DUST Search - Conceptual Design for Tiericide

Pokey Dravon wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

Would new players really stay if they start off buggered basically and simply grind to removes penalties?

And if this idea was as good as peoples like yourself believe them I'm sure it'd have been created with this as the norm. Iv read other threads about this yet yours makes it look like the game would be better suited for masochists.

And iv read the thread, I'm of the opinion that dust would be pure sht and more of a grind while simultaneously giving newbs no real motive to grind and making vets feel like they wasted their time.

Let me know if I'm wrong, I'll ignore any opinion used to try and de bunk mine, bias is bias.

Of course its a matter of opinion, I never said everyone would agree with me and even point out in my conclusion that I knew the argument you raise would come up.

I guess my personal viewpoint is "The other guy has Proto Armor Plates, that means hes going to be able to move faster than me in my Basic Armor Plates, I should skill into that"


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TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2086	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:54:00 - [1] - Quote Would new players really stay if they start off buggered basically and simply grind to removes penalties? And if this idea was as good as peoples like yourself believe them I'm sure it'd have been created with this as the norm. Iv read other threads about this yet yours makes it look like the game would be better suited for masochists. And iv read the thread, I'm of the opinion that dust would be pure sht and more of a grind while simultaneously giving newbs no real motive to grind and making vets feel like they wasted their time. Let me know if I'm wrong, I'll ignore any opinion used to try and de bunk mine, bias is bias. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2086	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:56:00 - [2] - Quote So am I wrong or is this just a matter of opinion? Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2087	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:10:00 - [3] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Would new players really stay if they start off buggered basically and simply grind to removes penalties? And if this idea was as good as peoples like yourself believe them I'm sure it'd have been created with this as the norm. Iv read other threads about this yet yours makes it look like the game would be better suited for masochists. And iv read the thread, I'm of the opinion that dust would be pure sht and more of a grind while simultaneously giving newbs no real motive to grind and making vets feel like they wasted their time. Let me know if I'm wrong, I'll ignore any opinion used to try and de bunk mine, bias is bias. Of course its a matter of opinion, I never said everyone would agree with me and even point out in my conclusion that I knew the argument you raise would come up. I guess my personal viewpoint is "The other guy has Proto Armor Plates, that means hes going to be able to move faster than me in my Basic Armor Plates, I should skill into that" Ah ok thanks, iv been wondering if theres something concrete I'm simply not understanding lol. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2087	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:25:00 - [4] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Ah ok thanks, iv been wondering if theres something concrete I'm simply not understanding lol. Nah that's just your passive aggressive gland secreting too much. On a more mature note, lets see if we can find some middle ground. How would you feel in all modules had a downside as listed which decreased as you moved up tiers, but the benefit of the module also increased, but by a lesser amount than we have now? (In most cases) 'On a more mature note' yes very mature mate hahahaha. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2087	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:29:00 - [5] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Proposing a compromise is considered immature? Suddenly all the trolling on the forums makes sense! And admitting that I thought I might not quite be understanding tiericide is what? Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2087	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:33:00 - [6] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Proposing a compromise is considered immature? Suddenly all the trolling on the forums makes sense! And admitting that I thought I might not quite be understanding tiericide is what? Your response was snarky, I was not making an attempt to insult your understanding of what I was talking about. I apologize if it came across that way. Haha, I didn't mean to come across like that, I apologise as well. Can't really blame you as I come here to discuss the game and be a d!ck. I'm all for this anyway, iws showed some 'pretty pictures' showing some nice benefits I'd never realised or been told before. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2088	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:44:00 - [7] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Haha, I didn't mean to come across like that, I apologise as well. Can't really blame you as I come here to discuss the game and be a d!ck. I'm all for this anyway, iws showed some 'pretty pictures' showing some nice benefits I'd never realised or been told before. I saw IWS's post as well, and his setup for suits is far better than mine so I'm all for that. I still want to find a way to encourage more diversity in how dropsuits are fit, because I feel currently only a handful of fitting philosophies are valid and I think it makes fitting really stale. My idea was that if you attach downsides to modules, you're encouraged to use different types to balance the positives and negatives in a way which suits your playstyle more. Aha I get you, its been a long day. I am totally getting this now. I totally agree and it seems that ccp was considering doing this seen as the beta suits had two slightly different variants of each. Iv just never seen it put the way you or iws have put it, showing an actual enjoyable side to it. Mind blown. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2088	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:46:00 - [8] - Quote And theres some likes xp lol Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.