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Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3519	Posted - 2014.01.11 18:04:00 - [1] - Quote Until today, I've barely touched nova knives since 1.1; if you're like me, here's some things you should know before operation shinobi. I've just confirmed with the help of an oblivious enemy redline sniper that knives are their own damage type; 100% damage against shields and armor. SOMETHING isn't right, but I can't tell what as of now. An amarr basic med frame (no idea on the tier, but it wasn't advanced) survived 4 uncharged slashes from my ishukones (I can hear the hits connecting); I'm not sure if uncharged damage is now terrible, or if hit detection is bad. If you use an active scanner, USE FLUX; I was killed while using a quantum active scanner because I couldn't switch weapons or sprint while it was scanning. I'm not sure if it's a glitch, but the timer continued to count down after running out of the redline after killing a sniper. It never reached 0 yet, so I'm not sure if it'll kill you outside the redline or not. I've still never been successfully scanned whilst using an enhanced profile dampener on my scout suit. My profile dampening skill is at 3, and my highest scout skill (minmatar) is at 4. Feel free to add things. We used to have a time machine
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11924	Posted - 2014.01.11 18:20:00 - [2] - Quote max passive sensor range I heard is far more useful for a knifer but I wouldn't know about it too much. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1218	Posted - 2014.01.11 18:22:00 - [3] - Quote 15db scanner has been out in force latelyGÇª expect it more during the event KRRROOOOOOM
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.11 18:23:00 - [4] - Quote The redline timer is just a bug/glitch.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3521	Posted - 2014.01.11 18:53:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: max passive sensor range I heard is far more useful for a knifer but I wouldn't know about it too much. Shotgun yes, knives no. There's a difference between shotguns and knives that's very important. First of all, there's the obvious aspect of range; you don't have to hug someone to kill them with a shotgun, so you can kill someone with less time. Second, knives have 2 slashes per "trigger pull"- if the first slash misses, the second can still connect, so dancing in melee range is more effective with knives than with a shotgun, if someone notices you. Because of that, I prefer to add some tank in the low slots to give me time to get into dancing range- time I wouldn't need if I were using a shotgun. We used to have a time machine
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1768	Posted - 2014.01.11 19:12:00 - [6] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: max passive sensor range I heard is far more useful for a knifer but I wouldn't know about it too much. Shotgun yes, knives no. There's a difference between shotguns and knives that's very important. First of all, there's the obvious aspect of range; you don't have to hug someone to kill them with a shotgun, so you can kill someone with less time. Second, knives have 2 slashes per "trigger pull"- if the first slash misses, the second can still connect, so dancing in melee range is more effective with knives than with a shotgun, if someone notices you. Because of that, I prefer to add some tank in the low slots to give me time to get into dancing range- time I wouldn't need if I were using a shotgun. You can also take advantage of the melee "aim assist" in cqc. If you have trouble tracking a target, a quick melee can put you back on target. At least it used to. I need to test this real quick. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven 315	Posted - 2014.01.11 19:18:00 - [7] - Quote Correct in the fact knives have 100% efficiency on shields and armour. The suit survived because you didn't charge them. 4 swipes=800 damage without bonuses. If you aren't moving at least 9.0 sprint expect to do poorly using knives. Tank is important but knowing were your enemy is without them knowing is even more important.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3521	Posted - 2014.01.11 19:31:00 - [8] - Quote Radar R4D-47 wrote: Correct in the fact knives have 100% efficiency on shields and armour. The suit survived because you didn't charge them. 4 swipes=800 damage without bonuses. If you aren't moving at least 9.0 sprint expect to do poorly using knives. Tank is important but knowing were your enemy is without them knowing is even more important. I now believe it was lag, as I just went 7-2, with at least 3 of the kills being uncharged swipes. I don't need 9.0 sprint speed, and a flux active scanner, along with my base passive scanning, is enough to know where they are. We used to have a time machine
trraacx Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 61	Posted - 2014.01.11 20:23:00 - [9] - Quote I had the same guy kill me three times today, never saw them coming. Nice work. Not that I'm hard to kill but it was the first knife death I've had in a while.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3524	Posted - 2014.01.11 20:27:00 - [10] - Quote trraacx wrote: I had the same guy kill me three times today, never saw them coming. Nice work. Not that I'm hard to kill but it was the first knife death I've had in a while. No idea if it was you, but there was a sniper I killed a few times in a row. They were a dumbass, as I scanned them every time right before I killed them. In their own redzone, too. We used to have a time machine

Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2750	Posted - 2014.01.11 20:37:00 - [11] - Quote hit detection can be a little funky sometimes with knives. It's much better than what it was but it'll happen every now and again. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1947	Posted - 2014.01.11 21:13:00 - [12] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: 15db scanner has been out in force latelyGÇª expect it more during the event Yup, I'm going to run a complex profile damp and a complex range amp+complex sidearm dmg mod. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
icdedppul PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 13	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:28:00 - [13] - Quote think you need more then 1 complex damp to get under 18db scout 5 damp 5 a complex and enhanced i think
Decoy Octopus GIO The Hyperion Hegemony 8	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:35:00 - [14] - Quote I know what you mean about the scanner thingGÇª. It's killed me quite a few times Want to get payed to kill? The Hyperion Hegemony
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven 317	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:11:00 - [15] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Llast 326 wrote: 15db scanner has been out in force latelyGÇª expect it more during the event Yup, I'm going to run a complex profile damp and a complex range amp+complex sidearm dmg mod. Unless you are running basic frame I recommend you use a basic damp to save CPU. Will get you under the proto scanners just fine. I feel the damage mod on knives is pointless but that is just personal preference.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 712	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:39:00 - [16] - Quote Radar R4D-47 wrote: If you aren't moving at least 9.0 sprint expect to do poorly using knives. to be more precise: If you are going to attempt knifing on the run, speed varrry important. On the other hand, if you're going to save your knives for taking out naughty hackers, you'll do okay if you have stealth and a good hiding place
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 269	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:56:00 - [17] - Quote Radar R4D-47 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Llast 326 wrote: 15db scanner has been out in force latelyGÇª expect it more during the event Yup, I'm going to run a complex profile damp and a complex range amp+complex sidearm dmg mod. Unless you are running basic frame I recommend you use a basic damp to save CPU. Will get you under the proto scanners just fine. I feel the damage mod on knives is pointless but that is just personal preference. these people aren't taking your advice, llike they should be. they have probably never seen you before and are thrown off by your low like total.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1769	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:34:00 - [18] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm not sure if it's a glitch, but the timer continued to count down after running out of the redline after killing a sniper. It never reached 0 yet, so I'm not sure if it'll kill you outside the redline or not. There is a bug. You'll also die with 5 seconds or so left on the clock. I've been robbed of some epic red line kills Also, You will find you leave the red zone just in time only for the clock still ticking on your screen. A melee punch will fix it before you die. Why the fuuk is melee the big fix for half of these ****** bugs. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1234	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:38:00 - [19] - Quote mollerz wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm not sure if it's a glitch, but the timer continued to count down after running out of the redline after killing a sniper. It never reached 0 yet, so I'm not sure if it'll kill you outside the redline or not. There is a bug. You'll also die with 5 seconds or so left on the clock. I've been robbed of some epic red line kills Also, You will find you leave the red zone just in time only for the clock still ticking on your screen. A melee punch will fix it before you die. Why the fuuk is melee the big fix for half of these ****** bugs. Had the early dead bug twice now continuity clock I have had more often but it never kills me the clock just eventually disappears. Did not know the melee trick worked on this WTF really WTF KRRROOOOOOM
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1949	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:41:00 - [20] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: Radar R4D-47 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Llast 326 wrote: 15db scanner has been out in force latelyGÇª expect it more during the event Yup, I'm going to run a complex profile damp and a complex range amp+complex sidearm dmg mod. Unless you are running basic frame I recommend you use a basic damp to save CPU. Will get you under the proto scanners just fine. I feel the damage mod on knives is pointless but that is just personal preference. these people aren't taking your advice, llike they should be. they have probably never seen you before and are thrown off by your low like total. Hey, I respect Radar's advice. I thought you needed a complex damp with max skills to avoid complex scanners. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 2457	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:45:00 - [21] - Quote I've had like 20 duels today mostly new guys but some old guys to like Feedback369 and Arbiter still undefeated \o/ "Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
Scheneighnay McBob Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 3535	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:47:00 - [22] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: mollerz wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm not sure if it's a glitch, but the timer continued to count down after running out of the redline after killing a sniper. It never reached 0 yet, so I'm not sure if it'll kill you outside the redline or not. There is a bug. You'll also die with 5 seconds or so left on the clock. I've been robbed of some epic red line kills Also, You will find you leave the red zone just in time only for the clock still ticking on your screen. A melee punch will fix it before you die. Why the fuuk is melee the big fix for half of these ****** bugs. Had the early dead bug twice now continuity clock I have had more often but it never kills me the clock just eventually disappears. Did not know the melee trick worked on this WTF really WTF So far, I've lost an HAV and an ADS to this bug We used to have a time machine
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1235	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:52:00 - [23] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Llast 326 wrote: mollerz wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm not sure if it's a glitch, but the timer continued to count down after running out of the redline after killing a sniper. It never reached 0 yet, so I'm not sure if it'll kill you outside the redline or not. There is a bug. You'll also die with 5 seconds or so left on the clock. I've been robbed of some epic red line kills Also, You will find you leave the red zone just in time only for the clock still ticking on your screen. A melee punch will fix it before you die. Why the fuuk is melee the big fix for half of these ****** bugs. Had the early dead bug twice now continuity clock I have had more often but it never kills me the clock just eventually disappears. Did not know the melee trick worked on this WTF really WTF So far, I've lost an HAV and an ADS to this bug I am guessing the melee fix would not work in a vehicleGÇª KRRROOOOOOM
mollerz Minja Scouts 1772	Posted - 2014.01.12 02:19:00 - [24] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Had the early dead bug twice now continuity clock I have had more often but it never kills me the clock just eventually disappears. Did not know the melee trick worked on this WTF really WTF A melee is tantamount to hitting the side of your TV to make it work. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 1772	Posted - 2014.01.12 02:19:00 - [25] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Llast 326 wrote: mollerz wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm not sure if it's a glitch, but the timer continued to count down after running out of the redline after killing a sniper. It never reached 0 yet, so I'm not sure if it'll kill you outside the redline or not. There is a bug. You'll also die with 5 seconds or so left on the clock. I've been robbed of some epic red line kills Also, You will find you leave the red zone just in time only for the clock still ticking on your screen. A melee punch will fix it before you die. Why the fuuk is melee the big fix for half of these ****** bugs. Had the early dead bug twice now continuity clock I have had more often but it never kills me the clock just eventually disappears. Did not know the melee trick worked on this WTF really WTF So far, I've lost an HAV and an ADS to this bug Once my LAV blew up behind the redline and I died with it. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Henrietta Unknown Immortal Guides 3	Posted - 2014.01.12 02:26:00 - [26] - Quote trraacx wrote: I had the same guy kill me three times today, never saw them coming. Nice work. Not that I'm hard to kill but it was the first knife death I've had in a while. Same. Though my knifing stalker got me 6 times ('tis why I changed to starter suits ftm).
mollerz Minja Scouts 1773	Posted - 2014.01.12 02:33:00 - [27] - Quote I'm hoping this event will highlight just how bugged mobility is in this game as well as how low the FPS is when CQC gets heated. If they could work on improving that I would do a back flip. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Scheneighnay McBob Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 3537	Posted - 2014.01.12 02:36:00 - [28] - Quote mollerz wrote: I'm hoping this event will highlight just how bugged mobility is in this game as well as how low the FPS is when CQC gets heated. If they could work on improving that I would do a back flip. Yep. Sometimes I find myself just spamming R1 because it's impossible to see what's going on, anyway. We used to have a time machine
mollerz Minja Scouts 1774	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:15:00 - [29] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: mollerz wrote: I'm hoping this event will highlight just how bugged mobility is in this game as well as how low the FPS is when CQC gets heated. If they could work on improving that I would do a back flip. Yep. Sometimes I find myself just spamming R1 because it's impossible to see what's going on, anyway. I get lots of +50s with no one in my FOV. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Tectonic Fusion 966	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:20:00 - [30] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: SOMETHING isn't right, but I can't tell what as of now. An amarr basic med frame (no idea on the tier, but it wasn't advanced) survived 4 uncharged slashes from my ishukones (I can hear the hits connecting); I'm not sure if uncharged damage is now terrible, or if hit detection is bad. Were you using a minmatar scout suit with level 5 and prof 3 nova knives or up? Solo Player Squad status: Locked

Scheneighnay McBob Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 3537	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:24:00 - [31] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: SOMETHING isn't right, but I can't tell what as of now. An amarr basic med frame (no idea on the tier, but it wasn't advanced) survived 4 uncharged slashes from my ishukones (I can hear the hits connecting); I'm not sure if uncharged damage is now terrible, or if hit detection is bad. Were you using a minmatar scout suit with level 5 and prof 3 nova knives or up? Prof 1. However, that was the only instance today where a non-heavy survived that, so I'm now positive it's hit detection. We used to have a time machine
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 260	Posted - 2014.01.12 04:33:00 - [32] - Quote Yeah HD is kinda wonky with NK. I blatantly hit a Caldari Assault in the face with my nova knives(ZN-28) with my scout squad mate with me, and my knives were fully charged when he killed me. My friend was surprised when they guy still had a sliver of life left. I died unformately to the Rail Rifle. Remotes have been acting up too. I put them on the objective, the blow up and no one dies. I've seen it happen with my own eyes. 3 enemies inside and it just explodes but no damage happens. Shotgun is wonky sometimes too. Hit someone they lol and have no damage dealt while I get lit up.
Scheneighnay McBob Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 3540	Posted - 2014.01.12 15:54:00 - [33] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Yeah HD is kinda wonky with NK. I blatantly hit a Caldari Assault in the face with my nova knives(ZN-28) with my scout squad mate with me, and my knives were fully charged when he killed me. My friend was surprised when they guy still had a sliver of life left. I died unformately to the Rail Rifle. Remotes have been acting up too. I put them on the objective, the blow up and no one dies. I've seen it happen with my own eyes. 3 enemies inside and it just explodes but no damage happens. Shotgun is wonky sometimes too. Hit someone they lol and have no damage dealt while I get lit up. Proxies are also weird- saw an HAV drove over a ton of them, yet none exploded. We used to have a time machine


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