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NAV HIV
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Posted - 2014.01.16 15:26:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:AI rail guns so OP I'll have a decent amount of health left from a tank battle and then a rail gun from the redline kills me from like 300+ meters even as I move left and right to strafe it still manages to hit me 4/5 times.
You are talking to one of them actually |
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Posted - 2014.01.16 15:27:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Use the railguns on the field. They make me tuck tail and run.
Then again, the AI controlling them is better than infantry is at destroying tanks.
Infantry, get gud. Computers are better than you. How can you let a machine be better than you?
I can agree to that. All the lolTankers from Redline these days think they are tanking and they also think that they are good tankers too... |
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Posted - 2014.01.16 15:41:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:AI rail guns so OP I'll have a decent amount of health left from a tank battle and then a rail gun from the redline kills me from like 300+ meters even as I move left and right to strafe it still manages to hit me 4/5 times. You are talking to one of them actually Spkr might be a whinny little b!tch but he ain't a redline tanker; at least in the matches I've seen him in.
LOL Agreeing to the First bit. But for the the 2nd bit, well he likes to run back to the red line after being tagged once by another Rail. At the end get's blown up a FG lol. Then complains why the other tank was redline sniping...?! lol
Taste of his own medicine lol |
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Posted - 2014.01.16 15:46:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thumb Green wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:AI rail guns so OP I'll have a decent amount of health left from a tank battle and then a rail gun from the redline kills me from like 300+ meters even as I move left and right to strafe it still manages to hit me 4/5 times. You are talking to one of them actually Spkr might be a whinny little b!tch but he ain't a redline tanker; at least in the matches I've seen him in. NAV is just mad that his redline tanker got whacked by me and spkr last night Tho NAV had AV on the bridge and kept me off it without the need for a railgun, AV must be working fine if they are using it
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You have a very good tank and no doubt you are a skilled tanker. You atleast tried pushing with a blaster maddy... And you were successful at it too... GG to you actually.
Btw, i'm not mad. Only way to counter a Redline sniping tank is to go back to the redline... |
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:10:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Tho NAV had AV on the bridge and kept me off it without the need for a railgun, AV must be working fine if they are using it
How many AV'ers?
2 Wyrkomi Swarmers and 1 Proto FG joined by 3 tanks later... |
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:12:00 -
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I love blasters. I was never a Rail or Missiles user. Close range, those Missiles can tear apart a Maddy... I just find redline rail tankers annoying. If it wasn't for Rails you'd probably face a Derpship too |
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:21:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:OP= LiL baby piglet squealing over inevitable tank nerf...
LOL ^ |
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:27:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Tho NAV had AV on the bridge and kept me off it without the need for a railgun, AV must be working fine if they are using it
How many AV'ers? 2 Wyrkomi Swarmers and 1 Proto FG joined by 3 tanks later... 3 tanks turned up after the bridge mostly, 2 somas and 1 maddy but by then we were getting redlined
True... |
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:50:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Tho NAV had AV on the bridge and kept me off it without the need for a railgun, AV must be working fine if they are using it
How many AV'ers? 2 Wyrkomi Swarmers and 1 Proto FG joined by 3 tanks later... So your entire squad dedicated themselves to destroying us. Combined, you only had my tank, once. How many tanks did we take from your squad?
Just proves my point that an entire squad, dedicated to taking out a tank couldn't do it... And you say, "AV is working fine"
Double standard or ADD ?! |
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:52:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:OP= LiL baby piglet squealing over inevitable tank nerf...
Foggy infantryman can't understand why anybody would not skill into infantry, and can't figure out why this isn't Call of Duty In Space.
I'm sure he'd kick your ass in tanking if he decided to spec into it... I've seen you do some infantry work spkr... You get shot down by unmanned rail turret!!! Lmfao .... Some gun game you have... I know you want this to be World of Tanks in Space.... |
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:53:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Thumb Green wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:AI rail guns so OP I'll have a decent amount of health left from a tank battle and then a rail gun from the redline kills me from like 300+ meters even as I move left and right to strafe it still manages to hit me 4/5 times. You are talking to one of them actually Spkr might be a whinny little b!tch but he ain't a redline tanker; at least in the matches I've seen him in. LOL Agreeing to the First bit. But for the the 2nd bit, well he likes to run back to the red line after being tagged once by another Rail. At the end get's blown up a FG lol. Then complains why the other tank was redline sniping...?! lol Taste of his own medicine lol The rest of your guys can hit one tank, but you have ADD and switch targets with each swarm.
I like a good threesome... ADD helps me run it longer than usual ppl |
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:24:00 -
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In that match i was close to losing my tank several times, that is under 1k HP
The AV alone kept me off the bridge mostly and in the end i couldnt go near it - That for me is working as intended, area denial at its best and if i had ****** up or used a diff setup or hull i could have been popped easily enough
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All i can say about your tank is that, it's a pain in the Ass. lol But look at it this way, we have about 6-7 guys trying to do AV. We wouldn't be able TO DO SO, if your blue dots were even half way decent. Shouldn't take 7 guys with AVs to do area denial. Never gonna win a match if the red dot's have even decent infantry, forget about good ones. |
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:41:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:NAV HIV wrote:In that match i was close to losing my tank several times, that is under 1k HP
The AV alone kept me off the bridge mostly and in the end i couldnt go near it - That for me is working as intended, area denial at its best and if i had ****** up or used a diff setup or hull i could have been popped easily enough
All i can say about your tank is that, it's a pain in the Ass. lol But look at it this way, we have about 6-7 guys trying to do AV. We wouldn't be able TO DO SO, if your blue dots were even half way decent. Shouldn't take 7 guys with AVs to do area denial. Never gonna win a match if the red dot's have even decent infantry, forget about good ones.
Thats the nature of pubs, you were able to so, some other days you wont have that chance, against bad vehicle pilots you would have had a host of kills and for us against bad infantry we would have racked up the kills
Take PC, maybe 1 or 2 FG about if that, generally the tanks will duel with each other while infantry will duel with each other and whoever tanks are left standing can then help there infantry to push somewhere
Pubs matchmaking is basically nonexistant, you roll the dice
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Match making is garbage we all know that...
But you got me once, but i was in assault suit. I died 3 more times from ARs and such, trying to cross the bridge with AV fit.
3 AV fit = 450K
The other swarmer died twice with AV fit 400K (Cal Logi)
FG died once in full Proto ; Probably around 200k
Tanks probably lost 2 : costs should be similar.
All for area denial?!
I wouldn't have to cross the bridge and die 3 times if I had a decent enough range. I tank too. I can sit and eat swarms like candy's... But to spend that much SP into swarms for just lulz is my problem... |
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:55:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:NAV HIV wrote:In that match i was close to losing my tank several times, that is under 1k HP
The AV alone kept me off the bridge mostly and in the end i couldnt go near it - That for me is working as intended, area denial at its best and if i had ****** up or used a diff setup or hull i could have been popped easily enough
All i can say about your tank is that, it's a pain in the Ass. lol But look at it this way, we have about 6-7 guys trying to do AV. We wouldn't be able TO DO SO, if your blue dots were even half way decent. Shouldn't take 7 guys with AVs to do area denial. Never gonna win a match if the red dot's have even decent infantry, forget about good ones. Thats the nature of pubs, you were able to so, some other days you wont have that chance, against bad vehicle pilots you would have had a host of kills and for us against bad infantry we would have racked up the kills Take PC, maybe 1 or 2 FG about if that, generally the tanks will duel with each other while infantry will duel with each other and whoever tanks are left standing can then help there infantry to push somewhere Pubs matchmaking is basically nonexistant, you roll the dice Match making is garbage we all know that... But you got me once, but i was in assault suit. I died 3 more times from ARs and such, trying to cross the bridge with AV fit. 3 AV fit = 450K The other swarmer died twice with AV fit 400K (Cal Logi) FG died once in full Proto ; Probably around 200k Tanks probably lost 2 : costs should be similar. All for area denial?! I wouldn't have to cross the bridge and die 3 times if I had a decent enough range. I tank too. I can sit and eat swarms like candy's... But to spend that much SP into swarms for just lulz is my problem...
I wouldnt have got off the bridge at all tbh, if i FG im static unless i use my LAV, i saw no LAVs in that match
Cal logi? lolno sidearm thats there fault
Rails tanks, started up at the redline and then came down to get a beating tbh, very few use rail in CQC, i dont because i suck at it im better at the redline with it
Well the AV did a better job at area denial than the tanks did tbh, wait for the new heavy suits, 4 stack a FG that will hurt[/quote]
Point is AVs Job is to Kill tanks not tickle them, The same way a tanks job is to kill AV, infantry and everything else. Currently only one is doing what they are supposed to. The other one is not... It's just watching the show... |
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:39:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:NAV HIV wrote:
Point is AVs Job is to Kill tanks not tickle them, The same way a tanks job is to kill AV, infantry and everything else. Currently only one is doing what they are supposed to. The other one is not... It's just watching the show...
Who says that? In an ideal world AV will kill all vehicles and all the infantry will rejoice This is not an ideal world Some games it will be area denial and be second best to a tank Infantry have got sloppy, they are not happy if the vehicle is denied an area, it has to die all the time as soon as they see it but they dont work for it, most AV i see stands in one spot or around the same area and complains when it drives away which is mainly due to the last 6months of locking on fire and it dies If you want to kill it now you have to at least put some effort into it
That's true. I don't wanna change anything about tanks right now. What i do need is AV updates. they don't need to be 1.7 stats. Those were a bit too Powerful. May be if we have Proto Hulls we can use the 1.7 stats. But for now, the Range increase in Swarms is a must. The current state makes it useless... |
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Posted - 2014.01.17 20:28:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:NAV HIV wrote:
Point is AVs Job is to Kill tanks not tickle them, The same way a tanks job is to kill AV, infantry and everything else. Currently only one is doing what they are supposed to. The other one is not... It's just watching the show...
Who says that? In an ideal world AV will kill all vehicles and all the infantry will rejoice This is not an ideal world Some games it will be area denial and be second best to a tank Infantry have got sloppy, they are not happy if the vehicle is denied an area, it has to die all the time as soon as they see it but they dont work for it, most AV i see stands in one spot or around the same area and complains when it drives away which is mainly due to the last 6months of locking on fire and it dies If you want to kill it now you have to at least put some effort into it That's true. I don't wanna change anything about tanks right now. What i do need is AV updates. they don't need to be 1.7 stats. Those were a bit too Powerful. May be if we have Proto Hulls we can use the 1.7 stats. But for now, the Range increase in Swarms is a must. The current state makes it useless... Proto hulls i would like, i can dream at least but we seem to have std basic hulls and thats it since they took away every other specialized hull 200m because the OCD in me cant deal with 175m unless CCP decides to make it more for DS/ADS/Logi DS in the future but also its limited range due to size of the maps and maybe also due to various bugs such as invisible swarms (rendering) and maybe tracking like around corners from longer ranges
I always hated those swarms who would do tokyo drift all over the place. Made covers almost useless... I said it many times in the past about the issues with the swarms. Swarms chasing you the way jihad LAV would... But right now CCP being CCP put a nerf hammer on swarms rather than making it more balanced. I know i said lolBalance.... But one can always dream |
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Posted - 2014.01.20 13:38:00 -
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Deep Shallowness wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:How can you let a machine be better than you? You can run faster than your car?
LOL ^ |
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