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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:50:00 -
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Kinda far don't you think?
*Runs from flame*
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1180
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:54:00 -
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Yeah, it's crazy when I can easily slaughter people from 170m.
Pre 1.7 my best kill with a blaster was my Scattered Ion at 202m. Took me like a full minute to down the poor bastard... and my DPS was far more significant than it is now.
PRO tanker and proud.
Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5576
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:55:00 -
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Yes and no.
I can hit targets out to say 80m reliably....considering my gun is 10x the size of an assault rifle with a much greater plasma pay load........ 80m isn't a lot to ask.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
7808
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Posted - 2014.01.12 11:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Yes and no.
I can hit targets out to say 80m reliably....considering my gun is 10x the size of an assault rifle with a much greater plasma pay load........ 80m isn't a lot to ask.
Logically, that is so. Also, it goes a lot further than 80m.
Balance wise... It means that a couple of blaster tanks can lock down vast, vast areas. All you really need is a rail tank to shoot down any RDVs or deploying enemy tanks and then blasters can lock everything down.
I'm not sure that's so great.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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thomas mak
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
Public Disorder.
13
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Posted - 2014.01.12 11:13:00 -
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One thing I only know about blaster is it's range MUST b shorter
Real tanker dies with their tanks!
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
673
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Posted - 2014.01.12 11:16:00 -
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I like how people brag about those long range kills, but fail to realize that you can't reliably kill someone at those ranges unless they are hurt already, so it doesn't count. Just saying.
"Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say
Alt of the great Godin
I like chocolate ^___^
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LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
60
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Posted - 2014.01.12 11:52:00 -
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No blaster is fine it should be like that! It's a fockin tank! pre 1.7 range of any blaster was terrible.. |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
214
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Posted - 2014.01.12 12:04:00 -
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its actually fine, its the accuracy that's the problem in my opinion, and swarm should probobly be given a longer range then it. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
1180
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Posted - 2014.01.12 12:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Yes and no.
I can hit targets out to say 80m reliably....considering my gun is 10x the size of an assault rifle with a much greater plasma pay load........ 80m isn't a lot to ask.
I would agree with you if it were 80m. One can consistently kill out to 150, and without too much difficulty at 170. 200 still requires a lot of headshots, but isn't as idiotically pointless as it was.
After all, the only reason I managed it was apparently because the red was in a starter fit and didn't know what cover was.
PRO tanker and proud.
Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
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Mortedeamor
1215
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Posted - 2014.01.12 12:15:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Kinda far don't you think?
*Runs from flame*
max range kill on soma blaster for me 284m
Im puerto rican we rage deal with it
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Mortedeamor
1216
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Posted - 2014.01.12 12:35:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:True Adamance wrote:Yes and no.
I can hit targets out to say 80m reliably....considering my gun is 10x the size of an assault rifle with a much greater plasma pay load........ 80m isn't a lot to ask. I would agree with you if it were 80m. One can consistently kill out to 150, and without too much difficulty at 170. 200 still requires a lot of headshots, but isn't as idiotically pointless as it was. After all, the only reason I managed it was apparently because the red was in a starter fit and didn't know what cover was.
180? really common you need to get with the max range shooting ive killed at up to 280m
Im puerto rican we rage deal with it
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Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion
1224
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Posted - 2014.01.12 16:45:00 -
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of all the things wrong with tanking right now, the blaster is the least of them, only way a blaster kills you at extreme ranges is because your too slow to move when it starts hitting you or you had a beesdick worth of health left. |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
417
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Posted - 2014.01.12 17:18:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Kinda far don't you think?
*Runs from flame*
Agreed, tell truth, I do better killing infantry 250M out then I do 25 meters out.
Nuff Said
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
376
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:00:00 -
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People say "it's a tank!" like these things are shooting 120mm sabot rounds.
They're not. They're shooting super-heated gas contained in a magnetic field, and the magnetic field eventually fails, unlike the metal shells of today's tanks. The trade-off is that the super-heated gas does more damage than the shells would, and for less matter.
Now this isn't a point for or against the point of the OP, just against the argument that "tanks shoot far, it's what they do" is some kind of universal law.
Amarr HAV Speculation
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1015
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:10:00 -
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honestly I felt it was a little short.
taking down installations and things you gotta be right next to them to put decent DPS on target. infantry just has so little HP that it isn't noticeable...
*fits all the kin cats and runs after sin
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
136
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Yes and no.
I can hit targets out to say 80m reliably....considering my gun is 10x the size of an assault rifle with much greater plasma pay load........ 80m isn't a lot to ask. Logically, that is so. Also, it goes a lot further than 80m. Balance wise... It means that a couple of blaster tanks can lock down vast, vast areas. All you really need is a rail tank to shoot down any RDVs or deploying enemy tanks and then blasters can lock everything down. I'm not sure that's so great.
Erm, you do realize that blasters have a drop off in damage the further away the target is right?
Blaster tanks will hardly "lock down" large areas that you claim because at certain ranges even infantry survives several direct hits from a large blaster. You gotta move in pretty close to be lethal. |
Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
136
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:27:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:People say "it's a tank!" like these things are shooting 120mm sabot rounds.
They're not. They're shooting super-heated gas contained in a magnetic field, and the magnetic field eventually fails, unlike the metal shells of today's tanks. The trade-off is that the super-heated gas does more damage than the shells would, and for less matter.
Now this isn't a point for or against the point of the OP, just against the argument that "tanks shoot far, it's what they do" is some kind of universal law.
The reason why people argue that "it's a tank" has nothing to do with physics but more about strategic and tactical principles. If a real world main gun of a tank only had an effective range of 80 meters then no armed forces would ever use it.
Which begs the question why elite and immortal mercenaries with access to sci-fi technology would.
The weapons, vehicles, armour and equipment in a sci-fi setting is naturally expected to be superior to modern examples of today. If you make them inferior to modern world technology it would just look stupid. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2205
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:29:00 -
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I use blasters
Its hit n miss, if i get a 200m kill its because they stood still or were very close to death anyways
Most of my kills are in CQC area
Intelligence is OP
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
930
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:56:00 -
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At 160m which is a large blaster's effective range, they do about 30 dmg. Which is about the same as a basic AR. So yeah, you can do some damage at those ranges :)
DUST514 Weapon Range & Information
Team Fairy DUST
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
415
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Posted - 2014.01.12 19:19:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:of all the things wrong with tanking right now, the blaster is the least of them, only way a blaster kills you at extreme ranges is because your too slow to move when it starts hitting you or you had a beesdick worth of health left.
I am pretty sure blasters steamrolling because they can cover nearly the entire map is 80% of the problem. If they had to come into throwing range of an AV nade infantry could fight them off. That leaves Forgeguns, plasma cannons and swarms. Only one of which isn't laughably UP.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
415
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Posted - 2014.01.12 19:25:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Yes and no.
I can hit targets out to say 80m reliably....considering my gun is 10x the size of an assault rifle with much greater plasma pay load........ 80m isn't a lot to ask. Logically, that is so. Also, it goes a lot further than 80m. Balance wise... It means that a couple of blaster tanks can lock down vast, vast areas. All you really need is a rail tank to shoot down any RDVs or deploying enemy tanks and then blasters can lock everything down. I'm not sure that's so great. Erm, you do realize that blasters have a drop off in damage the further away the target is right? Blaster tanks will hardly "lock down" large areas that you claim because at certain ranges even infantry survives several direct hits from a large blaster. You gotta move in pretty close to be lethal.
You say that like tanks have some sort of hindrance to movement.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5580
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Posted - 2014.01.12 19:31:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Yes and no.
I can hit targets out to say 80m reliably....considering my gun is 10x the size of an assault rifle with a much greater plasma pay load........ 80m isn't a lot to ask. Logically, that is so. Also, it goes a lot further than 80m. Balance wise... It means that a couple of blaster tanks can lock down vast, vast areas. All you really need is a rail tank to shoot down any RDVs or deploying enemy tanks and then blasters can lock everything down. I'm not sure that's so great.
Yeah but frankly speaking if I cannot hit you out to that range, even if I wanted to the range is essentially capped. Sure I can shoot out to get kills at 120m but again less reliable and my gun is still 10x bigger than a rail rifle.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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