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Chaos Scum
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:00:00 -
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What's wrong with tankers exploiting CCPs general lack of foresight? Every one does it almost every build.
We all get over on CCP because they are in over their heads. Almost every aspect of the game has been botched at one point or another. We all use this to our advantage at some point
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Chaos Scum
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:12:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Do you seriously think I'm using tanks because they are a fotm, and not using them because I want to do something different?
Has it crossed your mind that some people used tanks even when they were bad because they enjoy it?
Ass hole...
when were tanks bad?
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Chaos Scum
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:22:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Do you seriously think I'm using tanks because they are a fotm, and not using them because I want to do something different?
Has it crossed your mind that some people used tanks even when they were bad because they enjoy it?
Ass hole... I've been tanking since Uprising, but apparently I am a FotM chaser now. Loving it. Me too, I have been tanking since chromosome ffs. OP, I do come out of my tank sometimes and can still do well in a std bpo scout suit.
would you like a medal? you never answered my question. when were tanks bad? I would kill for my madrugar to be like it was in 1.6.
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Chaos Scum
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:36:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Chaos Scum wrote:
would you like a medal? you never answered my question. when were tanks bad? I would kill for my madrugar to be like it was in 1.6.
It wasn't that tanks were bad. Well, Gunloggis were. The biggest reason why tanks were getting crapped on in 1.0-1.6 was because of horrible rendering. Because swarms users could be within range and not draw meant that invisible swarms that were doing massive damage were a common sight. Why would you want the old Maddy back? Slower, lower resists, but with better reps. Sure you could fit more on it, but the single fit requirement was boring.
I had scans, nitro dmg mod and passive resist. it was a decent little tank it only costed me 550k to fit and with some skill and luck I could make it last 3-5 matches. it could turn.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:53:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:Lol@jp
I dont hide in squads or vehicles in pubs.
thats a scrub move. Who are you kidding?
Its pubs ffs.
I did infantry rifleman in RL. Why would I want to do something in a game that I could already do? Better to enjoy somethingI didn't get to do in RL. This kid really wants to winGǪ something. Just tired of guys who literally take no pride at all in their game at all. You cant tell me for one second that tanks arent easy mode. I want to fight guys with something to prove. I want to fight against guys who arent scared of nuetral territory. I want to fight men who DONT NEED THE UPPER HAND TO WIN. Ill find my place in line there no problem. Just tired of tank scrubs ruining games. Jesus nerd, get out in the real world. Go pick a fight in a bar. Join the military. You need a video game to give you that high? Who's the *****? I felt like you did once. I joined the Marines.
I would have but they no longer take wife beaters.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:17:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:You'd be insulting an awful lot of good guys with that remark. Guys like me that didn't fit the stereotype.
It is no insult. They don't.
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Chaos Scum
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:52:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Chaos Scum wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Chaos Scum wrote:
would you like a medal? you never answered my question. when were tanks bad? I would kill for my madrugar to be like it was in 1.6.
It wasn't that tanks were bad. Well, Gunloggis were. The biggest reason why tanks were getting crapped on in 1.0-1.6 was because of horrible rendering. Because swarms users could be within range and not draw meant that invisible swarms that were doing massive damage were a common sight. Why would you want the old Maddy back? Slower, lower resists, but with better reps. Sure you could fit more on it, but the single fit requirement was boring. I had scans, nitro dmg mod and passive resist. it was a decent little tank it only costed me 550k to fit and with some skill and luck I could make it last 3-5 matches. it could turn. Horrible fit. You would have got rolledeverytime you met some running THE fit.
youd be surprised how many PC maddies I pasted. Its was all about skill before. now its about the rail.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:07:00 -
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@attorney general. I wanted to add I used a Light clarity shield booster as a buffer for swarms. It also worked well to soak up some damage from other blasters. no scanner most of the time. I also had a dual heavy repper at one point that could tank thru wyakormi swarms. Alpha was another story.
Tanking was just plain more skilled last build. now anyone can do it. I could go into some decent gunnlogi fits too.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:31:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:i had a decent soma fit last biuld 2. was speccing into unlocking madrugar and gunlogi.
after core skills.
my 1.6 mlt tank has roughly the same amount of hp as it does currently.
so tanking itself didnt actually involve much skill at all last build. a skilled pilot would be able to do well at avoiding majority of the av. not dieing. and beating higher tiered and better fitted tanks... i was very good at the first 2. the third though. it mostly played out with whoever had the better fitted tank won. thats how all the tank vs tank matches played out unless the guy driving the better fitted tank sucked completely.
i admit to taking down a few blaster gunlogis last build with my soma. but that was mostly because they tried to run away after i fired my first few rounds at them.
ive lost plenty of tanks in 1.6 and all the other previous builds. mostly because of av nades being so overpowered 2 vehicles.
i honestly like the new tank changes. im still able to solo most mlt vehicles vastly the same way i did back in 1.6. by chucking 3 std av nades and finishing the vehicle off with my adv swarms. i cant say the same for std tanks though currently seeing as to how they are 30-40% better than mlt anyways.
If you kept track of how many deaths came from swarms then subtract it from your real deaths I died very little. like once a day.
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Chaos Scum
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:CLONE117 wrote:i had a decent soma fit last biuld 2. was speccing into unlocking madrugar and gunlogi.
after core skills.
my 1.6 mlt tank has roughly the same amount of hp as it does currently.
so tanking itself didnt actually involve much skill at all last build. a skilled pilot would be able to do well at avoiding majority of the av. not dieing. and beating higher tiered and better fitted tanks... i was very good at the first 2. the third though. it mostly played out with whoever had the better fitted tank won. thats how all the tank vs tank matches played out unless the guy driving the better fitted tank sucked completely.
i admit to taking down a few blaster gunlogis last build with my soma. but that was mostly because they tried to run away after i fired my first few rounds at them.
ive lost plenty of tanks in 1.6 and all the other previous builds. mostly because of av nades being so overpowered 2 vehicles.
i honestly like the new tank changes. im still able to solo most mlt vehicles vastly the same way i did back in 1.6. by chucking 3 std av nades and finishing the vehicle off with my adv swarms. i cant say the same for std tanks though currently seeing as to how they are 30-40% better than mlt anyways. Sounds like you didn't tank at all last build. You couldn't see infantry past 50m, you couldn't avoid AV, since swarms were auto locking, high DPS, and 400m lock range... Tanking last build required skill, now you just sit their and take AV, practically pissing yourself laughing as you do it, all the while you just wait for the moment to activate a 30% damage module and open up with you railgun. No variation in tanking now, less skill, less over all fun.
If he is talking about base hp he is just dumb. Rep cycle + passive +active resistance= survivability. if you didn't understand this you were dead. I ran more passive because my DS3 failed me when activating modules.
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Chaos Scum
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:59:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Ok, here goes.
Sica
Militia Shield hardener
Militia Railgun Damage Amplifier
Militia Armor hardener x 2
Militia 80GJ Railgun
And that's how you kill tank(s). Now stop complaining (unless you're a tanker, then go complain about these ridiculous railguns). lolthosefits. I kill a lot of them. You'll only kill with that if the tanker is an idiot or has already slayed like two others running the exact same fit.
or if you use it from the redline.
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Chaos Scum
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:05:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Ok, here goes.
Sica
Militia Shield hardener
Militia Railgun Damage Amplifier
Militia Armor hardener x 2
Militia 80GJ Railgun
And that's how you kill tank(s). Now stop complaining (unless you're a tanker, then go complain about these ridiculous railguns). lolthosefits. I kill a lot of them. You'll only kill with that if the tanker is an idiot or has already slayed like two others running the exact same fit. I've killed a lot of idiots, then. Lots of idiots with Madrugars and Gunnlogis. Mate, there are plenty of idiots driving tanks right now, doesn't matter if they're driving Standard or Militia, plenty of players have spec'd in to the FOTM, and will disappear once we get nerfed (and end up getting 3 shotted by AV nades again, sigh..). These players are awful and die quickly. I mean if you're running a blaster and you're on an open road and you see a Proto cannon with a damage mod on aiming at you, you do not rush forward, I've had several players do that. xD
proto cannons aren't that scary. its the dual hardened maddies they sit on.
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:15:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Atiim wrote: Lolno. Vehicles wouldn't have become OP if it wasn't for people like you and Spkr4TheDead over-exaggerating ever detail possible all throught Uprising.
I'm not wondering why your impossible to kill. Why? Because. I already knew why people would even before 1.7 dropped. Any Tom, ****, and Harry can easily hop into a tank and go 30/0 with minimal to no effort.
Heck, I gave the controller to my 8 year old daughter and she managed to go 27/1 (She died to a Redline Tank at th end).
If you think that you can survive entire matches because of your "skill" then I feel bad for you.
Also, the way you worded that post would imply that you actually adapted. I'd fix that up If I were you.
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I would blame certain tankers, but also the vast horde of infantry who refused to even discuss anything about the OP av of the time. What is funny is that you complain about not wanting to spec into a forge and a fat suit to deal with tanks, but I as a vehicle driver had to spec into a dropsuit, a sniper rifle, and a whole host of supporting skills so that I could get people off of rooftops before 1.7. Did I cry about it? Nope, I just dumped 4 million SP into countering my counter. Did I want to do it? Of course not, who wants to be a scrub sniper? But the game gave me no choice, so I adapted. Now you can continue blaming everyone else, and trying to act high and mighty. Because you could never be part of the problem at all could you?
you are not a tank. you are infantry. you chose not to put skills into infantry in favor of using one piece of equipment on the battle field. the tank is immune to almost every weapon. the infantry you are making your argument against are vulnerable to every weapon including your tank. everyones choices are different, AV is not for everyone, neither is tanking. If the tankers and AVers could fight this out without everyone else being dragged into it, it would be preferable. The way CCP has it set up is the person who skilled into tanks has the upper hand. this should have never have happened, it is making everyone miserable.
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Chaos Scum
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:32:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Atiim wrote:Kinda hard to be part of the problem that somebody else created. Yet you blame people that obviously had nothing to do with it either. The only party that could rightly be faulted is CCP. Tankers were willing to engage with CCP while the medium frame AV'ers insisted everything was fine. Tankers knew the data would back them up, it did, and changes were made. If those people who had resisted so hard seen the winds of change and taken an active role in the discussion, the nerf would probably not been so severe. The main difference between your campaign and those that came before it was that we had no partner in dialogue, and so debate was impossible. You have many willing to enter into discussion with you, but not once have you presented any sort of detailed idea of how you think AV should be. Do you have any idea of what sort of buffs or nerfs to tanks or AV you want? Or is everything just a blob of nerf tanks and buff AV? I amuse myself with your posts, but I am keenly aware that you are not a rational actor, and clearly have no intention of providing meaningful feedback. Your posts are all emotion, no substance.
If they look at the data from pub matches its going to be far worse for tankers in the future. Think about what they did because some tanks got popped by swarms. Now think about how many infantry die in one match to tanks. now think about how many times this happens every day. I didn't believe CCP would let it continue this long. At this point I have no respect for them as game developers. You are just like everyone else who defends the Fotm. Understand balance will not be achieved by overlooking the data. those medium frame AVers didn't know a goddamn thing either. it was the cheapest most effective way to keep their playstyle intact. People like them and you would rather have the game favor your decisions than succeed. People like CCP facilitate this because they really don't know what to do.
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