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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.01.12 02:11:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:This thread shall be used to publicly aknowledge the scions of no skill so that others might be aware of their actions, transgressions, and take appropriate action to either avoid or kill such members. Please be aware that all these groups commonly run with plentiful numbers of nanite injectors and that should you choose to engage them, it is recommended that you not only kill them, but make sure their non revivabke by headshotting them, blowing them to bits, or shooting their body after its down. I reccomend this to such an extent that you ignore their other near by players to insure their 200k suit stays dead.
The best tactics for handling these corporations is to use a cheap disposable suit armed with remote explosives. With the exception of certain heavy builds, no proto suit can survive a remote, and they do not need to be double tapped. I personally reccomend a militia scout shotgunner build. Dampeners are useless as they regularly have at least one proto scanner available.
I encourage players to not associate with these players as they ruin the game and abuse the match making system. I have marked some as deserving of faction warfare team killing due to the unrepentant and abusive actions, and that perhaps some repercussions for said actions will at least give them pause before steam rolling some newberries and those less skilled/experienced.
Nyan San/chan: Well known proto stompers from japan. This corp is rarely found as an individual and is often squaded with a full squad of other proto sompers, usually from their own corp though known to squad and que syn with other known proto stomp corps. They are fond of using proto tanks with proto logo suit drivers who will hop out to repair their vehicle, allowing them to have more hardeners and damage mods then most proto tankers. They rarely role rail gun tanks but will often bring 3-4 proto blaster tanks to the field. When not using tank squads they will use the ,latest FoTM weapon, at this current time proto rail rifles, usually assault. Several of their members will also use core locus grenade spam so avoid bunching in groups, and remember that their blast radius is larger then other locus grenades. They are also well known users of the equipment lag glitch, however the recent patch seems to have fixed this to an extent. They will also commonly use cheap locations such as the mushroom top, or other unassaultable locations if the situation warrants. Most commonly found in ambush. Their actions warrant FW killing in my opinion
Molon labe: Another proto group, currently quite fond of rolling squads of proto tanks, all blaster as observed thus far. Not to be under estimated out of their tanks, and often found squaring with or que syncing with other proto corps, including nyan. They also have several associated groups that occasionally role with them, however rest assured if you see at least 3 of these members, they are most likely in a squad of 6, from composed of lesser known allied corps or other proto corps, and most likely all running proto gear. They will also use mlt tanks once any possible enemy tank threat has been neutralized, so if you want to hurt them the worst, kill their initial tanks if you can. They are also known to utilize assault dropships and it is not uncommon for them to field 2 or more if they do. Found in ambush and doms. Also warrants faction warfare team killing.
Ancient exiles: not as commonly found as the first two, squads and que syncing squads are still a regular occurance, and often consists of at least 1-2 tanks. Little other Intel is known of their tactics and associations with other corps, however they still pose a threat when found in public matches
Sver True blood: A large corp with many members, not all of whome proto stomp, however when found In A full squad of their own it is more or less gaurenteed to consist of all proto players. When found they do not utilize tanks as much as the others, however that does not mean they will not do so. Their corps proto players seem quite fond of HMGs and it is not uncommon to find 2 or more protons backed by logo support.
There are many many other corps in addition to these who engage in such actions, however these are the more common offenders. Other offending parties include
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I would offer isk bounties on these players however such is outside my budget at this time, if any body wishes to discuss become patron for such bounties however please message me in game. I will continue to update this as tactics, corps, and other information becomes available, and encourage players tobrag by provideing kill screens, information, and other such details pertaining to proto stompers.
you do realize that if most of us see you and your corp now we'll run proto and bring out a f*** ton of tank simply to wind you up now don't you? and if you die to my piece of c*** tank (zero skills) you kinda deserved to die cos i'm an awful tanker... actually i'm a pretty awful FPS player too haha
Real Gallente structure tank :)
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:25:00 -
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in all honesty it sounds more to do with the bad matchmaking system than corps running proto or not and someone with lower sp got their a** handed to them. it happens and i know from experience with friends that it can discourage newer players. i finally convinced a bunch of friends to sign up or come back on after a few months break to try the game and i was running a low sp alt so we all had around 2mill sp and our first match planted us in an ambush with 2 full squads of Rainbow Effect back when they were running Ambs with vehicles and proto fittings and we went 0:80 on our team and from the look of the player table everyone on ourside was in starter corps. yeah our corp and myself run proto from time to time. i have around 26 different fits i can use in a match for dropping uplinks, hives, full logi, heavy and a slayer logi as well as bpo suits. you might get killed while am in my proto suit but be in wrong place at wrong time because the next minute al be running around in my templar sentinel with an exile but if i choose to use proto then thats up to me. i've played and grinded my a** off to get to the 36m sp i have to use the suits i have effectivly and to earn the isk i do to run the proto suits. soetimes i can lose 2mill a match but if the match is a good battle i don't care. over the past few weeks my corp and myself have been in some great battles where its been really close and sometimes we won, sometimes we lost and we've gone 20+ kills and 10+ deaths on each side but so we come to the forums to whine about it? nah we send a GG to the other team cos they got their act together and retaliated. DUST is primarily a squad based shooter and working together is in most part essential to win against a team of peopel who are working together. all you shy bluedots who are afraid to get on comms just need to grow a set and start playing together
Proto and proud!!
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.01.12 11:18:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:in all honesty it sounds more to do with the bad matchmaking system than corps running proto or not and someone with lower sp got their a** handed to them. it happens and i know from experience with friends that it can discourage newer players. i finally convinced a bunch of friends to sign up or come back on after a few months break to try the game and i was running a low sp alt so we all had around 2mill sp and our first match planted us in an ambush with 2 full squads of Rainbow Effect back when they were running Ambs with vehicles and proto fittings and we went 0:80 on our team and from the look of the player table everyone on ourside was in starter corps. yeah our corp and myself run proto from time to time. i have around 26 different fits i can use in a match for dropping uplinks, hives, full logi, heavy and a slayer logi as well as bpo suits. you might get killed while am in my proto suit but be in wrong place at wrong time because the next minute al be running around in my templar sentinel with an exile but if i choose to use proto then thats up to me. i've played and grinded my a** off to get to the 36m sp i have to use the suits i have effectivly and to earn the isk i do to run the proto suits. soetimes i can lose 2mill a match but if the match is a good battle i don't care. over the past few weeks my corp and myself have been in some great battles where its been really close and sometimes we won, sometimes we lost and we've gone 20+ kills and 10+ deaths on each side but so we come to the forums to whine about it? nah we send a GG to the other team cos they got their act together and retaliated. DUST is primarily a squad based shooter and working together is in most part essential to win against a team of peopel who are working together. all you shy bluedots who are afraid to get on comms just need to grow a set and start playing together Once again the issue is not proto equipment, teamwork, or anything else. It is those blatentky and REPETITIVELY make the game worse form others, by doing such things as running only proto and the like, For all those of you who don't seem to get it. Next time your squad is against nyan San, role basic gear. No advance no nothing else, just basic. And your whole squad has to do it, not just one person, whole damb squad. Remember that match, and imagine havinfg to repeat the same damb match over and over and o er for the next six months. And then remember that all those millions of sp actually make your basic the equivalent of an advance. You all came up together, skilled up together, been running for months and months and months. When you first started his game you were all equal, well equaled. I have yet to hear one person defend the actions of these people that has less the 10m sp. You realize there is a reason no one has? You all defend yourself but none of you have experienced anything similar to the current state of the game for newberries. Perhaps 1.7 made it worse with the addition of the vehicle spam, but proto stomping has always been an issue, and will continue to be till matchmaking is improved. We all know matchmaking is an issue, both sides keep pointing it out, fine, but till CCP gets off their ass and fixes it its OK to just let it to continue to happen? I guess that's as good a reason to justify murder, no one stopped me.
yup and thats why its more down to the match making than the corps who actually do it. we've been up against nyan and sver who were runnign proto and we've switched to our proto and given them hell but thats because most of us in molon have been playing the game since the Mordu's trials over 2yrs ago and we know each other so well.
i've been in matches where even running full proto we've had our a** handed to us and i've cursed every name under the sun but coming to the forums whining about it just makes you look a lil whiney and pathetic. yes peopel run proto, boo-hoo, they were runnign proto back when i was still only in std and adv gear and i had a kdr of 0.27as a logi but as i've gotten better at the game and betetr equipment, suits and just simply a better gamer as time progressed my kdr has gone upto 1.24 over the past 8 months. early life in new eden sucks both in dust and eve. just use cheap stuff to build money up while you save sp up and try run with familiar members to work tactics up. if your seeign loads of tanks build a cheap AV fit up. spend 13k sp just getting standard swarms and put a couple damage mods on it and pester the tanks. at some point we were all 'useless blue dots' but instead of whining about it on the forums look at what could have been done. did you all just constantly throw yourselves into a heavuly defended area one by one isntead of re-groupoing? did you use scanners effectivly? are you all trying to be the hero and not repping each other? honestly if you want to jump into the public channel Thor posted come run with us a bit. we don't bite and you might find having some more experience players makes the game more fun. it did for me when i joined PRO (the corp most of molon is made up of) all those months ago and they helped me improve my game
Proto and proud!!
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.01.12 11:37:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:I know right? I'm about to start sending thank you messages to people who kill me with something other then a rail or combat rifle! Scramblers I don't actually mind to much, though I tink assault scrsmblers push it a bit.
have to admit i'm sick of seeing amarr heavy frames and adv rail rifles. other day i was in a match and got killed by 7 different guys each runnign exactly the same thing. problem is ccp pickup on why a certain wepaon is being over used and it'll get changed. then all them folk who rushed into skillign the new FOTM will be on here crying for a respec haha.
one of the best things i did was get prof 5 on my assault rifle because then even your exiles become beasty (its worth picking up the starter pack simply for th eexile bpo lol)
Proto and proud!!
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.01.12 11:51:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:rage as I watch countless matches where newberries, corp mates, friends, are brutalized put down, and frustrated for no other reason then that the players that have been here longer can do that to them.
and thats exactly what CCP need to be looking at sorting the match making out because newer players are experiencing this far too much and its putting them off. out of the guys i got to try dust out none of them still play because they got sick of dying repeatedly in every game that they just went back to BF4 where its a little more balanced.
no matter how much an amazingplayer you are if you only have 500k sp and your up against a squad of 35m sp guys you'll die a lot and if ccp want the player base to grow they need to spend some time balancing the new player experience because currently if you're a new player then the game isn't that fun and a do feel for ya, but with EVE/DUST the best way is to just talk to the guys who kick your a** or even try be friendly with them an drun with them.
back in my first years of EVE i was mining in lowsec in a tempest (back when we didn't have mining barges) and i got ganked by 3 pirates whoc nuked my ship, podded me and cost me about 150mil isk. i was fuming at first!! i was so angry and annoyed i didn't play for a week hahaha but then i cooled down and began messaging one of the players who killed me and mentioned i was an industrial char and i could build them cheap ships to save money and over the next 3yrs i made billions from their wars as an outside contracter dust is different in that whereas battlefield and cod you run a match and games over, you get killed and then move on but with dust there is more of a long term plan you have to think about which makes it unique. alliances and corps are built on the playerbase coming together in the most varied ways
Proto and proud!!
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