DUST Search - [WORD] Why Proto?

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Baal Omniscient wrote:

CCP Logibro wrote:

Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that).

Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides.

Then I would like to officially request that we rename the "Balac" to the "ReGnYuM" then, and the "Krin" to the "xprotoman". Other officer weapons can be renamed by others, these belong to those two. Since day one of Dust, seeing them on the other side has caused a pucker factor 9.9 to run through the entire other team, and 99% of what I've seen them run has been the AR.

This could make for an interesting event. Perhaps a month-long contest where the goal is to get the highest number of kills with each prototype weapon. Those winners will get an officer version of that weapon named after them and they would be allowed to design the stats for it as well within CCP guidelines.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall. For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach" -Askura 10:3

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shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1304	Posted - 2014.01.13 10:43:00 - [1] - Quote For example Duvolle AR should be officer and GAR 21 should be prototype. The word prototype makes me think at something very rare, on the other hand, officer makes me think of something of high rank, but not rare as a prototype. "Our Blueberries are better than yours" *My Terribad Bolas Launcher*
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 711	Posted - 2014.01.13 10:48:00 - [2] - Quote shaman oga wrote: For example Duvolle AR should be officer and GAR 21 should be prototype. The word prototype makes me think at something very rare, on the other hand, officer makes me think of something of high rank, but not rare as a prototype. Prototype - Made singularly, not mass produced = higher specification Named Officer's weapon - i.e a famous warriors weapon of choice = unique "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1305	Posted - 2014.01.13 10:50:00 - [3] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Prototype - not mass produced Really? "Our Blueberries are better than yours" *My Terribad Bolas Launcher*
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 118	Posted - 2014.01.13 11:22:00 - [4] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Prototype - not mass produced Really? Yep.That's what prototypes are; early samples made for testing before mass production.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1306	Posted - 2014.01.13 11:23:00 - [5] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: shaman oga wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Prototype - not mass produced Really? Yep.That's what prototypes are; early samples made for testing before mass production. Really? "Our Blueberries are better than yours" *My Terribad Bolas Launcher*
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 407	Posted - 2014.01.13 11:23:00 - [6] - Quote I'm too for switch names between the two Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 712	Posted - 2014.01.13 11:42:00 - [7] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Prototype - not mass produced Really? Well if you want to be pedantic I suppose the correct term for these weapons would be ''single unit production'. This obviously doesn't sound particularly inspiring and doesn't have the appeal of the word 'Pro' in it. I personally wouldn't want them to change to officer weapons cus historically officers were issued with very pretty but ultimately inappropriate weapons - Like WWI the officers were entrenched and issued with pistol and Swagger Stick "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1306	Posted - 2014.01.13 11:52:00 - [8] - Quote The problem is that "proto weapons and suits" are spammed enough to make me think that, for example, a duvolle AR is mass produced, despite being a prototype. Modules have the word "Complex" that is different from "Prototype" "Our Blueberries are better than yours" *My Terribad Bolas Launcher*

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 4222	Posted - 2014.01.13 12:01:00 - [9] - Quote Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that). Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 120	Posted - 2014.01.13 12:04:00 - [10] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: shaman oga wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Prototype - not mass produced Really? Yep.That's what prototypes are; early samples made for testing before mass production. Really? Yep.

Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 470	Posted - 2014.01.13 12:08:00 - [11] - Quote I had the same thought a while back. No traction.
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 268	Posted - 2014.01.13 12:11:00 - [12] - Quote Keep in mind the effect that blueprints and nanite manufacture have on design and the scarcity of goods. No goods have inherent rarity, it's a question of access as part of the product development process.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1306	Posted - 2014.01.13 12:12:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that). Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. I would like to see the guys who use a duvolle on fire , for real, there should be a downside, if you want to use a prototype thing. It can be a great kick or a little burning damage for each shot. "Our Blueberries are better than yours" *My Terribad Bolas Launcher*
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1566	Posted - 2014.01.13 12:15:00 - [14] - Quote Well I'm still waiting on that officer SCR.... but on a side note I really do think all officer gear should be platinum like how the toxin SMG use to look. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 418	Posted - 2014.01.13 12:21:00 - [15] - Quote Prototype shouldn't necessarily always mean insanely super awesome limited edition with all the safety features removed and every dial set to 11... In EVE, the "prototype cloaking device" is actually the worst cloaking device, with flaws including severe penalties to maximum speed and the ship's targeting systems. I liked that it was named prototype but wasn't actually the best. Imo, a "prototype" description is great for really exotic stuff with unusual drawbacks but its a bit overdoing it to describe nearly every high end piece of equipment in the game as a prototype model
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2065	Posted - 2014.01.13 12:50:00 - [16] - Quote The officer weapons have beeing personally modifications on them surpassing the performance compared to any other weapon in that category. And because they did belong to somebody once they are ofcourse really rare. While prototype weapons can be reproduced by the manufacturer. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 115	Posted - 2014.01.13 12:58:00 - [17] - Quote I only got one question since officer weapons used to be owned by famous warriors who owned the laser rifle officer weapon? Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail Be safe, be orca safe.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1424	Posted - 2014.01.13 14:15:00 - [18] - Quote Echoist wrote: I only got one question since officer weapons used to be owned by famous warriors who owned the laser rifle officer weapon? Nobody. Not even those legendary officers would touch it, it's too UP. Hence, no Officer Laser Rifle. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1313	Posted - 2014.01.13 14:16:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. And there we have the seeds for the most awesome event ever. "We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
Goric Rumis Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 301	Posted - 2014.01.13 14:20:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that). In keeping with this reasoning, it would be nice to see prototype weapons have rates of failure or other more pronounced downsides in exchange for being more powerful. This would give us a more interesting trade-off to consider instead of just all-around better performance. The Tank Balancing Factor No One Is Discussing

Lorhak Gannarsein 1198	Posted - 2014.01.13 14:20:00 - [21] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. And there we have the seeds for the most awesome event ever. We'll need us some hardcore AI first :P PRO tanker and proud.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 904	Posted - 2014.01.13 14:25:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that). Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. Why not switch the names of ADV weapons with PRO weapons, I like unique names for proto... Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1! LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 289	Posted - 2014.01.13 14:34:00 - [23] - Quote I think it has more practical use as an acronym. MLT STD ADV PRO The four tiers. How else would they spell out the threat level to n00bs? The HUD says PRO, and while it is a bit of a stretch to describe everyone in a prototype suit as a PRO, it is a fair warning. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
X7 lion Swamp Marines 68	Posted - 2014.01.13 14:39:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that). Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. yea can you have the art team make comics of prototype weapons on normal "humans" hehehe
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 946	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:05:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that). Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. Then I would like to officially request that we rename the "Balac" to the "ReGnYuM" then, and the "Krin" to the "xprotoman". Other officer weapons can be renamed by others, these belong to those two. Since day one of Dust, seeing them on the other side has caused a pucker factor 9.9 to run through the entire other team, and 99% of what I've seen them run has been the AR. Buff passive scans & fix TTK! My Closed Beta Alts - Overlord Ulath, Overlord Bosse, Overlord Zero
Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 678	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:11:00 - [26] - Quote I always said Sniper rifles need to have a 10%+ chance on each shot fired to spontaneously explode, causing catastrophic damage to it's wielder, and any nearby personnel/equipment/vehicles/installations.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4944	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:11:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that). Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. Can you please supply more examples of kinks with prototype gear? I find this very entertaining, from a lore/roleplay persepctive. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4944	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:13:00 - [28] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that). Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. Then I would like to officially request that we rename the "Balac" to the "ReGnYuM" then, and the "Krin" to the "xprotoman". Other officer weapons can be renamed by others, these belong to those two. Since day one of Dust, seeing them on the other side has caused a pucker factor 9.9 to run through the entire other team, and 99% of what I've seen them run has been the AR. This could make for an interesting event. Perhaps a month-long contest where the goal is to get the highest number of kills with each prototype weapon. Those winners will get an officer version of that weapon named after them and they would be allowed to design the stats for it as well within CCP guidelines. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5638	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:25:00 - [29] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Within the context of the universe, the prototype gear is exactly that: prototype. While it might be easily accessible to you guys, it's much harder for anyone that isn't an immortal engineered death dealing machine to get their hands on, mainly because there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out (such as that issue where the Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle keeps breaking the test subject's arms, or the Duvolle Assault rifle keeps setting people on fire when they shoot it - but we'll get back to that). Officer weapons however are much rarer as they are specially modified for the officers in question (who are all skilled soldiers in their own right that you would not want to meet on a dark night) beyond what prototype gear provides. Then I would like to officially request that we rename the "Balac" to the "ReGnYuM" then, and the "Krin" to the "xprotoman". Other officer weapons can be renamed by others, these belong to those two. Since day one of Dust, seeing them on the other side has caused a pucker factor 9.9 to run through the entire other team, and 99% of what I've seen them run has been the AR. This could make for an interesting event. Perhaps a month-long contest where the goal is to get the highest number of kills with each prototype weapon. Those winners will get an officer version of that weapon named after them and they would be allowed to design the stats for it as well within CCP guidelines. Could we make the first Officer scrambler rifle? We must. "Face the enemy as a solid wall. For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach" -Askura 10:3
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1425	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:56:00 - [30] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: This could make for an interesting event. Perhaps a month-long contest where the goal is to get the highest number of kills with each prototype weapon. Those winners will get an officer version of that weapon named after them and they would be allowed to design the stats for it as well within CCP guidelines. I would very much like to see Virgin Destroyer's Imperial Scrambler Rifle be a real thing. Ninjanomyx's R4NT Rail Rifle? I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]



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