DUST Search - Bombers the cure for redlines rails?

DUST Fiend wrote:

THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:

I like how our new dropship playerbase thinks redline rails are a problem seeing as how they're the one thing stopping ADS's and tanks from steamrolling every match 24/7 no exceptions.

The redline is a plague.

Good dropship pilots still want rails to be able to fight back, we just don't want them to have an immunity zone where they can sit back solo blaring justin beiber and raking in the kills.

You know, like a noob.

rails be able to fight back? thatd mean they'd have to be able to aim straight up and rotation speed would have to buffed so tanks could actually fire back on ADSs overhead, so they ADS's would lose their ability to get cheap, no resistance kills.

I assure you, no dropship pilot out there wants there easy win button against tanks taken away.

Either way, my point still stands, once AV is buffed or hardeners are nerfed or limited to 1 per fit, we can balace railguns and/or redline rails, til then, no, we don't need tank and ADS spam being even worse than it is.

If you're not a horrible tanker who is just god awful at DUST, you already know how to roll quickly forwards and backwards to combat dropships already. All railguns need is slightly more elevation to make this a very deadly tactic for a skilled tanker, which is what we should be rewarding: skilled players, not talentless nobodies who can't leave their redline to save their life.

If dropships were I win buttons, you would see FAR more of them as opposed to redline rail tanks

But, you don't, because they aren't. They actually take skill to operate effectively.


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THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 814	Posted - 2014.01.15 15:44:00 - [1] - Quote I like how our new dropship playerbase thinks redline rails are a problem seeing as how they're the one thing stopping ADS's and tanks from steamrolling every match 24/7 no exceptions. That's "MR." Pothead to you.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 814	Posted - 2014.01.15 15:59:00 - [2] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: I like how our new dropship playerbase thinks redline rails are a problem seeing as how they're the one thing stopping ADS's and tanks from steamrolling every match 24/7 no exceptions. The redline is a plague. Good dropship pilots still want rails to be able to fight back, we just don't want them to have an immunity zone where they can sit back solo blaring justin beiber and raking in the kills. You know, like a noob. rails be able to fight back? thatd mean they'd have to be able to aim straight up and rotation speed would have to buffed so tanks could actually fire back on ADSs overhead, so they ADS's would lose their ability to get cheap, no resistance kills. I assure you, no dropship pilot out there wants there easy win button against tanks taken away. Either way, my point still stands, once AV is buffed or hardeners are nerfed or limited to 1 per fit, we can balace railguns and/or redline rails, til then, no, we don't need tank and ADS spam being even worse than it is. That's "MR." Pothead to you.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 814	Posted - 2014.01.15 16:05:00 - [3] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: I like how our new dropship playerbase thinks redline rails are a problem seeing as how they're the one thing stopping ADS's and tanks from steamrolling every match 24/7 no exceptions. Rail tanks can still stop ADS's and HAV's from steamrolling while not in the redline. The issue here is there is absolutely no way to counter a redline rail. Everything needs a counter. That's "MR." Pothead to you.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 815	Posted - 2014.01.15 16:21:00 - [4] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: I like how our new dropship playerbase thinks redline rails are a problem seeing as how they're the one thing stopping ADS's and tanks from steamrolling every match 24/7 no exceptions. The redline is a plague. Good dropship pilots still want rails to be able to fight back, we just don't want them to have an immunity zone where they can sit back solo blaring justin beiber and raking in the kills. You know, like a noob. rails be able to fight back? thatd mean they'd have to be able to aim straight up and rotation speed would have to buffed so tanks could actually fire back on ADSs overhead, so they ADS's would lose their ability to get cheap, no resistance kills. I assure you, no dropship pilot out there wants there easy win button against tanks taken away. Either way, my point still stands, once AV is buffed or hardeners are nerfed or limited to 1 per fit, we can balace railguns and/or redline rails, til then, no, we don't need tank and ADS spam being even worse than it is. If you're not a horrible tanker who is just god awful at DUST, you already know how to roll quickly forwards and backwards to combat dropships already. All railguns need is slightly more elevation to make this a very deadly tactic for a skilled tanker, which is what we should be rewarding: skilled players, not talentless nobodies who can't leave their redline to save their life. If dropships were I win buttons, you would see FAR more of them as opposed to redline rail tanks But, you don't, because they aren't. They actually take skill to operate effectively. Tanks can't roll fowards and backwards anymore to fight back, as dropships can hover far above you not having to worry at all due to missle range buff, if that old tactic still works you're pilot is straight up garbage, ANY HALFWAY-DECENT pilot is going to be 100m above you, laughing as he easily hits every shot on you no matter what. But ADS's requires skill? HAHAHA thats a good one. I've yet to see a skilled pilot on this game. Sure some have had the SP for the ships, a couple have pulled off the circlcling above nose down vulture kills on forges, but I have YET to see a skilled pilot. As for general non braindead tactics required to never lose an ADS, that easy as hell and common. If you don't think ADS are spammed, go play ambush. That's "MR." Pothead to you.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 816	Posted - 2014.01.15 16:33:00 - [5] - Quote I like how no one suggests removing the mountains/high spots inside redlines so we'd still have the redlines perks of safe zone yet eliminate redline sniping/rails. Instead everyone says "REMOVE THE REDLINE DERP" Oh well remove the redline, so me and nyain will be able to come after you no matter what. Then you can b*tch about CCP removing the redlines after you get stomped. That's "MR." Pothead to you.