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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5673
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Posted - 2014.01.14 21:41:00 -
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((You know who the Ray of Matar was right? Using that title when you are undeserving is almost an insult to her memory.
Oh and lore wise you would never even get close to Sarum Prime without being suspect to Amarrian law enforcement both ground and planetside, or subject to deployments of Templar units...... I happen to live in this system. The Throne Worlds are not so unguarded as that.... its almost like me saying I flew to the Minmatar home world and stole 2 elders and 1000 slaves...
Also seems like you don't know too much about the Amarr....if we though you were the ilk of Molok your species would be gone from this cluster.
Good story though I like it....its almost weird how people in Dust like Rping and writing lore about freeing slaves..... which contrary to my upcoming lore will be about the Amarrian side of things.))
"Face the enemy as a solid wall.
For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach"
-Askura 10:3
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5673
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Posted - 2014.01.14 21:57:00 -
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Ray-Of Matar wrote:True Adamance wrote:You know who the Ray of Matar was right? Using that title when you are undeserving is almost an insult to her memory.
((Good story though I like it....its almost weird how people in Dust like Rping and writing lore about freeing slaves..... which contrary to my upcoming lore will be about the Amarrian side of things.)) Interesting observation, however in this chronicle not one slave was freed. In fact a whole new generation of Amarrian slaves was revealed. Ray-Of Matar is his name. He is the Emissary of the One True God. That is the title he both deserves and claims. Please read Dust Fiction The Emissary Pt1 & Pt2 for his origin lore.
Will do then thanks for the reference....still as much as I like your writing here..... I still find it highly unrealistic....consider that all races have their share of competent and incompetent mercs.....but you don't get 15,000 years of imperial stability with a poor ability to respond to internal threats.
Just a heads up, if I can as a capsuleers manage and track everyone in Sarum Prime while I fly through as a capsuleer...so to can the Empire who rules this space.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall.
For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach"
-Askura 10:3
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5673
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Posted - 2014.01.14 22:35:00 -
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Ray-Of Matar wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ray-Of Matar wrote:True Adamance wrote:You know who the Ray of Matar was right? Using that title when you are undeserving is almost an insult to her memory.
((Good story though I like it....its almost weird how people in Dust like Rping and writing lore about freeing slaves..... which contrary to my upcoming lore will be about the Amarrian side of things.)) Interesting observation, however in this chronicle not one slave was freed. In fact a whole new generation of Amarrian slaves was revealed. Ray-Of Matar is his name. He is the Emissary of the One True God. That is the title he both deserves and claims. Please read Dust Fiction The Emissary Pt1 & Pt2 for his origin lore. Will do then thanks for the reference....still as much as I like your writing here..... I still find it highly unrealistic....consider that all races have their share of competent and incompetent mercs.....but you don't get 15,000 years of imperial stability with a poor ability to respond to internal threats. Just a heads up, if I can as a capsuleers manage and track everyone in Sarum Prime while I fly through as a capsuleer...so to can the Empire who rules this space. So I would imagine that ganking would be impossible in your perfect little empire correct? Oh wait that happens everyday! So I imagine there is no crime in your perfectly monitored empire, but wait theft and kidnapping and murder happens everyday! That is the beauty of a large empire, they cannot possible watch everything while maintaining open borders. I fly my Minmatar characters thru Amarr space everyday, unmolested. Yes I flew the escape route to have accurate times in a Leopard class shuttle. Just a heads up you can only track what is in your scan range and not cloaked. Most pilots in high sec do not constantly d-scan every few seconds like you do in wh-space so the chances of you knowing everyone in Sarum Prime space is very unrealistic. Nonetheless thank you for reading and taking the time to share your observations.
Yet you didn't just hit some random world....you hit the Throne Worlds... its kind of tantamount to me flying into Metropolis and attacking the Tribunal offices taking hundreds of slaves and waltzing back to my ship. Not that i'll ever write about that, its not my style. All I'm saying if you don't hear many Amarr RPers going on about how they just raided central Minmatar systems do you?
Eitherway as biased as you are it was at least well written and that's all that all that matters in lore, you even have a well thought out and presented operation and greater alliance tied alignment which is very nice to see.
As for your True God all I can say is this. You will always be hunted by my kind. One day we will catch you. We will break you, remind you that there is only one God in this existence, one God who is as true as he is benevolent and just, and he has given the Amarr an Immortal destiny.
You have but one chance to repent your sins and accept the true word.
" The gates of paradise will open for you one time only; woe to the soul who dares to knock twice." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 5:14
"Face the enemy as a solid wall.
For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach"
-Askura 10:3
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5673
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:15:00 -
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Lol not that the Amarr would report on that though...were a closed society news and transparency? What are these things!
Again good lore.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall.
For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach"
-Askura 10:3
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5722
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:53:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:ehhhhh, have to agree with adamance on this one. Like the story, but actually entering airspace on a throne world planet? 15 minute response time from the Imperial Navy? That's beyond far-fetched. the shuttle would have been blown from the sky the moment it illegally entered the planet's airspace.
Empire Navies respond the moment you enter a system... from my experience running the Minmatar border systems on my way in and out of Molden Heath.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5749
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Posted - 2014.01.15 22:41:00 -
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Ray-Of Matar wrote:True Adamance wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:ehhhhh, have to agree with adamance on this one. Like the story, but actually entering airspace on a throne world planet? 15 minute response time from the Imperial Navy? That's beyond far-fetched. the shuttle would have been blown from the sky the moment it illegally entered the planet's airspace. Empire Navies respond the moment you enter a system... from my experience running the Minmatar border systems on my way in and out of Molden Heath. You can agree up is down, it does not alter the actual fact. I wonder if you actually play EVE. Unless you have criminal status or are enrolled in the militia you can fly into any system in EVE without fear of the local Navy or Concord. This is a story boys, a 15 minute response time is enormously fast. Unless you think every home on the Throne Worlds has a hotline to Navy dispatch. Even then you'd have to get your call for assistance answered, approved, and a ship or ships tasked to respond. This is an era of interplanetary commerce, it is unrealistic to think every ship entering Throne Worlds airspace would be targeted by the Navy. In fact Navy units usually are only seen around jump gates after enemy militia units have been detected in the area. Even Concord gives pilots with criminal tags notice to vacate the area around gates. I forgot once that a character of mine had a um ... history with the Caldari State and sent him towards Jita to sell some Sleeper loot. Fortunately I was able to tank the gate guns and flee. If the Amarr Empire had impenetrable security around their planets there would be no such thing as Minmatar terrorists, you speak as if perfection of protection was possible, it is not and thankfully never will be anywhere in EVE. No Place In EVE Is Truly Safe, that is an indisputable fact!
I do play EVE.
However every Holder is likely to have security, since not everyone can be a Holder, as I understand it only nobility can. However we must consider this logically. This pilot you mention might be in the milita, he might have standing loss with the Amarr, however you don't just get to land Matari shuttles in Amarr airspace without some kind of challenge.
All I'm saying is would you agree with me writing a lore post where I arrived in Minmatar space, went from planet to planet with a freighter enslaving thousands of people and made off home? The Empire doesn't don't things like that anymore, we understand we cant.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5756
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Posted - 2014.01.15 23:35:00 -
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I'm not saying terrorism doesn't exist, the Bloody Hand of Matar are known Matari terrorists...what I'm saying is this is not terrorism, nor feasible.
15 mins to take down a massive plantation complex, no security, board all Matari slaves, could be thousands of them, and take off before anyone even shows up, questions you, or takes some shots.....
Terrorism happens, but not often, not in the Throne Worlds, and it rarely ever flies under the radar. The Amarr aren't he most stable empire without reason.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5758
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:00:00 -
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Ray-Of Matar wrote:True Adamance wrote:I'm not saying terrorism doesn't exist, the Bloody Hand of Matar are known Matari terrorists...what I'm saying is this is not terrorism, nor feasible.
15 mins to take down a massive plantation complex, no security, board all Matari slaves, could be thousands of them, and take off before anyone even shows up, questions you, or takes some shots.....
Terrorism happens, but not often, not in the Throne Worlds, and it rarely ever flies under the radar. The Amarr aren't he most stable empire without reason.
LOL now I understand your confusion! You did not understand the story. The raid did not, repeat did not free any slaves. The only people taken were the five family members of the slave holder. The lady of the house and her four youngest children. The characters in this story are brave but not martyrs, it was quick in and out because crime is possible full scale assaults not very practical. The whole point is that it's only possible because it resides it that grey area between criminal activity and military style invasion. When you dial emergency services you don't get connected to the Amarr Navy. The only people who witnessed the raid were immediately killed or captured. I think realistically 15 minutes of confusion before a response could be dispatched is very reasonable.
So what was the point, you just essentially took slaves undermining your entire mission.....assuming that is the betterment of the Minmatar.
If its not then fine, if it is you probably just shamed your entire people.....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5758
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:11:00 -
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Ray-Of Matar wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ray-Of Matar wrote:True Adamance wrote:I'm not saying terrorism doesn't exist, the Bloody Hand of Matar are known Matari terrorists...what I'm saying is this is not terrorism, nor feasible.
15 mins to take down a massive plantation complex, no security, board all Matari slaves, could be thousands of them, and take off before anyone even shows up, questions you, or takes some shots.....
Terrorism happens, but not often, not in the Throne Worlds, and it rarely ever flies under the radar. The Amarr aren't he most stable empire without reason.
LOL now I understand your confusion! You did not understand the story. The raid did not, repeat did not free any slaves. The only people taken were the five family members of the slave holder. The lady of the house and her four youngest children. The characters in this story are brave but not martyrs, it was quick in and out because crime is possible full scale assaults not very practical. The whole point is that it's only possible because it resides it that grey area between criminal activity and military style invasion. When you dial emergency services you don't get connected to the Amarr Navy. The only people who witnessed the raid were immediately killed or captured. I think realistically 15 minutes of confusion before a response could be dispatched is very reasonable. So what was the point, you just essentially took slaves undermining your entire mission.....assuming that is the betterment of the Minmatar. If its not then fine, if it is you probably just shamed your entire people..... Wow does the title mean nothing to you? Did you read the part where it stated that since the moral argument against slavery would never win in the EVE cluster this Alliance decided to embrace it and inflict it upon the Amarr people?
So what's the theme of the narrative? More Holders would be chosen to guide those slaves, its a sacred duty for our people. It means little to us.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5766
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:01:00 -
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Ray-Of Matar wrote:The point is this Alliance will continue to target Amarr holders and their families across the EVE cluster and submit them to a life of what they have been dishing out to Matari people. The fact that we will re-educate their children and descendants against the false Amarr religion is a plus factor, as in icing on the cake.
The Matari are no longer the only enslaved people of New Eden!
I see but we Amarr were enslaving our own kind long before you thought it was a bright idea.... not to impugn on your alliance now but do you know how to religiously re-educate these captives?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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