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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:20:00 -
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Firstly, If you cannot understand why it is detrimental to game design and diversity, when someone spends approximately 2.7 million SP on a Proto suit for specific variant of a weapon, then you're part of the problem.
Secondly as it stands, the AK.0+ScR combo is the poster boy child for broken. What the Assault AK.0 bonus allows, is for the ScR to be proficient at CQC and range... remind you of another Gun(First one to guess correct get 5mill ISK).
Thirdly, the whole. "Gun takes skill because of the overheat mechanic" argument is so stupid. Its a long range weapon, and therefore it should require pacing.
Either way the weapon was due for a re-tuning. Just be happy they did not hit it with the nerf bat
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:22:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Firstly, If you cannot understand why it is detrimental to game design and diversity, when someone spends approximately 2.7 million SP on a Proto suit for specific variant of a weapon, then you're part of the problem.
Secondly as it stands, the AK.0+ScR combo is the poster boy child for broken. What the Assault AK.0 bonus allows, is for the ScR to be proficient at CQC and range... remind you of another Gun(First one to guess correct get 5mill ISK).
Thirdly, the whole. "Gun takes skill because of the overheat mechanic" argument is so stupid. Its a long range weapon, and therefore it should require pacing.
Either way the weapon was due for a re-tuning. Just be happy they did not hit it with the nerf bat I guess AR?
close but guess again
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:24:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Firstly, If you cannot understand why it is detrimental to game design and diversity, when someone spends approximately 2.7 million SP on a Proto suit for specific variant of a weapon, then you're part of the problem.
Secondly as it stands, the AK.0+ScR combo is the poster boy child for broken. What the Assault AK.0 bonus allows, is for the ScR to be proficient at CQC and range... remind you of another Gun(First one to guess correct get 5mill ISK).
Thirdly, the whole. "Gun takes skill because of the overheat mechanic" argument is so stupid. Its a long range weapon, and therefore it should require pacing.
Either way the weapon was due for a re-tuning. Just be happy they did not hit it with the nerf bat the feared tac AR
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Firstly, If you cannot understand why it is detrimental to game design and diversity, when someone spends approximately 2.7 million SP on a Proto suit for specific variant of a weapon, then you're part of the problem.
Secondly as it stands, the AK.0+ScR combo is the poster boy child for broken. What the Assault AK.0 bonus allows, is for the ScR to be proficient at CQC and range... remind you of another Gun(First one to guess correct get 5mill ISK).
Thirdly, the whole. "Gun takes skill because of the overheat mechanic" argument is so stupid. Its a long range weapon, and therefore it should require pacing.
Either way the weapon was due for a re-tuning. Just be happy they did not hit it with the nerf bat I don't understand your bitching ReGnYuM. The ScR will always be good even without the heat bonus in CQC, all the bonus mean was that players who made use of a specific weapon type were benefitted in its use. The Heat bonus is what keeps the ScR in check for CQC. What you players made use was bonus that augmented a weapon from Mid to Long range to occasion CQC, into CQC, Mid range, and long range.
You can stand here and argue all you want that the bonus is just 5 shots, but youu and me both know that 5 shots is the difference between overheating or killing.
Just so people understand I have the AK.0 + ScR combo
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:39:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Here comes the horde of the butthurt...
Let them come I will smash them just like I smash them in game
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:43:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm not saying this to be a troll.
But Reg, don't you use an ScR on your Min Logi suit?
Is this weapon only broken on the Amarr suit? Or are you saying the the weapon itself needs to be fixed?
1. I don't have a min Logi but a Min assault
2. I was getting use to it well I trained up my AK.0
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:45:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Firstly, If you cannot understand why it is detrimental to game design and diversity, when someone spends approximately 2.7 million SP on a Proto suit for specific variant of a weapon, then you're part of the problem.
Secondly as it stands, the AK.0+ScR combo is the poster boy child for broken. What the Assault AK.0 bonus allows, is for the ScR to be proficient at CQC and range... remind you of another Gun(First one to guess correct get 5mill ISK).
Thirdly, the whole. "Gun takes skill because of the overheat mechanic" argument is so stupid. Its a long range weapon, and therefore it should require pacing.
Either way the weapon was due for a re-tuning. Just be happy they did not hit it with the nerf bat
Edit: DozersMouse XIII: has won the 5mill Tears, sweet sweet tears.
Whos crying lol, Look @ SiSi lately...
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:56:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm not saying this to be a troll.
But Reg, don't you use an ScR on your Min Logi suit?
Is this weapon only broken on the Amarr suit? Or are you saying the the weapon itself needs to be fixed? 1. I don't have a min Logi but a Min assault2. I was getting use to it well I trained up my AK.0 My bad then. I do remember getting torn to shreds in my scout suit by an ScR by you, so that's what I remembered it by. But my question still stands. Do you think that the bonus makes it broken, or is it the gun's ability to fire so fast that makes it broken? Would you say that a nerf to the overall ROF of the ScR would bring it back into it's role as a mid-long range weapon?
Hey man, the answer is kind of complicated and long, but let me just smash Aisha around and I will get back to you.
Short answer: I think the weapon is quite balanced without the bonus.
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Posted - 2014.01.15 22:06:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote: Tears, sweet sweet tears.
Whos crying lol, Look @ SiSi lately... Apparently a Viziam Scrambler Rifle or two shot you in the groin more than once. Not everyone skilled into the Amarr Assault a.k0 simply for the bonus. For example, I skilled into it because I use Amarr gear EVE side and therefore DUST side (also have proto Amarr Logi a.k0). Yes, the SCR and Assault a.k0 have an awesome symbiotic relationship, but what is going to keep me from one shotting people even without the heat reduction bonus? Yes, I may overheat faster than usual, but my Viziam Scrambler Rifle coupled with 2 complex damage mods is still going to hit just as hard - and I aim for the head, body shots are for scrambler neophytes.
I am sure every gun is this game has hit me in my Special place, yet that has nothing to do with the game balance.
Furthermore I am glad you're content with the ScR not being overhauled.
Aisha Ctarl wrote:Yes, the SCR and Assault a.k0 have an awesome symbiotic relationship, but what is going to keep me from one shotting people even without the heat reduction bonus? Yes, I may overheat faster than usual, but my Viziam Scrambler Rifle coupled with 2 complex damage mods is still going to hit just as hard - and I aim for the head, body shots are for scrambler neophytes
Kinda what I just said in my OP
ReGnYuM wrote: Either way the weapon was due for a re-tuning. Just be happy they did not hit it with the nerf bat
Look we're already agreeing
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2014.01.15 22:10:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm not saying this to be a troll.
But Reg, don't you use an ScR on your Min Logi suit?
Is this weapon only broken on the Amarr suit? Or are you saying the the weapon itself needs to be fixed? 1. I don't have a min Logi but a Min assault2. I was getting use to it well I trained up my AK.0 My bad then. I do remember getting torn to shreds in my scout suit by an ScR by you, so that's what I remembered it by. But my question still stands. Do you think that the bonus makes it broken, or is it the gun's ability to fire so fast that makes it broken? Would you say that a nerf to the overall ROF of the ScR would bring it back into it's role as a mid-long range weapon? Hey man, the answer is kind of complicated and long, but let me just smash Aisha around and I will get back to you. Short answer: I think the weapon is quite balanced without the bonus. Uh oh, sounds like someone is getting a bit heated, but hey, game on ;) *brushes off a.k0 suit and polishes the scriptures along her Viziam SCR.*
Whos ever gets heated on the forums... LMFAO.
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
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