DUST Search - Turn aim assist off for CR to balance

Jooki Chewaka wrote:

Lt Royal wrote:

This whole KB/M and Controller argument is getting ridiculous really........

Aim Assist does sometimes feel GÇ£OPGÇ¥ for some weaponry but face it; KB/M users have so many advantages over controller users which is why assisted was implemented to try balance that out;

Sniping with KB/M is ridiculously easier over using a controller with pinpoint accuracy.
Tanking is 100x better using KB/M seeing as its very hard to reverse in a straight line on controller while turning the turret. (this list goes on)
Turning speed in both Turrets and Dropsuit amining; mouse users can "whip" left or right and instantly turn around over the slow moving controller user, GÇ£turn on a dimeGÇ¥ at will.
Doing the wiggle dance; side strafing is so much easier and more responsive on keyboard.
The list goes on.......

As some people have said in here already; CCP have made their lives hell, trying to appease everyone.

If you're using KB/M and you're dieing to aim assisted controllers you need to step up your game, GÇ£join the clubGÇ¥ or suck it up and stop QQing about it!

Have you tried playing with a mouse in this game?

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Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... 14	Posted - 2014.01.12 20:18:00 - [1] - Quote Looks like a big percentage of people think that CR is too strong and I'm with them on that one. In close combat CR with aim assist is unstoppable, all you need to do is just keep pressing r1 and aim assist will do the rest. Turn it off for CR and slow it down a bit. Thx
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 574	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:02:00 - [2] - Quote could probably do the same with rail rifles as well.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2436	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:04:00 - [3] - Quote Scrubs Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5590	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:06:00 - [4] - Quote Maciej Szambelan wrote: Looks like a big percentage of people think that CR is too strong and I'm with them on that one. In close combat CR with aim assist is unstoppable, all you need to do is just keep pressing r1 and aim assist will do the rest. Turn it off for CR and slow it down a bit. Thx Its not all that bad, ScR still downs it in CQC if I can land my shots. Sig wanted......
Jooki Chewaka Stalking Wolfpack 77	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:13:00 - [5] - Quote aim assistance should be totally removed out of the game. it was introduced to balance things with mouse & kb users, it would make sense if mouse was really hardware supported, it has a tremendous lag, lacks acuracy, vertical and horizontal axis dont work the same way, etc. i think its some kind of joystic emulation or something, on close combat its just stupid because you cannot track anyone, these ***** stupid cheaters who rather kill with *** aimbot (jesus back on the day you used to get banned by using that , now its a "game feature", they *** call it... ccp u bunch o'cocksuckers) than lose having played fair... strafing like bitches from one side to another rinse and repeat... not failing a shot, with proto aur gear... some fellows might say learn to aim, and ill tell them come to a match on quake 3 ill show you how my railgun deals with your puny butt, if you survive one shot beware youve got couple o rockets comin ur way See you from orbit**
Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... 14	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:14:00 - [6] - Quote In my opinion aim assist is **** idea. It's you that should aim not something else doing it for you.. But you have to agree that new guns are bit to strong and now if ScR has been mentioned I need to honestly say that beeing killed by one shot from 60-80 meters is not cool, something is wrong there too..
Stephen Seneca Providence Guard Templis CALSF 50	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:23:00 - [7] - Quote Just to round it out.. the AR is still too strong. Mlt AR is too good cqc, nevermind the duvolle. ;-) For the State! Keep your stick on the ice and get the pucks in deep, eh. Rail Rifles. All. The. Way!
Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... 14	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:28:00 - [8] - Quote Stephen Seneca wrote: Just to round it out.. the AR is still too strong. Mlt AR is too good cqc, nevermind the duvolle. ;-) Not as good as CR since CR is almost as twice faster than AR..
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 425	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:38:00 - [9] - Quote Turn off aim assist for everything.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 930	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:39:00 - [10] - Quote CCP should remove, MKB, PS move and aim assist. Trying to balance the 3 controls schemes is just stupid the game play would be far better with just the DS3. Everyone who has a PS3 has a DS3 not everyone wants to shell out the cash for move or gaming KBM. CCP made their jobs way harder as far as programming go by having all three schemes, the only reason they have MKB was to appease EVE players who didn't want to learn how to use a DS3. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado

stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 930	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:40:00 - [11] - Quote double post STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... 15	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:44:00 - [12] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: CCP should remove, MKB, PS move and aim assist. Trying to balance the 3 controls schemes is just stupid the game play would be far better with just the DS3. Everyone who has a PS3 has a DS3 not everyone wants to shell out the cash for move or gaming KBM. CCP made their jobs way harder as far as programming go by having all three schemes, the only reason they have MKB was to appease EVE players who didn't want to learn how to use a DS3. That will not happen, many top guys from the killboard use kbm, many people have bought kbm to play this game. It's good for players base to have kbm players in..
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 932	Posted - 2014.01.12 21:59:00 - [13] - Quote Maciej Szambelan wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: CCP should remove, MKB, PS move and aim assist. Trying to balance the 3 controls schemes is just stupid the game play would be far better with just the DS3. Everyone who has a PS3 has a DS3 not everyone wants to shell out the cash for move or gaming KBM. CCP made their jobs way harder as far as programming go by having all three schemes, the only reason they have MKB was to appease EVE players who didn't want to learn how to use a DS3. That will not happen, many top guys from the killboard use kbm, many people have bought kbm to play this game. It's good for players base to have kbm players in.. I know it won't but they should have never added it in the first place, they wanted to attracted people to dust who didn't know about EVE, but having MKB just attracted EVE players. Gaming competitiveness if achieved by having everyone on the same playing field using the same control input. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Jooki Chewaka Stalking Wolfpack 77	Posted - 2014.01.12 22:11:00 - [14] - Quote then the move would have been to release dust on pc, not ps3... console gamers are casual gamers, and shooter competition is always on pc, not console. deal with it See you from orbit
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 268	Posted - 2014.01.12 22:17:00 - [15] - Quote Maciej Szambelan wrote: Looks like a big percentage of people think that CR is too strong and I'm with them on that one. In close combat CR with aim assist is unstoppable, all you need to do is just keep pressing r1 and aim assist will do the rest. Turn it off for CR and slow it down a bit. Thx Totally agree. But maybe turn off aim assist on ALL rifles would be nice ?
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 932	Posted - 2014.01.12 22:21:00 - [16] - Quote Jooki Chewaka wrote: then the move would have been to release dust on pc, not ps3... console gamers are casual gamers, and shooter competition is always on pc, not console. deal with it Yeah as I said they wanted to attract people who didn't already know about EVE (console gamers) not the people who already know about it (PC gamers). FYI it takes a lot more skill to be good with a controller then it does with a mouse and keyboard, the amout of dexterity you need to have fine precision control with your thumbs far exceeds the dexterity needed to do the same with MKB. On this game the aim assist and crap MKB input makes it a moot point, but I'm just saying the game it self would be better with only DS3. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Jooki Chewaka Stalking Wolfpack 77	Posted - 2014.01.12 22:44:00 - [17] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: FYI it takes a lot more skill to be good with a controller then it does with a mouse http://youtu.be/6DXyXTu3Tek do that with a mouse, be my guest. fyi, youre wrong. and no, it wouldnt, dust doesnt even gets 4000 regular players daily, remove mouse and youll cut that in half... http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust have you even considered your words before writing that, fella? See you from orbit
Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... 17	Posted - 2014.01.12 22:49:00 - [18] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Maciej Szambelan wrote: Looks like a big percentage of people think that CR is too strong and I'm with them on that one. In close combat CR with aim assist is unstoppable, all you need to do is just keep pressing r1 and aim assist will do the rest. Turn it off for CR and slow it down a bit. Thx Totally agree. But maybe turn off aim assist on ALL rifles would be nice ? Agree.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 932	Posted - 2014.01.12 23:08:00 - [19] - Quote Jooki Chewaka wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: FYI it takes a lot more skill to be good with a controller then it does with a mouse http://youtu.be/6DXyXTu3Tek do that with a mouse, be my guest. fyi, youre wrong. any serious shooter gamer does not even think about playing it with a pad... only casual wannabegamers do and no, it wouldnt, dust doesnt even get 4000 regular players daily, remove mouse and youll cut that in half... http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust have you even considered your words before writing that, fella? Again as I stated they should have never added it to begin with, now its too late and doesn't matter anyway, and your point about serious competitive FPS gamers doesn't matter because this FPS doesn't attract MLG gamers. The majority of people who play it are ex MAG players and EVE online players. and next time you start talking about competitive gaming make sure you have a KDR better than 1.02 STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Jooki Chewaka Stalking Wolfpack 77	Posted - 2014.01.12 23:28:00 - [20] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: and next time you start talking about competitive gaming make sure you have a KDR better than 1.02 Full bpo logi suit <500 ehp, if i have to dodge a couple bullets to rise my mate i try it, most of the times i die though, same mentality as old good enemy territory times, k/d ratio means nothing, aint no slayer... besides, if i could ***** aim something ... And again, if they havent added it, dust would be dead already, dont you see? See you from orbit**

Lazy Scumbag Intara Direct Action Caldari State 93	Posted - 2014.01.13 00:14:00 - [21] - Quote Aim assist should be a module that has to be fitted. I'm not saying you should have to spend sp to unlock, but there should be a downside to running aim assist other than the shame of it all.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2436	Posted - 2014.01.13 00:44:00 - [22] - Quote Scrubs! Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1557	Posted - 2014.01.13 00:50:00 - [23] - Quote Maciej Szambelan wrote: Looks like a big percentage of people think that CR is too strong and I'm with them on that one. In close combat CR with aim assist is unstoppable, all you need to do is just keep pressing r1 and aim assist will do the rest. Turn it off for CR and slow it down a bit. Thx Spam equipment and you will kill the Combat rifle. In reality the combat rifle those around 525 DPS it is impossible to do the full damage with it without using some sort of exploit. But imo it's damage should be decreased slightly in order to make up for its slightly longer range.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 229	Posted - 2014.01.13 01:04:00 - [24] - Quote Maciej Szambelan wrote: Looks like a big percentage of people think that CR is too strong and I'm with them on that one. In close combat CR with aim assist is unstoppable, all you need to do is just keep pressing r1 and aim assist will do the rest. Turn it off for CR and slow it down a bit. Thx It's extremely easy to keep aim-cross on someones head with KB/M what ever he do - jump, sprint, strafe - it's all about your skill to do so. I think that DS3 is more or less balanced with KB/M. Let not forget that you can always try to turn off someones aim-assist by strafing in front of him. Aim assist is not perfect in way how it's works, and it require user action to work. I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2436	Posted - 2014.01.13 01:09:00 - [25] - Quote This whole KB/M and controller argument is getting ridiculous really........ Aim Assist does sometimes feel GÇ£OPGÇ¥ for some weaponry but face it; KB/M users have so many advantages over controller users which is why assisted was implemented to try balance that out; Sniping with KD/M is ridiculously easier over using a controller with pinpoint accuracy. Tanking is 100x better using KB/M seeing as its very hard to reverse in a straight line on controller while turning the turret. (this list goes on) Turning speed in both Turrets and Dropsuit amining; mouse users can whip their left or right and instantly turn around over the slow moving controller user and GÇ£turn on a dimeGÇ¥ at will. Doing the wiggle dance; side strafing is so much easier and more responsive on keyboard. The list goes on....... As some people have said in here already; CCP have made their lives hell, trying to appease everyone. If you're using KB/M and you're dieing to aim assisted controllers you need to step up your game, GÇ£join the clubGÇ¥ or suck it up and stop QQing about it! Scrubs! Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Jooki Chewaka Stalking Wolfpack 78	Posted - 2014.01.13 03:43:00 - [26] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: This whole KB/M and Controller argument is getting ridiculous really........ Aim Assist does sometimes feel GÇ£OPGÇ¥ for some weaponry but face it; KB/M users have so many advantages over controller users which is why assisted was implemented to try balance that out; Sniping with KB/M is ridiculously easier over using a controller with pinpoint accuracy. Tanking is 100x better using KB/M seeing as its very hard to reverse in a straight line on controller while turning the turret. (this list goes on) Turning speed in both Turrets and Dropsuit amining; mouse users can "whip" left or right and instantly turn around over the slow moving controller user, GÇ£turn on a dimeGÇ¥ at will. Doing the wiggle dance; side strafing is so much easier and more responsive on keyboard. The list goes on....... As some people have said in here already; CCP have made their lives hell, trying to appease everyone. If you're using KB/M and you're dieing to aim assisted controllers you need to step up your game, GÇ£join the clubGÇ¥ or suck it up and stop QQing about it! Scrubs! Have you tried playing with a mouse in this game? See you from orbit
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2441	Posted - 2014.01.13 04:41:00 - [27] - Quote Jooki Chewaka wrote: Lt Royal wrote: This whole KB/M and Controller argument is getting ridiculous really........ Aim Assist does sometimes feel GÇ£OPGÇ¥ for some weaponry but face it; KB/M users have so many advantages over controller users which is why assisted was implemented to try balance that out; Sniping with KB/M is ridiculously easier over using a controller with pinpoint accuracy. Tanking is 100x better using KB/M seeing as its very hard to reverse in a straight line on controller while turning the turret. (this list goes on) Turning speed in both Turrets and Dropsuit amining; mouse users can "whip" left or right and instantly turn around over the slow moving controller user, GÇ£turn on a dimeGÇ¥ at will. Doing the wiggle dance; side strafing is so much easier and more responsive on keyboard. The list goes on....... As some people have said in here already; CCP have made their lives hell, trying to appease everyone. If you're using KB/M and you're dieing to aim assisted controllers you need to step up your game, GÇ£join the clubGÇ¥ or suck it up and stop QQing about it! Have you tried playing with a mouse in this game? In the very rare occasion when I feel I can't get to a pus*y redline sniper by entering the redline; IGÇÖll pull out my sniper rifle and my KB/M (I have them both on my desk in front of me) to get the drop on him. As I previously said; you get pinpoint accuracy with a mouse over a controller. With all the horrendous tank spam thats been happening since 1.7GÇÖs deployment; I finally gave in and decided to GÇ£join the clubGÇ¥. So I logged onto an alt character that has been passively accumulating SP since the closed beta and dumped 12 million into tanks; which I will also use a KB/M to pilot seeing how driving with a controller is borked compared to driving AND shooting with a keyboard and mouse. Derpships are easier to pilot with controllers, since analog sticks have a more GÇ£FluidGÇ¥ movement - Seeing as its very easy to run out of mouse space on the desk; making you lift up the mouse and returning to the central position - this is bad when piloting Assault Derpships as any wrong move could result in you nose diving. As for on foot, I find it much more intuitive to use a controller seeing as IGÇÖve been using analog and joysticks sticks for a very long time and the D-Pad will always be close to my heart. So to answer your question: Yes I use both and quote often. As the saying goes:- GÇ£You need to use the right tools for the job.GÇ¥ Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Anoko Destrolock Crimson Saints 23	Posted - 2014.01.13 09:58:00 - [28] - Quote Maciej Szambelan wrote: Looks like a big percentage of people think that CR is too strong and I'm with them on that one. In close combat CR with aim assist is unstoppable, all you need to do is just keep pressing r1 and aim assist will do the rest. Turn it off for CR and slow it down a bit. Thx Worst idea ever. Wait.... No. Worst idea was giving mlt ARs AA and no AA for proto. This is only the second worst idea. And why are you complaining about CR? RR has highest dps at close range, 2-4x the dps at mid-long range, way more Dmg per clip AND requires less SP, as it does not have sharpshooter AA is not an aim bot, it's in place to give ppl a chance vs mkb. Every fps that I know of uses AA. Get used to it.
Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... 21	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:52:00 - [29] - Quote Anoko Destrolock wrote: Maciej Szambelan wrote: Looks like a big percentage of people think that CR is too strong and I'm with them on that one. In close combat CR with aim assist is unstoppable, all you need to do is just keep pressing r1 and aim assist will do the rest. Turn it off for CR and slow it down a bit. Thx Worst idea ever. Wait.... No. Worst idea was giving mlt ARs AA and no AA for proto. This is only the second worst idea. And why are you complaining about CR? RR has highest dps at close range, 2-4x the dps at mid-long range, way more Dmg per clip AND requires less SP, as it does not have sharpshooter AA is not an aim bot, it's in place to give ppl a chance vs mkb. Every fps that I know of uses AA. Get used to it. What is the rifle of your choice if I may ask?
Jooki Chewaka Stalking Wolfpack 87	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:54:00 - [30] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: In the very rare occasion when I feel I can't get to a pusy redline sniper by entering the redline; IGÇÖll pull out my sniper rifle and my KB/M (I have them both on my desk in front of me) to get the drop on him. As I previously said; you get pinpoint accuracy with a mouse over a controller. And you think that it feels the same way as Quake 3 / Half Life / Enemy Territory does? I dont mean to patronize or mock but i kinda have the feeling that you havent played much PC shooters, if you'd played some you wouldnt say such things. See you from orbit*



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