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Posted - 2014.01.13 13:24:00 -
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It's nice to see CCP have a similar idea to proficiency changes to me, I posted here (among other places) weeks ago that we should change proficiency skills to something other than a blanket damage buff, and they are even doing one of my alternatives and making them only increase the damage for that weapon's strength.
Not saying they took the idea from me, just saying it's nice to see an idea I was pushing for be implemented despite having serious doubts it was even possible for them to do. +1 to all CCP Devs for the rest of the day!
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:14:00 -
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Griffter D'nan wrote:Dirks Macker wrote:It doesn't make sense to address TTK until the eight new suits are introduced and we see what the TTK's are for the new heavies and commandos. Also, we need to see how fast an uncloaked scout can burn down the various suits. +1. And AFIK winmatar assault suit have crazy dmg potential (Sisi stats). Passive armour rep (devs didnt remove that. right?), bonus to dmg mods(!), and many hi-slots. Possible FOTM?
Glass cannon fits are hard to make FOTM, so I don't see our Matari suit ever hitting that point unless we manage to gain better armor tanking capabilities, either through higher PG/CPU or through base suit HP buffs. Neither of which I can really see happening. Now.... depending on the base speed of our Commando's & Heavies.... we may see some interesting movements there....
I certainly hope Minmatar Assault does not become FOTM, I really like being one of the few who use them. I specced to proto Minnie Assault in less than 10 minutes of logging into Uprising 1.0 (started DLing it the moment it was up for download lol) and have been proud to have been one of the few Matari assault players from day 1, I don't want a bunch of FOTM chasers flooding our ranks. I'm happy to see we are finally getting some much needed attention in the upcoming build, but being the next FOTM doesn't sound appealing in the slightest.
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:59:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:this may be unpopular but we hope TTK stays as is as we support tiercide. the biggest hurdle for new players is the health gap that ensures they have virtually no chance to kill high SP players [see their kdrs for proof]
the game will always struggle if high sp players have 3 and 4 times the health of beginners. the game should be focused on skill and have better gear & skills provide more subtle advantages. we ahve enjoyed seeing kills with militia weapons and we hope it continues. the days of the 4 minute bunnyhop battle are long gone and lets face it, they should be.
It increases the importance of smart squadplay and tactical maneuvering. It also makes a gunfight an actual gun fight rather than a DPS fight.
Teiricide is unnecessary as long as people are willing to learn to play smart instead of trying to run-and-gun. That is what drew many of us closed beta vet's to this game long ago, and it is what we've waited around this long to see again. Tactical play trumps many things right now, but with increased TTK it will trump everything. As it should.
BRING ME MY TTK FIX NAO!!!
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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Posted - 2014.01.13 18:44:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Tyjus Vacca wrote:
u might consider who ur talking to first. I fully understand and accept TTK for scouts will be short, assaults will be medium and heavies will be long in comparison..i have no problem with that. but right now TTK is about perfect.
FYI: i'm a Minmatar scout with 22M SP who uses the SMG and NK and specializes in CQC...my KDR is still well over 4 after the changes because of skill. Like he mentioned, make skill the #1 determiner as far as living or dying go. not gear.
What do you mean consider who I am talking to? What credibility do you bring to the table? If you're going to come in here and dispute the widely accepted opinion that TTK is too short, then you're going to have to provide some good evidence to support that claim. Evidence? Well why didnt u say so? Look at the KDRs of players before TTK was lowered and after. Look at rucdoc's site.....Weeklys are now in the 1.5 - 2.0 range and most are dropping fast. Before that anything lower than 3.0 couldn't be considered elite. Many people were in the 5/6 range and higher...why? because high SP players could farm new players like nothing you've ever seen. Now no one can just shrug off a militia assault rifle and ur whining about it. Look at the KDRs in quality shooters and compare them. Above a 3.0 is something only snipers usually see. Here its the norm if ur any good. Some of you are seeing your KDRs dive and ur taking it personally when u shouldnt because the game itself is getting better.
You are acting like the nerfs are only hitting the militia weapons. Actually, they will be hitting the higher SP players harder. If, for instance, they drop all assault rifle damage by 10%, 10% of the damage off of a militia AR will be less of a damage drop than 10% off of a Duvolle. Also, if the proficiency skill change is implemented, then the damage bonus high SP players using an AR have against armor will be removed altogether, further reducing the gap between high and low SP players.
So yes, low SP players will have to use up more of a clip to kill high SP players. And the same will be true in reverse. And you are only discussing the side of this that supports your arguments, despite the fact that it actually shortens the gap between new players and vets. Explain please?
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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Posted - 2014.01.13 18:56:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Tyjus Vacca wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Tyjus Vacca wrote:
u might consider who ur talking to first. I fully understand and accept TTK for scouts will be short, assaults will be medium and heavies will be long in comparison..i have no problem with that. but right now TTK is about perfect.
FYI: i'm a Minmatar scout with 22M SP who uses the SMG and NK and specializes in CQC...my KDR is still well over 4 after the changes because of skill. Like he mentioned, make skill the #1 determiner as far as living or dying go. not gear.
What do you mean consider who I am talking to? What credibility do you bring to the table? If you're going to come in here and dispute the widely accepted opinion that TTK is too short, then you're going to have to provide some good evidence to support that claim. i dont have to qualify myself. plenty of people know ive been here from the beginning and have excelled in every build. ur welcome to look up my stats in-game if u doubt me. I think ur confusing opinions in ur head like 'widely accepted notion' with u and other scrubs whining becuz noobs can kill you now. I use the class with the lowest total health in the game and still dominate. my advice? get gud. I disagree with you. I don't have to explain to you, because my KDR is higher than yours. That is exactly how these guys are coming off as. Whoever has the highest KDR wins the arguments. Haha  I'd say the guys so concerned with their KDR are probably the guys more likely to be twisting the statistics in order to mold the game to their personal gain without concern for the game as a whole.
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Hang on. I'll be right back.....
**grabs sniper rifle and heads for the redline**
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:08:00 -
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If only I could tolerate it.... I can't STAND sniping. SOOOOOOOO boring.
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:36:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Tyjus Vacca wrote:
i dont have to qualify myself. plenty of people know ive been here from the beginning and have excelled in every build. ur welcome to look up my stats in-game if u doubt me.
I think ur confusing opinions in ur head like 'widely accepted notion' with u and other scrubs whining becuz noobs can kill you now. I use the class with the lowest total health in the game and still dominate. my advice? get gud.
I disagree with you. I don't have to explain to you, because my KDR is higher than yours. That is exactly how these guys are coming off as. Whoever has the highest KDR wins the arguments. Haha I'd say the guys so concerned with their KDR are probably the guys more likely to be twisting the statistics in order to mold the game to their personal gain without concern for the game as a whole. I genuinely have a higher KDR than this guy, so consider this argument won. I agree with Aero that KDR doesnt mean u make good suggestions but arent u a tanker? u cant possibly be serious. if he really is a minny scout and ur taking adv of FOTM mechanics ur comparison fails................................hard.
Actually, last I saw he was a Gallogi with an ScR.
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:09:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Tolen Rosas wrote:even still, would u compare the ga logi (another FOTM, but not for much longer) with a Minny scout? I dont know he's one for sure but that like comparing a WW2 plane to the F-22. You've missed the point. The point is that KDR is completely irrelevant here. Perhaps if I hadn't included the word 'genuinely' then the joke would have been more obvious.
I would have thought that guy explaining your joke for you would have been obvious enough..... 
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:12:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Dusters Blog wrote:ur making our argument however, u support low TTK for new players but not for u? is killing them 1shoturdead skill based? all suits should have hp totals reasonably close to other suits of the same class. give adv and proto suits advantages in recharge rate, movement speed [make them lighter] repair rate and have them be more efficient [less cpu/pg cost] the same with weapons. would much rather see them also separated in a subtle manner that focuses on skill rather than 'my higher sp makes me god'
the lack of new players and retention of them is proof the hp gap was a terrible idea. as were the 3 minute bunnyhop sessions. Considering that suit base HP does not go up with level the HP totals are relatively close. I can get around 600 EHP on my Covenant C-1, about 700 on my M/1 assault, and about 800 EHP on Mk.0. So when you total it all up my proto suit that costs around 200K ISK can tank 7-8 AR rounds than my 15K suit. Granted the proto has a much better weapon etc... But the fact remains that proto suits, guns, and equipment are not what are going to determine an engagement every time, they help sure, but they can be over come. People need to get away from the psycology of "that guy beat me because of proto" we all do it because the kill screen shows us what kills us and it is easier on our egos than "wow that guy killed me because he is better than me or because I played stupid" BTW playing the game longer and having more XP gives you the advantage in every MMO that has that sort of RPG mechanic to it, but just because someone has an advantage does no mean they'll win. That's why in sports they don't just give the championship to the organization that has stacked the best athletes, they play the games.
Well said.
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
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