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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.12 21:43:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:
This community is the biggest bunch of babbies I have ever seen. All half you you do is ask for things to be equal and the other half demand for SP refunds. This game is going to fail because of you, I want you to know it is your fault for being a limp noodle bunch of sissys. I can't believe some of the things on here are actually thought to be a good idea. You embarrass me as a gamer and should be ashamed of yourselves for wanting to make this game more like the other bland games out there. You are not hardcore or even medium core, you are loser whiners whom would rather cry for easy mode than try to play a game that is difficult. If this game ever become successful then it will not because of you. I am all for a nice balance but every suit is the same, every weapon is virtually identical in performance and you all still want more blandness. Stalin would be proud of you for making it equal for everyone. Losers.
I hear fresh air helps the brain. Get out of the basement.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1022
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Posted - 2014.01.12 21:51:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:
This community is the biggest bunch of babbies I have ever seen. All half you you do is ask for things to be equal and the other half demand for SP refunds. This game is going to fail because of you, I want you to know it is your fault for being a limp noodle bunch of sissys. I can't believe some of the things on here are actually thought to be a good idea. You embarrass me as a gamer and should be ashamed of yourselves for wanting to make this game more like the other bland games out there. You are not hardcore or even medium core, you are loser whiners whom would rather cry for easy mode than try to play a game that is difficult. If this game ever become successful then it will not because of you. I am all for a nice balance but every suit is the same, every weapon is virtually identical in performance and you all still want more blandness. Stalin would be proud of you for making it equal for everyone. Losers.
I hear fresh air helps the brain. Get out of the basement. Thank you for more pointless input that does nothing to further the discussion. I am glad to be a source of likes for your one liner bs comments.
How about this then GÇö you're being a little *****. Your discussion is nothing but bitching in the first place. You haven't been contributing anything from the first post. Stop your epeening hardcore nerd QQ while some of us on the forums might still respect you. Don't make it so bad that you have to start posting on an alt. Don't become another Attim.
Wait a second! Attim is that you? Did you already have to grab an alt? Lol
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1022
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Posted - 2014.01.12 21:59:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Bethhy wrote:it's not their fault... all this generation knows is call of duty and battlefield... They don't know FPS games on console have existed longer without AA then with... The casuals don't want a " Hardcore" game like that was ever a surprise they wanted an easy mode? When did CCP start catering to making easy games? They think if you make a kiddie pool everyone will want to play there and the rest of the game will die FFS..... Challenge? who would want that... Working and earning your rewards? nah F* that.... that's what tryhards do. Its a generation of gamers that want stuff given to them with very little player skill, little to no grind, time invested or effort. It's sad. "Yes, I am a casual player because I have a life. I just want to hop on anytime I want for 30 min and have a good game with a good score. What's wrong with that? Why do I have to compete with all you losers just to enjoy a game? I am a multifaceted individual with a busy schedule - why do I have to compete at something that I am doing for recreation?" Try arguing with this one ; ) To ppl who think that this is just 'a generation that happened to be' - you are wrong. This generation has been carefully created by mass marketing pushed by big publishers that want to fuel consummerism and endless hopping from one FOTM game to the next. I guess CCP does not see it that way to their detriment. I am the definition of casual player, after my 12 hour work day and the hour or two that I spend with my wife and children I have little time to play games. I have less than 3k kills and less than 4k deaths, I have less than 14M SP because I spend my money on my children and wife. I am lucky if I play 5 hours a week and yet I don't have 1/10 the problem with proto gear, HAVs or many of the other things people cry about. If it is that difficult to have fun in this game then I either am way better than I think and is indicated by by 0.73 KDR or you all just whiners that see dieing in a game to be so bad that you have to speak out and QQ about players whom are better or have more time invested.
Who's whining? Lol
You have a wife and kids and still act this way about a video game?
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1022
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Posted - 2014.01.12 22:01:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:
This community is the biggest bunch of babbies I have ever seen. All half you you do is ask for things to be equal and the other half demand for SP refunds. This game is going to fail because of you, I want you to know it is your fault for being a limp noodle bunch of sissys. I can't believe some of the things on here are actually thought to be a good idea. You embarrass me as a gamer and should be ashamed of yourselves for wanting to make this game more like the other bland games out there. You are not hardcore or even medium core, you are loser whiners whom would rather cry for easy mode than try to play a game that is difficult. If this game ever become successful then it will not because of you. I am all for a nice balance but every suit is the same, every weapon is virtually identical in performance and you all still want more blandness. Stalin would be proud of you for making it equal for everyone. Losers.
I hear fresh air helps the brain. Get out of the basement. Thank you for more pointless input that does nothing to further the discussion. I am glad to be a source of likes for your one liner bs comments. How about this then GÇö your being a little *****. Stop your epeening hardcore nerd QQ while some of us on the forums might still respect you. Don't make it so bad that you have to start posting on an alt. Don't become another Attim. Wait a second! Attim is that you? Did you already have to grab an alt? Lol i say what I want to whom ever I want whenever I want about anything I want. When I post on an alt I do so for RP or as the chracter I tried to make to buy vehicle. I am not ashamed of my thoughts and I will never feel the need to hide behind another name. I honestly don't care what anyone thinks of me or my ideas. I like playing hard games because I like the challenge, I am not good at most of them but I enjoy it. Who are you? Because I have been here and I always speak my mind under my name, my likes came from things I said and are proud of. I don't troll and I rarely post one liners to try to get likes. When you know me then you can say something.
LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1022
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Posted - 2014.01.12 22:11:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Bethhy wrote:it's not their fault... all this generation knows is call of duty and battlefield... They don't know FPS games on console have existed longer without AA then with... The casuals don't want a " Hardcore" game like that was ever a surprise they wanted an easy mode? When did CCP start catering to making easy games? They think if you make a kiddie pool everyone will want to play there and the rest of the game will die FFS..... Challenge? who would want that... Working and earning your rewards? nah F* that.... that's what tryhards do. Its a generation of gamers that want stuff given to them with very little player skill, little to no grind, time invested or effort. It's sad. "Yes, I am a casual player because I have a life. I just want to hop on anytime I want for 30 min and have a good game with a good score. What's wrong with that? Why do I have to compete with all you losers just to enjoy a game? I am a multifaceted individual with a busy schedule - why do I have to compete at something that I am doing for recreation?" Try arguing with this one ; ) To ppl who think that this is just 'a generation that happened to be' - you are wrong. This generation has been carefully created by mass marketing pushed by big publishers that want to fuel consummerism and endless hopping from one FOTM game to the next. I guess CCP does not see it that way to their detriment. Its not that the casual player is left out in the cold its that there actually is a surprisingly large market and desire from gamers for more hardcore game. Games that don't hold your hand, that make you work for your rewards, and that aren't easy to get into or enter into. The Souls games have a cult following for this reason. Sure a casual could play it but I would maul them mercilessly every time in PvP because I took the time to learn the mechanics, best routes, best fighting spots, etc. I want a hardcore game, that's why I play Dust, something that is hard, rewarding, and all together hard, grim, gritty, realistic, and tactical. Thanks, I am glad I am not the only one who enjoys a challenge. I hate being some QQ ranter but all this push towards equality is disheartening, I want us to have a fun game that isn't afraid to be different or innovative, I see little innovation but I see lots of conformity to the norm.
You want innovation? Remember this game was not supposed to be about FPS stuff in the first place. The FPS part was supposed to be a means to an end. The real game was supposed to be an EVE link for gaining resources for EVE.
They stupidly did not start from there and work backwards. Now we have these console thumb jockeys complaining about shooter games. Yes, it should be bland and fair. Yes, it should be like those other games. Because the part that is supposed to be different is the EVE resource link.
This game should have been on the PC and a clear companion piece to EVE all along. I can't believe it's been mired in this FPS game swamp.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1025
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Posted - 2014.01.12 22:38:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Try again This week we got tha chance to sit down and talk with David Reid, CCPGÇÖs new Head of Marketing. Also, joining us on the call was the big man himself, CEO Hilmar Petrusson. David and Hilmar gave us a great look at what CCP has planned for 2012. The main title being DUST 514 as a AAA shooter which will integrate into the EVE Online universe, while being a completely separate experience. When talking about DUST 514 both Dave and Hilmar want people to know that CCP is putting together a Triple-A FPS for the console space. The game will have top quality weapons, vehicles, and tactical gameplay which rivals the best loved shooters out there. DUST will integrate with EVE and be part of the same persistant universe which is a unique step for MMOs. Having gameplay in DUSTGÇÖs planets impact the game universe of EVE is a major step forward in gaming. They want the feel of grunts with their futuristic guns battling it out in the universe which will work hand in hand with the space pilots flying above. Dave was very excited about the look and feel of the game. The dark future art style that has made EVE so spectacular will really shine through in the ground wars of DUST. http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/494/feature/6072/CCPs-Plans-to-Dominate-2012.html
Flip back to 2009
And then they went on to promote the EVE link that was based on the stuff they talked about for EVE with the focus on the planets as sources of conflict. I never in the time I played EVE heard any mention of DUST actually being its own thing versus as support for EVE. Guess they either changed their tune or threw comflicting ideas out there.
They recently changed their tune again going back to the FPS as its own thing idea.
They've really had no idea how they wanted to market this thing from beginning.
What us EVE players were sold on though was a companion piece to EVE that tied in with the direction they were going with PI. That was right up until they announced it would be on the Playstation. Everything went downhill from there.
"In 2010, CCP updated Eve Online with the Tyrannis expansion. Tyrannis introduced planetary interaction, allowing players to harvest resources from planets using ground installations. A developer blog by CCP mentioned that, while the expansion alone would not include planetary combat, the upcoming Dust 514 game would deal with the combat aspect by allowing players to "project military force for attack and defense of planetary installations."[25] Planets in Eve Online previously held no value; the Tyrannis expansion was intended to tie into Dust 514 by giving players "a reason to want to fight over [the planets]."
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1025
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Posted - 2014.01.12 23:01:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: How about this then GÇö you're being a little *****. Your discussion is nothing but bitching in the first place. You haven't been contributing anything from the first post. Stop your epeening hardcore nerd QQ while some of us on the forums might still respect you. Don't make it so bad that you have to start posting on an alt. Don't become another Attim.
Wait a second! Attim is that you? Did you already have to grab an alt? Lol
I'm sorry that you disagree with what I'm saying, but please don't start this alt crap again. I had enough of that last time when everyone kept calling me DJINN Luekoplast. WTF is a Luekoplast anyway? I searched it up on Google and it lead me to one of my posts on the forums
I'm poking fun at you. You ended up being the whipping boy for a lot of ppl on the forums that it became a pasttime. I'm just having fun with it.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1025
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Posted - 2014.01.12 23:11:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Try again This week we got tha chance to sit down and talk with David Reid, CCPGÇÖs new Head of Marketing. Also, joining us on the call was the big man himself, CEO Hilmar Petrusson. David and Hilmar gave us a great look at what CCP has planned for 2012. The main title being DUST 514 as a AAA shooter which will integrate into the EVE Online universe, while being a completely separate experience. When talking about DUST 514 both Dave and Hilmar want people to know that CCP is putting together a Triple-A FPS for the console space. The game will have top quality weapons, vehicles, and tactical gameplay which rivals the best loved shooters out there. DUST will integrate with EVE and be part of the same persistant universe which is a unique step for MMOs. Having gameplay in DUSTGÇÖs planets impact the game universe of EVE is a major step forward in gaming. They want the feel of grunts with their futuristic guns battling it out in the universe which will work hand in hand with the space pilots flying above. Dave was very excited about the look and feel of the game. The dark future art style that has made EVE so spectacular will really shine through in the ground wars of DUST. http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/494/feature/6072/CCPs-Plans-to-Dominate-2012.html And then they went on to promote the EVE link that was based on the stuff they talked about for EVE with the focus on the planets as sources of conflict. I never in the time I played EVE heard any mention of DUST actually being its own thing versus as support for EVE. Guess they either changed their tune or threw comflicting ideas out there. They recently changed their tune again going back to the FPS as its own thing idea. They've really had no idea how they wanted to market this thing from beginning. What us EVE players were sold on though was a companion piece to EVE that tied in with the direction they were going with PI. That was right up until they announced it would be on the Playstation. Everything went downhill from there. From the first time I have heard them describe DUST the have always said that they wanted a game that could survive on its own without EVE. I am not saying they didn't sell it to EVE another way but I have heard CCP say several times that you can just pick the game up and play and not be worried about the EVE connection. It is all semantics and I am not too worried about that as I am about the direction this game's forums is trying to take it. I am QQing in concern not because of anything else at all. I just don't think we should pander to the lowest levels, the game should be a challenge and should reward mercs who stick with it and learn the game. I don't want to say this but I am going to anyways. New players shouldn't be able to compete with a person who has been playing for a year or two. Me, you and anyone else who has put time into this game should be rewarded with better equipment. Most of our problems stem from a low payer count and the inability to choose what difficulty battle we are placed. I can't compete with half the players I shoot at because I am a bad shot but I play to my strengths and play a support role. I don't whine about HAVs being too hard, I put on my AV suit and fight harder. I don't have the skills for prototype suits and I only have the skill for one proto weapon that I never use. I am not some noob stomping proto player, I am the most casual of casuals who enjoys challenging games.
I DO want the new player to be able to fight ppl their own level more or less. EVE has suffered the same thing. Players already skilled up started dominating certain things so they backed off and redefined some things.
This shouldn't be a game of crawling up a hill. It should be a game of ebb and flow combat. Ppl are already just leaving the matches when they tip too easily one way.
THIS GAME IS NOT A REQUIREMENT IN LIFE! Therefore, no one is going to "hang in there", "get good" or "keep pushing". They are going to drop it and CCP will be the ones QQing.
There is a place for mixing it up with the best suited players being tops. It's called PC.
FW is for new players to join in in EVE and it should be that way for DUST. FW is an automatic kiddie form of PC. That's why the whole concept was created in the first place.
There should be balanced matchmaking in pubs and FW else there will never be much of a player base. Those fights are pre defined and automatic.
PC is the only thing, like null sec wars, that is totally player defined.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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