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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3645
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:08:00 -
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So i'll make it myself. I Never WANTED to be a MINMATAR scout. I wanted to be an Amarr scout. But i wanted to be a scout so bad, and i couldnt just wait the year + the game has been running around... and had to spend a LOT of SP in MIN SCOUTS that i wont EVER use again after amarr scouts come.
So can i get a full SP respec?
OR AT LEAST ALL of my DROP SUITS SP refunded so i can Spec into the Suits i actually want?
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2916
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:12:00 -
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Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Horizen Kenpachi
duna corp
98
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:50:00 -
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I agree that once basic racial varity is here the final full respec should be implemented it makes it so fun changing up paths, it freshens the dust experience and people can flesh out racial dreams. Only after full vehicle realase ps feel free to lafffff at my spelling
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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TheWee BabySeamus
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
87
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:52:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:So i'll make it myself. I Never WANTED to be a MINMATAR scout. I wanted to be an Amarr scout. But i wanted to be a scout so bad, and i couldnt just wait the year + the game has been running around... and had to spend a LOT of SP in MIN SCOUTS that i wont EVER use again after amarr scouts come.
So can i get a full SP respec?
OR AT LEAST ALL of my DROP SUITS SP refunded so i can Spec into the Suits i actually want? My thoughts exactly, except with the awful heavy suits. Amarr heavy is LOL
Wee Baby Seamus-------------->DDB Director & #1 Sex chat operator
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
855
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:55:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:So i'll make it myself. I Never WANTED to be a MINMATAR scout. I wanted to be an Amarr scout. But i wanted to be a scout so bad, and i couldnt just wait the year + the game has been running around... and had to spend a LOT of SP in MIN SCOUTS that i wont EVER use again after amarr scouts come.
So can i get a full SP respec?
OR AT LEAST ALL of my DROP SUITS SP refunded so i can Spec into the Suits i actually want?
Use This. |
TheWee BabySeamus
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
87
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:57:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:So i'll make it myself. I Never WANTED to be a MINMATAR scout. I wanted to be an Amarr scout. But i wanted to be a scout so bad, and i couldnt just wait the year + the game has been running around... and had to spend a LOT of SP in MIN SCOUTS that i wont EVER use again after amarr scouts come.
So can i get a full SP respec?
OR AT LEAST ALL of my DROP SUITS SP refunded so i can Spec into the Suits i actually want? Use This. Do they have those in cherry flavor??? i'm a sucker for cherry.
Wee Baby Seamus-------------->DDB Director & #1 Sex chat operator
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3649
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:58:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:So i'll make it myself. I Never WANTED to be a MINMATAR scout. I wanted to be an Amarr scout. But i wanted to be a scout so bad, and i couldnt just wait the year + the game has been running around... and had to spend a LOT of SP in MIN SCOUTS that i wont EVER use again after amarr scouts come.
So can i get a full SP respec?
OR AT LEAST ALL of my DROP SUITS SP refunded so i can Spec into the Suits i actually want? Use This.
Thats the reason you are like Mondays, Bethy... ;)
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
855
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:02:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bethhy wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:So i'll make it myself. I Never WANTED to be a MINMATAR scout. I wanted to be an Amarr scout. But i wanted to be a scout so bad, and i couldnt just wait the year + the game has been running around... and had to spend a LOT of SP in MIN SCOUTS that i wont EVER use again after amarr scouts come.
So can i get a full SP respec?
OR AT LEAST ALL of my DROP SUITS SP refunded so i can Spec into the Suits i actually want? Use This. Thats the reason you are like Mondays, Bethy... ;)
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
10074
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:02:00 -
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Can't wait to ditch my fat suit, max out my Incubus, and go back to my beautiful shotgun scout.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3652
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:04:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bethhy wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:So i'll make it myself. I Never WANTED to be a MINMATAR scout. I wanted to be an Amarr scout. But i wanted to be a scout so bad, and i couldnt just wait the year + the game has been running around... and had to spend a LOT of SP in MIN SCOUTS that i wont EVER use again after amarr scouts come.
So can i get a full SP respec?
OR AT LEAST ALL of my DROP SUITS SP refunded so i can Spec into the Suits i actually want? Use This. Thats the reason you are like Mondays, Bethy... ;) Tell me why?
Because of your superiority complex and Un-useful posts.
now HTFU plis.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
855
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:08:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bethhy wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bethhy wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:So i'll make it myself. I Never WANTED to be a MINMATAR scout. I wanted to be an Amarr scout. But i wanted to be a scout so bad, and i couldnt just wait the year + the game has been running around... and had to spend a LOT of SP in MIN SCOUTS that i wont EVER use again after amarr scouts come.
So can i get a full SP respec?
OR AT LEAST ALL of my DROP SUITS SP refunded so i can Spec into the Suits i actually want? Use This. Thats the reason you are like Mondays, Bethy... ;) Tell me why? Because of your superiority complex and Un-useful posts.
now HTFU plis.
if you name one patch you haven't asked for a respec i would take you serious lol.... EVERY single patch lol....
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Rusty Shallows
809
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:08:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:NO RESPEC THREAD ON THE 1st PAGE? this cannot be... So i'll make it myself. Your blatant cruelty is amusing. These posts always set some people off.
However you're right to post this King. For good or ill the Devs are more likely to deal with things when relentlessly hounded.
MCC Lounge Lizard
Forums > Game
Fix the game CCP
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3655
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:11:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:
if you name one patch you haven't asked for a respec i would take you serious lol.... EVERY single patch lol....
After Uprising came? and i wasted a lot of SP due to mistakes? Every single one i think.
Plus, i REALLY dont care if you take me seriously or not. And again,you are not adding anything to the thread...
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
855
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:37:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bethhy wrote:
if you name one patch you haven't asked for a respec i would take you serious lol.... EVERY single patch lol....
After Uprising came? and i wasted a lot of SP due to mistakes? Every single one i think.Plus, i REALLY dont care if you take me seriously or not. And again,you are not adding anything to the thread...
So one more respec and everything will be perfect. until the next patch or if you make a mistake. then you want another? or.. what if they add an entire new class and you REALLY meant to be that class instead...
I think you know the arguments better then anyone hosting probably 50 of these threads now. New suits, weapons, vehicles, equipment and modules should be leveled into... we have had 8 months of DUST without racial variants and will still not have all the racial variants of stuff for along time.
Combat and Rail rifle coming and out people saving and skilling into it, having one or both near maxed out first day with saved SP, should be more then enough of an example. CCP may tweak and balance and change anything depending on whims and what they feel may improve their game. The Skills points we invest and thus skills are our history in DUST. Some of us have maxed out alot of different aspect's of DUST that are no longer relevant to the same extent, never means they are useless or will never have use based on what changed them in the first place.
That is our history of our character, you want a character option that has close to no mistakes with skills? start a new one or start a separate PSN and use the knowledge and experience you have gained to build that perfect mercenary in his specialized role. But Respecializing King Checkmate? because you made mistakes allocating skills(We all did to some extent) the 8 months we haven't had racial variants in one aspect of DUST hasn't made the ISK and Skill points you acquired with those skills any less valueable. Nothing will be the same in DUST forever and there will always be new stuff comming out. We have more then enough time to get SP and everyone progress naturally there. Not respecialize your character every time something new and shinny comes out. |
KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3657
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:44:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bethhy wrote:
if you name one patch you haven't asked for a respec i would take you serious lol.... EVERY single patch lol....
After Uprising came? and i wasted a lot of SP due to mistakes? Every single one i think.Plus, i REALLY dont care if you take me seriously or not. And again,you are not adding anything to the thread... So one more respec and everything will be perfect. until the next patch or if you make a mistake. then you want another? or.. what if they add an entire new class and you REALLY meant to be that class instead... I think you know the arguments better then anyone hosting probably 50 of these threads now. New suits, weapons, vehicles, equipment and modules should be leveled into... we have had 8 months of DUST without racial variants and will still not have all the racial variants of stuff for along time. Combat and Rail rifle coming and out people saving and skilling into it, having one or both near maxed out first day with saved SP, should be more then enough of an example. CCP may tweak and balance and change anything depending on whims and what they feel may improve their game. The Skills points we invest and thus skills are our history in DUST. Some of us have maxed out alot of different aspect's of DUST that are no longer relevant to the same extent, never means they are useless or will never have use based on what changed them in the first place. That is our history of our character, you want a character option that has close to no mistakes with skills? start a new one or start a separate PSN and use the knowledge and experience you have gained to build that perfect mercenary in his specialized role. But Respecializing King Checkmate? because you made mistakes allocating skills(We all did to some extent) the 8 months we haven't had racial variants in one aspect of DUST hasn't made the ISK and Skill points you acquired with those skills any less valueable. Nothing will be the same in DUST forever and there will always be new stuff comming out. We have more then enough time to get SP and everyone progress naturally there. Not respecialize your character every time something new and shinny comes out.
I know the arguments from both sides REALLY well Bethy. Doesnt change the fact i want to relocate my Wasted Dropsuit SP in what i really wantto play. Its not ''NEW content'',its content that should have been out for a long time. I think all the classes being out merits AT LEAST a dropsuit SP respec. Your points even if valid,dont change my stance....
Nor do they change the stance of many other players WANTING a respec.
Lets say -+ of the players want/need a respec? then if you DONT give them out many players will be troubled in different ways by this,causing MORE player loss, more customer in-satisfaction..
If you DO give us a respec, then the -+ that needs them will be happy,and the other -+ that were against it stand unaffected.
Win win situation...
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
857
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bethhy wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bethhy wrote:
if you name one patch you haven't asked for a respec i would take you serious lol.... EVERY single patch lol....
After Uprising came? and i wasted a lot of SP due to mistakes? Every single one i think.Plus, i REALLY dont care if you take me seriously or not. And again,you are not adding anything to the thread... So one more respec and everything will be perfect. until the next patch or if you make a mistake. then you want another? or.. what if they add an entire new class and you REALLY meant to be that class instead... I think you know the arguments better then anyone hosting probably 50 of these threads now. New suits, weapons, vehicles, equipment and modules should be leveled into... we have had 8 months of DUST without racial variants and will still not have all the racial variants of stuff for along time. Combat and Rail rifle coming and out people saving and skilling into it, having one or both near maxed out first day with saved SP, should be more then enough of an example. CCP may tweak and balance and change anything depending on whims and what they feel may improve their game. The Skills points we invest and thus skills are our history in DUST. Some of us have maxed out alot of different aspect's of DUST that are no longer relevant to the same extent, never means they are useless or will never have use based on what changed them in the first place. That is our history of our character, you want a character option that has close to no mistakes with skills? start a new one or start a separate PSN and use the knowledge and experience you have gained to build that perfect mercenary in his specialized role. But Respecializing King Checkmate? because you made mistakes allocating skills(We all did to some extent) the 8 months we haven't had racial variants in one aspect of DUST hasn't made the ISK and Skill points you acquired with those skills any less valueable. Nothing will be the same in DUST forever and there will always be new stuff comming out. We have more then enough time to get SP and everyone progress naturally there. Not respecialize your character every time something new and shinny comes out. I know the arguments from both sides REALLY well Bethy. Doesnt change the fact i want to relocate my Wasted Dropsuit SP in what i really wantto play. Its not ''NEW content'',its content that should have been out for a long time. I think all the classes being out merits AT LEAST a dropsuit SP respec. Your points even if valid,dont change my stance....
Nor do they change the stance of many other players WANTING a respec.
Lets say -+ of the players want/need a respec? then if you DONT give them out many players will be troubled in different ways by this,causing MORE player loss, more customer in-satisfaction..
If you DO give us a respec, then the -+ that needs them will be happy,and the other -+ that were against it stand unaffected.
Win win situation...
we have persistent core mechanic issues for 2 years and a respecialization is why CCP is loosing players?
Yet again 8 months have passed since you said the racial scout and heavy variants "should" have been out... at some point CCP is human and set their bar way to high.. and this is "new" content much like the Combat and Rail Rifle, that everyone could naturally progress into, Buy boosters... Save SP, Cap out in the 3x SP event.. Use Aurum items until Skill points have been saved.
Some people wants everything handed to them, specially when they see a Earned Spent Skill point =/= New Skill.
Most are fine with living with their mistakes, and then saving for new items and dropsuits. and anyone without prejudice could be victim of a rebalance or tweak or content addition that will render their playstyle and some skills less useful or make them different... This has been part of games that get continous content additions since internet gaming started. I Understand a majority of console games haven't had this without a "bought" expansion pack justifying it... but here we are alas a CCP product on the ps3.
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Cpt Merdock
The Exemplars Top Men.
174
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Posted - 2014.01.17 02:18:00 -
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its all about the grind...its why this is considered an MMO before a shooter right? Not to be a **** or anything but "Monday" is correct on this one.
If they change things such as SP required to get a suit, or the whole dynamic of a suit and not just the little 5% bonuses per level. (Example: Slot layout, base HP, Movement speed etc.) Then yes a Skill Refund should be given to the specific field changed...in this case its suits so only Dropsuit Command should be refunded. So far I only see them adding things, and maybe changing the bonuses to each suit so its not really enough to justify a refund of your skill points. Welcome to Dust...adapt or die.
On a side note...this thread, along with many others are prime examples as to why CCP probably doesnt release content early. |
KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3660
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Posted - 2014.01.17 02:33:00 -
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Cpt Merdock wrote:its all about the grind...its why this is considered an MMO before a shooter right? Not to be a **** or anything but "Monday" is correct on this one.
If they change things such as SP required to get a suit, or the whole dynamic of a suit and not just the little 5% bonuses per level. (Example: Slot layout, base HP, Movement speed etc.) Then yes a Skill Refund should be given to the specific field changed...in this case its suits so only Dropsuit Command should be refunded. So far I only see them adding things, and maybe changing the bonuses to each suit so its not really enough to justify a refund of your skill points. Welcome to Dust...adapt or die.
On a side note...this thread, along with many others are prime examples as to why CCP probably doesnt release content early.
'' So far I only see them adding things, and maybe changing the bonuses to each suit so its not really enough to justify a refund of your skill points''
NOT REALLY ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY A REFUND? Most of the SP spent by ANY character spins around these bonuses!!!!!
Example: I have my Amarr assault so i can use my SCR. WITHOUT the Heat buildup bonus there really isnt a reason for me to use the A.Assault, when caldari or Minmatar Dropsuits fit my Playstyle more.
So yeah,they are BIG changes. They DO deserve a respec. Between these ''bonus changes '' and AV nerfs ,scouts sucking, even if i have 23million SP i wont be able to put together a single useful fit.
@ Bethy. Its not NEW content. They owe us these from a long time ago,everybody knew they ere coming,and we even got the concept art for all of them. And if CCP is human and can make mistakes,like setting the bar too high, so can i at making a mistake with my SP. If CCP deserves a breather, so do the players that pay CCP...
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
69
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Posted - 2014.01.17 02:37:00 -
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I don't expect a SP Refund, nor do I think it would seriously help anyone. It seems CCP wants to do this piecemeal, meaning scouts and heavies for 1.8. What?
Are we supposed to get another one when they bring back Vehicle Role specializations, and Amarr/Minmatar vehicles?
How about when we are at that time of 100% promised content and they start introducing MMO mechanics. Will I see people clamoring for a SP Refund so they can get out of the infantry and pursue the introduced Trade/Resource Production/Planetary Infrastructure trees that have yet to be announced?
SighGǪprobablyGǪ
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
859
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Posted - 2014.01.17 02:40:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
@ Bethy. Its not NEW content. They owe us these from a long time ago,everybody knew they ere coming,and we even got the concept art for all of them. And if CCP is human and can make mistakes,like setting the bar too high, so can i at making a mistake with my SP. If CCP deserves a breather, so do the players that pay CCP...[/b]
You really need to watch what DUST 514 really was like 5 years ago? ... For you they owe Amarr scouts.. for some they owe fighters...
It does't make sense "They owe us"
Making mistakes is half the fun ;) not many characters are perfect for more then a few months in a New Eden universe. |
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