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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:11:00 -
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It is..
Protostomping squads Tankstomping squads ProtoInfandTankstomping squads
No Vehicles No Squads No Orbitals
Fixed.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
619
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:17:00 -
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BattleDuty 514 is just sad all around.
Maybe 1.8 will save it just like 1.7 was supposed to, lol.
Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514
Working as intended.
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
171
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:24:00 -
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I stopped playing them about a month ago. Your solutions look good. |
Larry The L0BSTER
Living Like Larry Schwag
4
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:31:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:It is..
Protostomping squads Tankstomping squads ProtoInfandTankstomping squads
No Vehicles No Squads No Orbitals
Fixed.
Fixed.........Are you kidding me, so what your telling me is because you are getting stomped out by well run efficient squads who are running proto 99% of the time; we should not be allowed to squad up with our friends. Lets use logic here I'm a vet therefor my friend tend to be vets so they tend to have 20mil+Sp which means they tend to have proto suits and we tend to stomp well enough that we make a profit.....I apologize for that inconvience. Now no vehicles seems like a smart idea just cause ambush should be a more infantry based battle and as far as orbital how about only Orbitals can be gotten from...A squad with only kills counting towards points since its ambush and increase ambush orbital to 3000
"They called me crazy when I made a scout.....Who laughing now! oh...Wait they are stll?!"
World of Tanks : Dust 514
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3430
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:36:00 -
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o_0
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Denchlad 7
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:37:00 -
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Ambush. *deletes* Fixed.
If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world.
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
185
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:37:00 -
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It'd be interesting if you had to pay a fee to bring in proto gear, and you don't get that fee back even if you don't get killed. Stop making it free extra power (risking is not the same as paying anything)
Dunno exactly why or how you'd implement no squads. |
Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:45:00 -
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Larry The L0BSTER wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:It is..
Protostomping squads Tankstomping squads ProtoInfandTankstomping squads
No Vehicles No Squads No Orbitals
Fixed. Fixed.........Are you kidding me, so what your telling me is because you are getting stomped out by well run efficient squads who are running proto 99% of the time; we should not be allowed to squad up with our friends. Lets use logic here I'm a vet therefor my friend tend to be vets so they tend to have 20mil+Sp which means they tend to have proto suits and we tend to stomp well enough that we make a profit.....I apologize for that inconvience. Now no vehicles seems like a smart idea just cause ambush should be a more infantry based battle and as far as orbital how about only Orbitals can be gotten from...A squad with only kills counting towards points since its ambush and increase ambush orbital to 3000
Actually, I'm getting killed by 6 man tank squads, the proto squads don't bother me none but the moment 6 man tank squads rock up, Militia or not, you're done, it's game over. Surely Ambush should be more of a chilled out thing over the seriousness of Skirmish/Dom, Infantry running about but no squads so even the bad players can kill.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Jason Pearson
3872
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:49:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:It'd be interesting if you had to pay a fee to bring in proto gear, and you don't get that fee back even if you don't get killed. Stop making it free extra power (risking is not the same as paying anything)
Dunno exactly why or how you'd implement no squads.
I'd settle for just removal of Vehicles, we spoke about it in IRC earlier and it sounded like a good idea, no squads, no orbitals, no vehicles, just infantry smashing eachother with no teamwork other than that found in the match, a very fair mode.
Now, we had some guys whine in IRC that if we should just run our own tanks and protogear, sure, I could do that, not many tankers can fight me 1v1, but 1v6 is a lot more difficult when you can't spawn in a tank and have the enemy firing at every RDV that flies in.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:56:00 -
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Some of us are happy that certain people are practically living in Ambush. Fewer douches in Skirmish or Domination.
MCC Lounge Lizard
Forums > Game
Fix the game CCP
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4321
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:56:00 -
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When one team manages to gain dominance with 3+ tanks and the other team has 1 or no tanks to counter, Ambush has problems.
Part of the problem is the limited map size.
Small maps should have smaller vehicle cap - maybe 3 at most - and an alternative, faster method of vehicle deployment so they actually make it onto the battlefield.
Also, there need to be large map Ambush battles as well as those on the smaller maps, where vehicles are less of a game-breaker than they can be on the smaller maps. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:02:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Blake Kingston wrote:It'd be interesting if you had to pay a fee to bring in proto gear, and you don't get that fee back even if you don't get killed. Stop making it free extra power (risking is not the same as paying anything)
Dunno exactly why or how you'd implement no squads. I'd settle for just removal of Vehicles, we spoke about it in IRC earlier and it sounded like a good idea, no squads, no orbitals, no vehicles, just infantry smashing eachother with no teamwork other than that found in the match, a very fair mode. Now, we had some guys whine in IRC that if we should just run our own tanks and protogear, sure, I could do that, not many tankers can fight me 1v1, but 1v6 is a lot more difficult when you can't spawn in a tank and have the enemy firing at every RDV that flies in.
this. My best ambush games recently have been outside the tank. Just run away from them. Saves me ISK and frustration, after all; four double damage modded Sicas will smash through even triple hardeners.
PRO tanker and proud.
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
522
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:08:00 -
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Larry The L0BSTER wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:It is..
Protostomping squads Tankstomping squads ProtoInfandTankstomping squads
No Vehicles No Squads No Orbitals
Fixed. Fixed.........Are you kidding me, so what your telling me is because you are getting stomped out by well run efficient squads who are running proto 99% of the time; we should not be allowed to squad up with our friends. Lets use logic here I'm a vet therefor my friend tend to be vets so they tend to have 20mil+Sp which means they tend to have proto suits and we tend to stomp well enough that we make a profit.....I apologize for that inconvience. Now no vehicles seems like a smart idea just cause ambush should be a more infantry based battle and as far as orbital how about only Orbitals can be gotten from...A squad with only kills counting towards points since its ambush and increase ambush orbital to 3000
Matchmaking needs to pit squads against other squads and needs to search to fill that requirement before filling some random match. I never understand how Scotty decides this team needs a full squad or 3 but this other team needs pure randoms.
Squads want to be challenged they don't want to just stomp. Randoms actually want to play not continually be summed into the ground. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
3554
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:11:00 -
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No ambush, it's a pointless and nonsensical game mode.
Fixed.
If you use anything but BPOs there, you're a dumbass.
We used to have a time machine
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Jason Pearson
3874
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:13:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:No ambush, it's a pointless and nonsensical game mode.
Fixed.
If you use anything but BPOs there, you're a dumbass.
I like Ambush when it's not a stomp, two decent teams with just Infantry can be a lot of fun.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
268
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:15:00 -
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Now you see why I cry about tanks...
I can take proto stomping squads.. I actually have decent gungame and proto to fight back in numerous ways.
But with tanks it's either Railgun or leave match.
Nowadays I just go with the later because tanks spam is scrubby as ****
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Forum Warrior LV. 4 | Warframe is awesome! | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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Eurydice Itzhak
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
326
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:28:00 -
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I'm late but:
No ambush.
Fixed. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
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Posted - 2014.01.14 00:37:00 -
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Ambush is pretty bad mode,the only reason it's even played is because you get payouts faster doing ambush games then Dom or Skirmish but you deal with more bull*hit game to game,i guess it's a designed traded off
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
molon labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.14 00:50:00 -
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yea all these people who spent months playing and supporting this game to earn their proto gear are pure garbage, and then they have the audacity to squad up with their friends!? what the ****, these people should be executed on live national television like the cheaters they are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3jzMyYgPQs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHapAsmvGEU
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
289
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Posted - 2014.01.14 00:55:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:Ambush is pretty bad mode,the only reason it's even played is because you get payouts faster doing ambush games then Dom or Skirmish but you deal with more bull*hit game to game,i guess it's a designed traded off
Sometimes you want to farm ISK and Ambush is it...I wish the payouts were higher for Skirmishes or Dominations, but you just have to roll with the punches. VS tank spammers you need suicide LAVs. VS spawn campers you need REs. VS random n00bs you need proto suits and weapons with damage mods because your only competition is your own team in a race for points.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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The Robot Devil
molon labe. Public Disorder.
1548
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:00:00 -
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This will fix it, no more proto stomping ever and if you do get protostomped then it would be your fault for being somewhere you shouldn't.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
493
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:05:00 -
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I went up against 6 tanks and 2 assault dropships today in Ambush. |
Maciej Szambelan
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:33:00 -
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No vehicles idea sounds good.. I don't know why people complain about people running proto, it's in the game, people have played long time to skill it and they have got it now, it's theirs to use. I run Adv and I've got a long road to unlock proto and when I will I will use it because I spend hours on playing and skilling, be patient, skill up and fight. Even full adv character is way too strong for fresh players, should we complain about that too? |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:35:00 -
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Larry The L0BSTER wrote: Fixed.........Are you kidding me, so what your telling me is because you are getting stomped out by well run efficient squads who are running proto 99% of the time; we should not be allowed to squad up with our friends. Lets use logic here I'm a vet therefor my friend tend to be vets so they tend to have 20mil+Sp which means they tend to have proto suits and we tend to stomp well enough that we make a profit.....I apologize for that inconvience. Now no vehicles seems like a smart idea just cause ambush should be a more infantry based battle and as far as orbital how about only Orbitals can be gotten from...A squad with only kills counting towards points since its ambush and increase ambush orbital to 3000
Paragraphs are your friend :P
Anyways, I don't think it would be a good idea to make WP for kills only count towards Warbarge Srtrikes, as that would mean a squad needs 60 kills for an OB. That removes Warbarges from Ambush entirely and makes them very rare in Ambush OMS.
No vehicles? But what about Lo-Jack?
Anyways, what we need is better matchmaking. Remember that FW match where we won by 1 clone? Imagine if every match was like that.
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
8
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:58:00 -
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First Proto gear should be left as end game content, available in place where everybody use them IMHO. I have 23 mil SP and always run advanced suit because our corp does not have 400 mil coming from district per weeks. Their suit are free, so no cost. Nyan San is a good example of simply making the game less fun just because of that. They could run in advanced mode but as a good friend from outer heavens said to me there is no incencitive to do otherwise, we have the cash. Even if we loose money in pub game, we do not care. So this makes the mode in itself unbalanced.
Now vehicles should be free in all game modes for transportation, general barge and LAV's. HAV's and Assault Dropship should have a WP cost paid by the team to deploy them. They give significant war advantage, but when they are gained through playing it makes it more rewarding and more balanced because you have to make choices in your team. Right now its total free for all, first in first win ! |
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