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Leonid Tybalt
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Posted - 2014.01.15 18:53:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:I know it's hard to do matchmaking when no one is playing the game but consistently stacking organized squads against randoms is just too cruel. Scotty is a true a fascist.
Organize into squads yourself then. That goes for all of you crybabies who ***** about getting dominated by people who play in squads.
If you join a public match but refuse to use the squad finder or "lfs" then getting stomped by a squad or two squads of organized players is well deserved.
There's a reason why there are so many warpoint bonuses for activities that help other members of your team (healing, repairing, using scanners, dropping uplinks etc.) it's because you're SUPPOSED to play AS A TEAM and not run solo.
So stop bitching about getting owned by players who play the way the game is meant to be played because they aren't doing anything wrong, YOU ARE! |
Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:53:00 -
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PAROX YSM wrote:Quote:Organize into squads yourself then. That goes for all of you crybabies who ***** about getting dominated by people who play in squads.
If you join a public match but refuse to use the squad finder or "lfs" then getting stomped by a squad or two squads of organized players is well deserved.
There's a reason why there are so many warpoint bonuses for activities that help other members of your team (healing, repairing, using scanners, dropping uplinks etc.) it's because you're SUPPOSED to play AS A TEAM and not run solo.
So stop bitching about getting owned by players who play the way the game is meant to be played because they aren't doing anything wrong, YOU ARE!
I agree, the game is meant to be played in squads, working together to accomplish a goal. Win or lose, it's much more enjoyable when playing with competent people. But, don't you think your comments above are a bit harsh. We're talking about new players, unfamiliar with all the workings of the game. They're trying. They want to play. It's hard enough for them to learn the game, while getting crushed every few seconds. And if veteran players are going to treat them with such disdain, where's the incentive to stay and play. New players are the life blood of this game. Without new players, this game dies and the only thing you'll be left to play with is yourself. Instead of treating the new players so poorly, how about taking them under your wing and showing them the ropes. Maybe, just maybe, this will help improve the game play for all of us. Now back to the point of this thread ... imbalances in matchmaking.
Sorry but no, just no. There will always be new players if a game gets enough exposure. So theres no reason to babying people.
I don't care for players who reacts like they do in this thread when they lose due to their own mistakes and against better players. If you're gonna go "baaaw! This is so hard. Im gonna leave unless you make it easier" then I say: Leave, I sure as hell won't miss you.
Way too many mmo's and shooters baby with the players and I hate that. I want dust players who think: "okay, **** this game is hard! How do I get better like the more experienced players?"
Im not gonna shed any tears for seeing the crybabies leave. It's not the kind of players I want to play with or against anyway... |
Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:48:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:PAROX YSM wrote:Quote:Organize into squads yourself then. That goes for all of you crybabies who ***** about getting dominated by people who play in squads.
If you join a public match but refuse to use the squad finder or "lfs" then getting stomped by a squad or two squads of organized players is well deserved.
There's a reason why there are so many warpoint bonuses for activities that help other members of your team (healing, repairing, using scanners, dropping uplinks etc.) it's because you're SUPPOSED to play AS A TEAM and not run solo.
So stop bitching about getting owned by players who play the way the game is meant to be played because they aren't doing anything wrong, YOU ARE!
I agree, the game is meant to be played in squads, working together to accomplish a goal. Win or lose, it's much more enjoyable when playing with competent people. But, don't you think your comments above are a bit harsh. We're talking about new players, unfamiliar with all the workings of the game. They're trying. They want to play. It's hard enough for them to learn the game, while getting crushed every few seconds. And if veteran players are going to treat them with such disdain, where's the incentive to stay and play. New players are the life blood of this game. Without new players, this game dies and the only thing you'll be left to play with is yourself. Instead of treating the new players so poorly, how about taking them under your wing and showing them the ropes. Maybe, just maybe, this will help improve the game play for all of us. Now back to the point of this thread ... imbalances in matchmaking. Sorry but no, just no. There will always be new players if a game gets enough exposure. So theres no reason to babying people. I don't care for players who reacts like they do in this thread when they lose due to their own mistakes and against better players. If you're gonna go "baaaw! This is so hard. Im gonna leave unless you make it easier" then I say: Leave, I sure as hell won't miss you. Way too many mmo's and shooters baby with the players and I hate that. I want dust players who think: "okay, **** this game is hard! How do I get better like the more experienced players?" Im not gonna shed any tears for seeing the crybabies leave. It's not the kind of players I want to play with or against anyway... I agree in that I like the game being difficult and not easymode COD. However, something does need to be done to keep new players around. In EVE, new players are not FORCED to fight against 10 year EVE vets...there are many many different things to do in EVE for all skill & experience levels. In Dust, there are not as many options. The more players Dust has, the better the experience will be for everyone.
The thing is that new players in eve pretty much has to stay away from PvP entierly because if you venture to any PvP area there's always a possibility of running into not only more experienced players but also running into experienced players in groups ganging up on you.
The only other activtirs you can do in eve without risking that as much is PvE, but let's face it carebear PvE is boring as hell in the long run. And the only way to make it equal to eve would be to bring in PvE elements in dust as well (which seem to be in the plans in regards to the "rogue drone hunting" occuring in the intro video).
But I don't want to see any "player level apartheid" in the PvP elements of dust at all. There's gotta be a risk of running into more experienced players in squads. It makes the game more exciting and forces people to get better.
If everyone could just "choose" which people they have to go up against then the game will get really lame really fast.
And as I said before: there's always gonna be new players. New players come and go to every game. The hardcore atmosphere will appeal to enough people to make the game survive (while alienating others). So there's no reason to worry.
Ccp shouldn't focus any efforts at all in trying to keep whiny noobs around. It would be a waste of resources and it would prevent them from adding new content that rewards players who show commitment. |
Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:52:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Matchmaking is a genuine pain point for us right now and something we'd love to get sorted. I don't have any specific updates other than to let you guys know that we're aware of the issues and want to rectify them. just asking cant we just have pub games with squads and pub games with out ? Like in COD, you can join matchmaking that is only for solo joiners or you can join a matchmaking with solo joiners & squads...
But what's going to prevent glitch-abusing and proto stomping scrub hunters like Nyain San to qsynch into matches with only solo joiners and play like a squad anyway? |
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