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BAD FURRY
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Posted - 2014.01.13 16:23:00 -
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NEVER !!!!
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:00:00 -
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T8R Raid wrote:What's your reasoning, i was thinking it would be awesome to just cruise around with a pilot, launching boarding parties, get hosed by internal defenses, capturing space stations, defending against away teams. Soooo much potential.
im a Eve player and Everyone like me will all ways say NO !!!!!!!!!
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:18:00 -
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Calanorn Blamed wrote:I think one reason Eve players might be against boarding parties is because in Eve, unlike most games, equipment is expensive. It is very expensive. In fact, if you are a lone single player, you can spend months mining asteroids to get enough money to buy and outfit a moderate mid tier ship, only to see it vaporized in an instant as soon as you leave the garden gate. Occasionally you can read in the popular press about people losing ships and equipment that would be valued at thousands of dollars/euros of real money if you use the plex system to value them. No one wants to lose such a valuable ship to a new weapon. Flying is dangerous enough as it is. Another reason has to do with the politics of Eve. I suspect from the numbers that most eve players have been playing for a long time. While changes around the margins are fine, I suspect a lot of Eve players would rather see no changes at all. They are the Ancien Regime. I am reminded of the ancient Chinese inventor who was executed for building a flying machine by the emperor who feared this new weapon would upset the balance of power. Dust, in the setting of the Eve universe, is just such a new weapon.
Awesome someone uses there brain .
its all about the time delay and isk to start no one wants a no risk dust players to jump into someones ship and take it over when that one ship may take yrs to get into and fly and fit and then mill.- bills of Isk make or buy.
2nd no eve player want to be in a fleet battle and have to see a thing pop up saying you have to wate 15 mins to see if your ship can fight off a boarding party at the same time as its being blown up or shot at. and what will be the point if you did take that ship over all the eve player has to say is on TS is Guys they boarded my ship im Red and then boom the whole fleet shots the boarded ship and kills it .
3rd trade Eve is riding on the back of pve but only stands up rite because of the ships and stuff that it players make and sell at there own prices .NO ONE want to be o most docking to a dock and have ( YOUR SHIPS BEEN BORDERED !) and then looses all the stuff they spent in some cases Months to build ! and so many man hrs to months get the stuff to start building ! The Eve market would go to hell in a hart beat as soon as the up coming pact notes came out ! if you dont know what i mean read up on drone gold and what happened even be for it was removed .
4th the cost dust vs eve how much are is ech side making of this? what the point if be for you boarded the eve player hits self self destruct so even if you win the ship it only takes 2 mins for the ship to blow up how would you feel in dust if you got 2 mins into the game in your mill isk fit and BOOM ! game over and the ships gone and you lost that isk on your fit ? now back to eve players what would be the point if you did take the ship with a boarding party ? do you have the skills to even fly it ? how would a dust player fly a CAP or even a subcap ship if they dont have the skills and some of them skills are in the mills of SP to get to ! would anyone rely care then if they knew that had to train to battle ship lv 5 ?or even to 1 from the ground up costing over mills of SP just to get a No-combat roll skill ?? let me ask this How meany of you trained corp or alliance skills to 5 ?
this is just the top of the crap mountain THIS is why and every Eve player whos not a newbe to the game will say NO ! there is and will all ways be many many many facts of why ship boarding is bad for the game of eve and mite as well for Dust to !
to some this up when Eve player aka Daddy saids "NO" to Dust player aka child "You better not ask why not or do it" or where grabbing the leather belt and beating you with it !
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Posted - 2014.01.26 19:28:00 -
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4447 wrote:you would have to get the eve ship down to 5-10% HP left, So to board the ship.
you never played eve maybe you should play the game for a yr and then re think what you said !
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Posted - 2014.02.13 23:05:00 -
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hell FACE wrote:why not have dusties or even drones in the EVE ship protecting it from enemy dusties or drones. It creates a new type of strategy for players of both EVE and Dust.
NOOO !!!! IT DONT WORK LIKE THAT !!!
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Posted - 2014.02.21 03:31:00 -
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Bizar Wolf wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:hell FACE wrote:why not have dusties or even drones in the EVE ship protecting it from enemy dusties or drones. It creates a new type of strategy for players of both EVE and Dust. NOOO !!!! IT DONT WORK LIKE THAT !!! ...You're not doing much to help yourself with your 9 year old attitude here. That being said, I wish that a working system could exist for battles inside of ships, but, like it has been previously stated, no system would ever work for both parties and somebody would always hate it. Now, like Kitt said, stations would be a great idea for this kind of thing. I personally would love to blow up a station owned by a rival corp from the inside, destroying their assets like that. Or, there could be boarding parties on war barges. That way, EVE players aren't really affected and Dusters can get our desire to board ships out.
im trying to be silly or maybe your have no sens of humor !
and no its not going to work you have fleet battle that take any where from may be 1 min - 1 day where players Pay to play this game called eve and to top it off let say you bored guest what that ships then gets blown up by over 400 + guns all firing at it as soon as the battle starts ! what do you do then? what if the battle soo big that time dilation kicks in what do you do when the ship you want to borad and it takes over 2 hrs for fighting for that ship to start ! dilation video
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Posted - 2014.02.21 03:36:00 -
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more fleet vid
if you dont know ech ship is flown by one player !
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:T8R Raid wrote:What's your reasoning, i was thinking it would be awesome to just cruise around with a pilot, launching boarding parties, get hosed by internal defenses, capturing space stations, defending against away teams. Soooo much potential. im a Eve player and Everyone like me will all ways say NO !!!!!!!!! I play EVE and I say yes!
cool bro plz tell me your name in eve if you dont mined ! and what you do in it
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:49:00 -
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AmlSeb wrote:EVE players have to accept that they-¦re not alone anymore. The day will come when EVE players will be equal to DUST players and Valkyrie players. Instead of complaining that a new power arrived, adapt and use that power for your own benefits. Adapt or die.
How I think of DUST players boarding EVE ships: It-¦s pretty much impossible to destroy a ship as DUST player. Even a Frigate-sized ship as the Rifter is as big as a Boeing 747. They and destroyers could be destroyed by one team but here you have to consider their speed so boarding them could take quite some attempts and would thus cost way too much. Cruisers and Battlecruisers would be the smallest ships boarding would be possible within a few attempts but they are already around 500m long and over 100-200m high and wide so they would have around the size of our current skirmish maps with all floors combined. You-¦d need a hell lot of energy to even damage such a ship. Battleships would be about the size of our whole map, not just the accessible parts and i don-¦t even talk about Capitals as they would be as big that the whole volume of our maps would fit in several times.
So far about the ship sizes, now on to the ways of attacking. There would be several ways to attack which are differently effective to each ship size 1) Bombing them. It-¦s simply: Mercs place bomb and bomb damage all modules around it. The module takes heat damage so the player can overheat it for a shorter period. Of course the ship would take damage as well but from the inside to the outside (Hull->Armor->Shield) This would terminate all mercs that are not in a safe room that is locked from the room with the bomb.
2) Shutting down modules. Here you would attack the module directly and turn it off. The larger the module the more hacking terminals must be hacked. The module will be offline as long as all terminals are held by the attackers. Turning the module off and on in EVE restarts the system and all terminals have to be hacked again. For all who don-¦t play EVE: to activate a module on the flight you need 95% of your capacitor.
3) Shutting down ship systems. Like with modules it should be possible to shut down ship systems like the capacitor, the warp drive or the shield system but this would require you to hold all terminals all over the ship in order to only start the shut down process. They have to be held for like ten minutes then until the systems are shut down. Once one terminal is hacked by the defenders the systems start process begins and they are back up in five minutes.
This is how I expect it to be and as you can see would it be quite balanced and to really completely destroy the ship it either has to be already in like 20% structure or the pilot has to have nothing fitted against infantry or no infantry hired that can defend his ship.
and this Quote:when EVE players will be equal to DUST players and Valkyrie players. Will never happen ! EVER !
Dont you get it In eve You Pay to play the game dust is a Free to play your only 2nd rate to us and will Always BE 2nd rate ! ! as for PVE Valkyrie its not even going to be part of the the eve world its a PVE sole to co-op game thats not going to join eve at all its just like saying World of Darkness will be the Eve online Sim for players with Real life social problems! no Valkyries is not joining us it was just a idea someone came up with when they where bored and was messing around in there thanny eve side and tolled a dev or 2 " hay man this whould be cool if we could fly are fighters around.
as for everything els you posted NO ! if your a eve play and think this is a good idea your going to get podded by every eve players WHO'S NOT A NOOB or new to this game ! and No will be what CCP will say to you do to the fact they care more about eve players who will Stop playing eve should they add something this ******** !
look i know you never played eve i get it some of you play eve but the only thing you done is less then 1 yr in to game and a your still a virgin when it comes to a Null sec Fleet fight or a gang over 10 ships who kill other players.
i know you think its a good idea but like communism that looks good on paper but sucks in real life your idea is one in the same !.
if you want to play a game where you can dock troops to take over a ship play dark space !
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Posted - 2014.03.09 02:49:00 -
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AmlSeb wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:AmlSeb wrote:EVE players have to accept that they-¦re not alone anymore. The day will come when EVE players will be equal to DUST players and Valkyrie players. Instead of complaining that a new power arrived, adapt and use that power for your own benefits. Adapt or die.
How I think of DUST players boarding EVE ships: It-¦s pretty much impossible to destroy a ship as DUST player. Even a Frigate-sized ship as the Rifter is as big as a Boeing 747. They and destroyers could be destroyed by one team but here you have to consider their speed so boarding them could take quite some attempts and would thus cost way too much. Cruisers and Battlecruisers would be the smallest ships boarding would be possible within a few attempts but they are already around 500m long and over 100-200m high and wide so they would have around the size of our current skirmish maps with all floors combined. You-¦d need a hell lot of energy to even damage such a ship. Battleships would be about the size of our whole map, not just the accessible parts and i don-¦t even talk about Capitals as they would be as big that the whole volume of our maps would fit in several times.
So far about the ship sizes, now on to the ways of attacking. There would be several ways to attack which are differently effective to each ship size 1) Bombing them. It-¦s simply: Mercs place bomb and bomb damage all modules around it. The module takes heat damage so the player can overheat it for a shorter period. Of course the ship would take damage as well but from the inside to the outside (Hull->Armor->Shield) This would terminate all mercs that are not in a safe room that is locked from the room with the bomb.
2) Shutting down modules. Here you would attack the module directly and turn it off. The larger the module the more hacking terminals must be hacked. The module will be offline as long as all terminals are held by the attackers. Turning the module off and on in EVE restarts the system and all terminals have to be hacked again. For all who don-¦t play EVE: to activate a module on the flight you need 95% of your capacitor.
3) Shutting down ship systems. Like with modules it should be possible to shut down ship systems like the capacitor, the warp drive or the shield system but this would require you to hold all terminals all over the ship in order to only start the shut down process. They have to be held for like ten minutes then until the systems are shut down. Once one terminal is hacked by the defenders the systems start process begins and they are back up in five minutes.
This is how I expect it to be and as you can see would it be quite balanced and to really completely destroy the ship it either has to be already in like 20% structure or the pilot has to have nothing fitted against infantry or no infantry hired that can defend his ship. and this Quote:when EVE players will be equal to DUST players and Valkyrie players. Will never happen ! EVER ! Dont you get it In eve You Pay to play the game dust is a Free to play your only 2nd rate to us and will Always BE 2nd rate ! ! as for PVE Valkyrie its not even going to be part of the the eve world its a PVE sole to co-op game thats not going to join eve at all its just like saying World of Darkness will be the Eve online Sim for players with Real life social problems! no Valkyries is not joining us it was just a idea someone came up with when they where bored and was messing around in there thanny eve side and tolled a dev or 2 " hay man this whould be cool if we could fly are fighters around. as for everything els you posted NO ! if your a eve play and think this is a good idea your going to get podded by every eve players WHO'S NOT A NOOB or new to this game ! and No will be what CCP will say to you do to the fact they care more about eve players who will Stop playing eve should they add something this ******** ! look i know you never played eve i get it some of you play eve but the only thing you done is less then 1 yr in to game and a your still a virgin when it comes to a Null sec Fleet fight or a gang over 10 ships who kill other players. i know you think its a good idea but like communism that looks good on paper but sucks in real life your idea is one in the same !. if you want to play a game where you can dock troops to take over a ship play dark space ! From your reaction I'd rather say you're CoD player but anyways. I do play EVE and I do Null Sec PvP. You sir are nothing better than all those CoD kids complaining about their OP slayer weapon is getting nerfed. Did you even think about it? What's your point on this, your reasons for your hating? And don't tell me because mercs will blow up your ship cause that is technically impossible. Now grow some balls or go back to your mom and cry there that your toy broke. And btw: Learn to speak English Cheers, Aml
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bro are you trying to troll or are you rely have a commonsense deficiency ??
as for doing Null pvp plz tell us your toon name in eve !
last time i checked only New players and noob think your Bs is cool . and no its not mercs will blow up your ship its why the F! uses them when most fleets in a fight are on avg 50 km from the other fleet or more so no rly i dont think your a null sec player or a pvper or even have a eve toon more then 1 yr old.
and by the sounds of things your the rely CoD player as you have zero Clue what your talking about ! BUT Boy do you think your Bs is Hot !
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Posted - 2014.03.09 19:34:00 -
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AmlSeb wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:AmlSeb wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:and this Quote:when EVE players will be equal to DUST players and Valkyrie players. Will never happen ! EVER ! Dont you get it In eve You Pay to play the game dust is a Free to play your only 2nd rate to us and will Always BE 2nd rate ! ! as for PVE Valkyrie its not even going to be part of the the eve world its a PVE sole to co-op game thats not going to join eve at all its just like saying World of Darkness will be the Eve online Sim for players with Real life social problems! no Valkyries is not joining us it was just a idea someone came up with when they where bored and was messing around in there thanny eve side and tolled a dev or 2 " hay man this whould be cool if we could fly are fighters around. as for everything els you posted NO ! if your a eve play and think this is a good idea your going to get podded by every eve players WHO'S NOT A NOOB or new to this game ! and No will be what CCP will say to you do to the fact they care more about eve players who will Stop playing eve should they add something this ******** ! look i know you never played eve i get it some of you play eve but the only thing you done is less then 1 yr in to game and a your still a virgin when it comes to a Null sec Fleet fight or a gang over 10 ships who kill other players. i know you think its a good idea but like communism that looks good on paper but sucks in real life your idea is one in the same !. if you want to play a game where you can dock troops to take over a ship play dark space ! From your reaction I'd rather say you're CoD player but anyways. I do play EVE and I do Null Sec PvP. You sir are nothing better than all those CoD kids complaining about their OP slayer weapon is getting nerfed. Did you even think about it? What's your point on this, your reasons for your hating? And don't tell me because mercs will blow up your ship cause that is technically impossible. Now grow some balls or go back to your mom and cry there that your toy broke. And btw: Learn to speak English Cheers, Aml [ bro are you trying to troll or are you rely have a commonsense deficiency ?? as for doing Null pvp plz tell us your toon name in eve ! last time i checked only New players and noob think your Bs is cool . and no its not mercs will blow up your ship its why the F! uses them when most fleets in a fight are on avg 50 km from the other fleet or more so no rly i dont think your a null sec player or a pvper or even have a eve toon more then 1 yr old. and by the sounds of things your the rely CoD player as you have zero Clue what your talking about ! BUT Boy do you think your Bs is Hot ! 2) My EVE toon is AmISeb (with an upper case i) It's a young character but I played already some years ago but gave that character to a corp mate. 3) I know what I'm talking about. With all that written above it would be pretty like cap warfare, you prevent the enemy from running his mods. 4) As far as I can read your argument is your problem with it the size of the battles but I don't get why this is a problem. Drones or fighters have to travel as well and a cru would have to be brought to the enemy ship by a drone as well.I don't see a problem
wow 3 days old as for the other toon plz if you have the older one plz tell me its name if you gave it to a corp mate then the name should still be the same only if you sell the toon will the name be changed ! so until you can back that older toon up i can see why you be-leave in this bad idea.
and no you dont if you said POS bashing then yes CCP will and is going to do that but not on ships . if you dint know you can kill caps in a blink of a eye and most gang fights with out cap are still not closes anuff or long anuff to care about dropping the other guys shields RR when you can just Jam there RR or noot out there cap to 0 so there hardeners turn off and self reps and so must more why the hell would i or anyone want to drop dust players ? every thing els works just as fine and better !
so like i said NO
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Posted - 2014.03.17 16:25:00 -
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DAMIOS82 wrote:I have an 8 year old character does that count?
It's not about beeing able to defend yourself so much as it is about controll. i'll give an example; I have a caldari navy raven battleship, current value of 600-700 mil isk. But that's not the only thing on it, i also have to nearly 10 billion isk worth of rare modules on it, that i cannot insure due to eve's ways and my pilot itself has another 4-5 billion isk worth of hardware (implants). So one day i'm cruising thrue space and get ganked by one of the more commenly present russians gangs. Now normally i have my brains, tactics and options to either fight my way thrue or if it goes very sour flee in time with my pilot. Yet it would all depend on me. But now there comes another factor, namely incompetent dust bunnies. within those few seconds it would be impossible to debate some type of payment/contract for a good hardcore team. So that would mean i would be stuck with a random crew of well like i said incompetent bunnies. Granted there might be a few good ones among them, but even then as it is within dust itself over half of them will be useless and allthough the other half might make an effort, it simply would not be enough.
So to sum it all up. Everytime i fly thrue space i would be forced to make a gamble on the outcome of my severall billions isk BS/ pilot, while not beeing able to controll the possible outcome. yeah i'll pass. Hell i might aswell just give those gank gangs my ship straight away. Or even better then that if ccp forces this option on eve players, every time a team of bunnies hoppes around on my ship, i'll eject my modules, take my chances on those and press one simple button...self destruct.
There is only one person in controll of my ship, along with it's destiny and that is ME!!!
So like i said before there are plenty of other options for a simular experience, that could indeed include defence mechanism's to help. Just not personall stuff, unless ccp want's another JITA, in that case i'm sure i have a few capitals that are dying to go back to high sec space.
Awesome post
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:02:00 -
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Kitt 514 wrote:DAMIOS82 wrote:I have an 8 year old character does that count?
It's not about beeing able to defend yourself so much as it is about controll. i'll give an example; I have a caldari navy raven battleship, current value of 600-700 mil isk. But that's not the only thing on it, i also have to nearly 10 billion isk worth of rare modules on it, that i cannot insure due to eve's ways and my pilot itself has another 4-5 billion isk worth of hardware (implants). So one day i'm cruising thrue space and get ganked by one of the more commenly present russians gangs. Now normally i have my brains, tactics and options to either fight my way thrue or if it goes very sour flee in time with my pilot. Yet it would all depend on me. But now there comes another factor, namely incompetent dust bunnies. within those few seconds it would be impossible to debate some type of payment/contract for a good hardcore team. So that would mean i would be stuck with a random crew of well like i said incompetent bunnies. Granted there might be a few good ones among them, but even then as it is within dust itself over half of them will be useless and allthough the other half might make an effort, it simply would not be enough.
So to sum it all up. Everytime i fly thrue space i would be forced to make a gamble on the outcome of my severall billions isk BS/ pilot, while not beeing able to controll the possible outcome. yeah i'll pass. Hell i might aswell just give those gank gangs my ship straight away. Or even better then that if ccp forces this option on eve players, every time a team of bunnies hoppes around on my ship, i'll eject my modules, take my chances on those and press one simple button...self destruct.
There is only one person in controll of my ship, along with it's destiny and that is ME!!!
So like i said before there are plenty of other options for a simular experience, that could indeed include defence mechanism's to help. Just not personall stuff, unless ccp want's another JITA, in that case i'm sure i have a few capitals that are dying to go back to high sec space. Please tell me where you fly, and your eve character name. I would like to.... admire this ship of yours.
dont know bro but may i ask yours !!!?
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