if we were to treat it as something affecting original value we get this:
1 dmg mod - 1397/1271 = 1.0991 difference (again, HP decimals are ommited on in-game UI) 2 dmg mod - 1518/1271 = 1.1943 difference (if it was stacking penalty as some of us thought then it should've been 1.187) 3 dmg mod - 1605/1271 = 1.2628 difference No, it wouldn't be 1.187.
( 1 + .1 ) * ( 1 + ( .1 * .87 ) = 1.1957
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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:30:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote: Just checked EVE and now I feel like an idiot -.- Still, how is it ok for the dmg mods to hardly receive any real penalty? :l
That's actually the real issue for most people that complain about OP damage mods. CCP should really look at changing the stacking penalty because it just doesn't work in DUST.
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