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Chesire Ventus wrote:

Komodo Jones wrote:

It's crazy that people think it's underpowered when they try to use it the same way everyone else fights, it's not a frontline fighter.

Best scout i've ever seen kicked my ass, i ended that match 1-12, he had a duvolle, remote explosives, and nova knives and omg i just couldn't kill him. I even pulled out a couple of my proto ridiculous suits, he made me come at him stupid and blind and wrecked muh face, that's where the power of the scout lies, they're fast, flexible, stealthy, and annoying as ****, and in whatever game I play I love playing the guy that can get an entire squad chasing after him just because they're mad.

They are under powered though. UP =/= Useless. Even the PLC can be a deadly beast in the right hands. Like the heavies, they lack many utensils to do their duties. They're getting a very important tool in the next update hopefully. Heavies are still stuck with HMGs and Forgeguns and no harderners or resistance modules.

The scouts only have the Shotgun, Nova Knives, and Sniper Rifle as well, and the Sniper Rifle doesn't even do it's best work with a scout. We'll need more Scout-focused weapons but that's for another day.

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Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 318	Posted - 2014.01.14 07:04:00 - [1] - Quote That scouts were so much fun, even before cloaks come out gotdamn it's great being able to zip about the field after using a tanked out logi...just gotta get a good fast gun on it and that thing will wreck. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 915	Posted - 2014.01.14 07:13:00 - [2] - Quote Yeah, seems the scouts are the new go-to suit even before the new patch. Smeehf.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 805	Posted - 2014.01.14 07:37:00 - [3] - Quote lawlmz... All these 'damz Scoutz are fun' tourists don't last 5 games before going back to their tanked logi and never coming back. We'll see about scout being FOTM, if it truly gets to be FOTM, CCP would have dug themselves even deeper. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6425	Posted - 2014.01.14 07:58:00 - [4] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: lawlmz... All these 'damz Scoutz are fun' tourists don't last 5 games before going back to their tanked logi and never coming back. We'll see about scout being FOTM, if it truly gets to be FOTM, CCP would have dug themselves even deeper. I have mixed feelings about the FOTM thing. Sure I like scouts to be popular, but not to the point where the nerf bat is lingering. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5019	Posted - 2014.01.14 08:03:00 - [5] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: lawlmz... All these 'damz Scoutz are fun' tourists don't last 5 games before going back to their tanked logi and never coming back. We'll see about scout being FOTM, if it truly gets to be FOTM, CCP would have dug themselves even deeper. I foresee a lot of people dumping a ton of points into scouts after the respec because "cool cloaks, I'm going to be a ninja!" and then get frustrated and want their points back, only to realize that is the last respec we'll likely ever get. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 915	Posted - 2014.01.14 08:11:00 - [6] - Quote I'm not even that excited about the cloaks. Although they do contribute to what I like in scouts: staying under radar. Smeehf.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1321	Posted - 2014.01.14 08:14:00 - [7] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: lawlmz... All these 'damz Scoutz are fun' tourists don't last 5 games before going back to their tanked logi and never coming back. We'll see about scout being FOTM, if it truly gets to be FOTM, CCP would have dug themselves even deeper. I have mixed feelings about the FOTM thing. Sure I like scouts to be popular, but not to the point where the nerf bat is lingering. It is a totally different experience to start scout from day one, than it is to hop into with a god foundation of skills. I think a lot of people who did not go this route don't get the full experience. I also think some of the long time scouts forget what it is lie to start from scratch. I know that i remember it being hard, then I built a Min scout alt from the "ground up" and it is was more challenging than I remembered (although i think it is different than open bata was) KRRROOOOOOM
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 319	Posted - 2014.01.14 15:34:00 - [8] - Quote Nah if I were to get a new dropsuit (which I'm close to doing) it would be scout, there's no point to going assault for me when I can just have a really fast moving assault suit, no much flexibility with it, could speed tank, get into stealth, or just slap some plates on it and make it really defensive. I like to screw around now that I can kick ass so getting a cheap scout with a decent gun would be fun :D i would not go proto yet though, not good enough with the thing for that lol This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
dust badger SOUND Mercs Of Sound Mind 371	Posted - 2014.01.14 15:39:00 - [9] - Quote I think the OP is drumming up targets for tomorrow :)
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 321	Posted - 2014.01.14 17:34:00 - [10] - Quote nah first i need to finish dropsuit upgrades, I don't have enough in biotics, but the day will come soon! This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.

Jake Bloodworth molon labe. Public Disorder. 279	Posted - 2014.01.14 17:40:00 - [11] - Quote I have been playing around with my Dragonfly scout with an AR. I'm putting up some good games with it. I find tons of scouts topping the killboards in games. I think scouts as a community have managed to wage a fantastic war of misinformation on the forums. This has caused the general playerbase to think of scouts as underpowered and sorely in need of buffs. Actually playing the game holds a different story. I am seeing a lot of people moving to tanked scouts suits with rifles. I think the stupidly boring scan meta has pushed the scout(Gallente anyway) into a good place combat wise.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 321	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:03:00 - [12] - Quote It's crazy that people think it's underpowered when they try to use it the same way everyone else fights, it's not a frontline fighter. Best scout i've ever seen kicked my ass, i ended that match 1-12, he had a duvolle, remote explosives, and nova knives and omg i just couldn't kill him. I even pulled out a couple of my proto ridiculous suits, he made me come at him stupid and blind and wrecked muh face, that's where the power of the scout lies, they're fast, flexible, stealthy, and annoying as ****, and in whatever game I play I love playing the guy that can get an entire squad chasing after him just because they're mad. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Lucrezia LeGrand 209	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:09:00 - [13] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: I have been playing around with my Dragonfly scout with an AR. I'm putting up some good games with it. I find tons of scouts topping the killboards in games. I think scouts as a community have managed to wage a fantastic war of misinformation on the forums. This has caused the general playerbase to think of scouts as underpowered and sorely in need of buffs. Actually playing the game holds a different story. I am seeing a lot of people moving to tanked scouts suits with rifles. I think the stupidly boring scan meta has pushed the scout(Gallente anyway) into a good place combat wise. Well, usually a scout's WP gets padded with hacks and counter hacks, droplink WP's and other miscellaneous activity that results in a fairly decent Killboard position. If you're a scout and you can get up there mostly with kills I salute you. (--_--)7 P.s. if there's a secret organization that gives misinformation to hide their secrets, I think it's the scrambler pistol users. ya- hoi hoi
Chesire Ventus Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:10:00 - [14] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: That scouts were so much fun, even before cloaks come out gotdamn it's great being able to zip about the field after using a tanked out logi...just gotta get a good fast gun on it and that thing will wreck. When the Logi could match the Scout's speed it was an issue but now that everybody's worried about TTK and eHP, zipping across the field feels much better. It brings back memories of me in closed beta running around and stealth killing. The SMG is good and honestly if you have a mix between the SMG and Scrambler Pistol, you can really kill. SMG rips through armor and burns through shields. Scrambler Pistol breaks shields and two-three shots armor.
Chesire Ventus Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:16:00 - [15] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: It's crazy that people think it's underpowered when they try to use it the same way everyone else fights, it's not a frontline fighter. Best scout i've ever seen kicked my ass, i ended that match 1-12, he had a duvolle, remote explosives, and nova knives and omg i just couldn't kill him. I even pulled out a couple of my proto ridiculous suits, he made me come at him stupid and blind and wrecked muh face, that's where the power of the scout lies, they're fast, flexible, stealthy, and annoying as ****, and in whatever game I play I love playing the guy that can get an entire squad chasing after him just because they're mad. They are under powered though. UP =/= Useless. Even the PLC can be a deadly beast in the right hands. Like the heavies, they lack many utensils to do their duties. They're getting a very important tool in the next update hopefully. Heavies are still stuck with HMGs and Forgeguns and no harderners or resistance modules. The scouts only have the Shotgun, Nova Knives, and Sniper Rifle as well, and the Sniper Rifle doesn't even do it's best work with a scout. We'll need more Scout-focused weapons but that's for another day.
Sgt Buttscratch 1301	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:25:00 - [16] - Quote No-one told me how fking fun lvl 72 melee zero is with the OP levels.. lolol. Naw since I specced into scouts, game became a lot funnier, people just don't see that ** coming. Tank refunded points wel spent IMO. Nothing funnier than doing laps around an objective shotgunning face. Hoping for a full respec with da new (if there is indeed new **), so I can remove some of the weapons I have skilled into, concentrate on whats good. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 321	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:38:00 - [17] - Quote Chesire Ventus wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: It's crazy that people think it's underpowered when they try to use it the same way everyone else fights, it's not a frontline fighter. Best scout i've ever seen kicked my ass, i ended that match 1-12, he had a duvolle, remote explosives, and nova knives and omg i just couldn't kill him. I even pulled out a couple of my proto ridiculous suits, he made me come at him stupid and blind and wrecked muh face, that's where the power of the scout lies, they're fast, flexible, stealthy, and annoying as ****, and in whatever game I play I love playing the guy that can get an entire squad chasing after him just because they're mad. They are under powered though. UP =/= Useless. Even the PLC can be a deadly beast in the right hands. Like the heavies, they lack many utensils to do their duties. They're getting a very important tool in the next update hopefully. Heavies are still stuck with HMGs and Forgeguns and no harderners or resistance modules. The scouts only have the Shotgun, Nova Knives, and Sniper Rifle as well, and the Sniper Rifle doesn't even do it's best work with a scout. We'll need more Scout-focused weapons but that's for another day. nooooooo a scout with an assault combat rifle or rail rifle would be way better, you can still keep your distance and you can keep moving, honestly shotguns are great but being that close is a serious hazard, but any one of the rifles on that thing...it's just insane, if your reaction speed is good you can take shots when no-one is looking and then just bail when you need to, fight the same way but basically realize you're squishy but can still run. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Green Living 0uter.Heaven 1145	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:41:00 - [18] - Quote Scout suits saved me from quitting the game two weeks ago. Two weeks have passed and I haven't logged in for five days. Guess I'll try heavy next.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 321	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:42:00 - [19] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: No-one told me how fking fun lvl 72 melee zero is with the OP levels.. lolol. Naw since I specced into scouts, game became a lot funnier, people just don't see that ** coming. Tank refunded points wel spent IMO. Nothing funnier than doing laps around an objective shotgunning face. Hoping for a full respec with da new (if there is indeed new **), so I can remove some of the weapons I have skilled into, concentrate on whats good. indeed! and yeah i gave up on zero at level 50 because the melee damage just couldn't keep up with the escalation. but yeah i'd be good with the weapons i got, I can make that scout work, and being basically undetectable would be fantastic. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 728	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:45:00 - [20] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I have mixed feelings about the FOTM thing. Sure I like scouts to be popular,... ??? Why would you want scouts to be popular?!?!? We need medium frame fodder to feed on, otherwise, we'll starve!

Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 408	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:09:00 - [21] - Quote I run std min scout with combat rifle, basic damp and scanner sometimes. Its a blast. You really do get behind enemy lines and just mess everyone up. But as Ive stated before, theres nothing this build can do that the min assault cant do a little better. One of the other scouts with two equipment slots would be more flexible. Cloak/RE, Cloak/Scanner, Scanner/RE would all be fun combos. Unfortunately, min scout would still need a boost, cause right now it feels like a gimped version of my min assault (loaded with dampeners)
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 406	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:11:00 - [22] - Quote I specced into Minja Scout about a month ago, I already had biotics l5 with proto Cardiac regs and adv kin cats So I thought, why not try Nova Knives w/Minja Scout Despite all the talk that scouts are rubbish and need 'buffing' I have had scores ranging from 10/10 - 40/2 rarely going negative as a scout As for FoTm, that's always going to be an issue when dust bunnies get new toys So I look forward to seeing more scouts used and hopefully some more Scout V Scout fights As for cloaks.... lol In two weeks of playing against cloaks, we will all learn how to counter them Anyone unable to do this fully deserves the deaths for failing to adapt Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 381	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:26:00 - [23] - Quote I'm at lvl 3 Gallente Scout and lvl 5 dampening and range amplification. My AR G/1 fit is at least as powerful as my best C/1 or A/1 fits. I hate it when I can't get a good angle on a fight and have to take a long detour before I'm in an advantageous position. I love it when I spot an isolated group of three mediums and then they all die one after the other without even getting to look at me.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 323	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:52:00 - [24] - Quote Well it seems like it's all about preference, yes u can use assault if you want a little more health and room to put on modules for speed and stealth but I'm more concerned with inherent benefits, the scout is already speedy and stealthy at base, that's a bonus that no other suit starts with and something worth playing with. Also does the dragonfly scout get the bonuses from the gallente scout skill? This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 323	Posted - 2014.01.14 21:52:00 - [25] - Quote just got 9-0 using a dragonfly and an assault CR with like 300 total health, didn't even break through my armor because I can do a crapload of damage and bail before they even realize im there. did another match with 33-9, used my proto suit with a boundless CR and about 1000 health and i feel like I did worse with that, for going solo scout definitely dominates. dis iz crazy! This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 16	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:12:00 - [26] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: lawlmz... All these 'damz Scoutz are fun' tourists don't last 5 games before going back to their tanked logi and never coming back. We'll see about scout being FOTM, if it truly gets to be FOTM, CCP would have dug themselves even deeper. I foresee a lot of people dumping a ton of points into scouts after the respec because "cool cloaks, I'm going to be a ninja!" and then get frustrated and want their points back, only to realize that is the last respec we'll likely ever get. Which is why I shall use my previous experience in CCP games to horde all the SP back that I get and sit on it for a long time. To be honest on my main I only ever use militia / BPO stuff now anyway. So I will be happy to be a 0 sp militia noob again. I will make lots of isk and right now that is my primary concern.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 324	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:37:00 - [27] - Quote Probably just gonna go right back into logistics because that's just my thing, plus since it's gallente logistics...omg dem scanners are going to be ridiculous, plus I can just be a logi with a cloak, it will be less effective but still a cloak. I don't understand why people would use the respec on anything other than what they know would work, yes everything would be a little different if it hit but come on you've been playing the game a long time you know your playstyle, don't experiment. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Lorhak Gannarsein 1213	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:37:00 - [28] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: Well it seems like it's all about preference, yes u can use assault if you want a little more health and room to put on modules for speed and stealth but I'm more concerned with inherent benefits, the scout is already speedy and stealthy at base, that's a bonus that no other suit starts with and something worth playing with. Also does the dragonfly scout get the bonuses from the gallente scout skill? Yes. Someone's going to come along and say I'm wrong, so I will first point out the 'Dren' and 'Templar' logi suits which get repair bonuses from their respective skills. PRO tanker and proud.
Onesimus Tarsus 822	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:40:00 - [29] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: Well it seems like it's all about preference, yes u can use assault if you want a little more health and room to put on modules for speed and stealth but I'm more concerned with inherent benefits, the scout is already speedy and stealthy at base, that's a bonus that no other suit starts with and something worth playing with. Also does the dragonfly scout get the bonuses from the gallente scout skill? Yes. Someone's going to come along and say I'm wrong, so I will first point out the 'Dren' and 'Templar' logi suits which get repair bonuses from their respective skills. Nope, you're right. Love my Dragonfly Scout. Too bad they're about to remove it from the game. I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 325	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:42:00 - [30] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: Well it seems like it's all about preference, yes u can use assault if you want a little more health and room to put on modules for speed and stealth but I'm more concerned with inherent benefits, the scout is already speedy and stealthy at base, that's a bonus that no other suit starts with and something worth playing with. Also does the dragonfly scout get the bonuses from the gallente scout skill? Yes. Someone's going to come along and say I'm wrong, so I will first point out the 'Dren' and 'Templar' logi suits which get repair bonuses from their respective skills. Yep, that settles it, it's about 4 mil SP away (maybe less because I'll probably get impatient) but I'm gonna get into scouts, I already kick ass with the dragonfly, and with what's basically an extra profile dampener on it...holy crap, now I forgot is the new gallente scout suit bonus a profile dampening one or is it range amplification, aside from the cloaking skill I mean. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.



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