DUST Search - Strengthening the EVE/DUST Link

Aisha Ctarl wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

The root cause of my disagreement is that I just don't understand how lowly clones are able to call the shots for capsuleers.

If someone can give me a concrete reason how that would/does make sense then I'll back these ideas but it makes no sense to me in the slightest.

Read this paragraph.

Capsuleers who are interested in the resources at PC planets in M.H. will be able to scan the planets for resources via PI with one change - it will show what resources are where, but it will show what DUST corp is sitting on top of them. The capsuleer could then get in contact with corp leadership and show interest in the resources that they are "squatting" on. Contracts could be drawn up, and agreements made where the DUST corp can obtain those resources for the capsuleers or EVE corp and get a cut of the ISK that the EVE corp generates for their efforts.

DUST Mercs aren't calling the shots per se, there would be contractual agreements between EVE capsuleers and DUST mercs as to how resources will be acquired and distributed between the two entities.

As stated in another above post - EVE Capusleers cannot simply bombard a district that has resources they want without having at least one DUST merc in their corp. With only one DUST merc on the ground, the defending corp will easily defeat the EVE capsuleer plus one DUST merc "army" and would still maintain their rights over that district.

I suggest you reread my posts and I'll clear up anything else you'd like (no malice intended).


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TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2114	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:28:00 - [1] - Quote I'm pretty sure that any capsuleer that wants those resources would rather just join a dust corp and get it for free with zero effort. I think the root problem is that we 'mercenaries' own land and the ps3 won't allow us to do anything with it anyway. To put that into perspective, someone requested corp logos on our suits and tanks only the other day, about 6 months ago a ccp dev stated in a pretty much identical thread that logos are actually more of a strain than we realise, too much memory usage to load the individual logos. Us working for eve corps would give a unique feel, the whole owning land carebear rubbish is nothing new and does nothing to set dust apart from X amount of games that have done that kind of thing time and again, the only difference is that this is an fps, we do pubs and fw, so the only difference with pc is that you could potentially be more stressed than regular matches, woop dee fkin doo lol. Capsuleers being able to gain resources is just meh, any semi intelligent xapsuleer would just join a dust corp, accept mercs into their corp or just build a hybrid corp. You are also forgetting that a capsuleer would most likely rather bomb the sht out of said corps planet and take the resources. You are not thinking clearly, we are just sub par human clones with a short life span. No malice either, I'm just saying and its been a long day, I barely read your thread but iv heard that idea repeatedly and it just seems short sighted and does nothing in the long run but give a bit of mediocre fun temporarily. The powers in the wrong hands mate, pc is backwards. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2114	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:34:00 - [2] - Quote The utmost I believe we should be able to control in pc is invading and holding districts to ransom so you can essentially be a pirate if you want, you'd not own it but all production would stop and the owner would have to hire mercs or use their own from corp to out them. Do you realise how many clones your consciousness would go through to actually build si? Neither do I but I'm guessing a lot. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2114	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:38:00 - [3] - Quote If you want to play farmville though and stop bring a merc then you could join an eve corp or recruit capsuleers, choice is better, many of us don't want to HAVE to play farmville, a lot of players still relish being a merc. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2115	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:51:00 - [4] - Quote The root cause of my disagreement is that I just don't understand how lowly clones are able to call the shots for capsuleers. If someone can give me a concrete reason how that would/does make sense then I'll back these ideas but it makes no sense to me in the slightest. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2116	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:59:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: If you want to play farmville though and stop bring a merc then you could join an eve corp or recruit capsuleers, choice is better, many of us don't want to HAVE to play farmville, a lot of players still relish being a merc. Why would you not what to manage the logistical concerns of running and operating privately set up colonies, warehouses, manufactories? I know I would relish running and maintaining corporate holdings on world we claim for ourselves, etc. This is what mercs do, when the fight and take land, they sell it or use it, if they use it they have a business backing them. I doubt modern PMC's are solely focused on one market. Your not wrong and ye it'd be fun but the elephant in the room is that we are just clones, lowly sub par filth walking in the shadows of immortals, fighting our miniature dirt war. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2116	Posted - 2014.01.15 22:02:00 - [6] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: The root cause of my disagreement is that I just don't understand how lowly clones are able to call the shots for capsuleers. If someone can give me a concrete reason how that would/does make sense then I'll back these ideas but it makes no sense to me in the slightest. Read this paragraph. Capsuleers who are interested in the resources at PC planets in M.H. will be able to scan the planets for resources via PI with one change - it will show what resources are where, but it will show what DUST corp is sitting on top of them. The capsuleer could then get in contact with corp leadership and show interest in the resources that they are "squatting" on. Contracts could be drawn up, and agreements made where the DUST corp can obtain those resources for the capsuleers or EVE corp and get a cut of the ISK that the EVE corp generates for their efforts. DUST Mercs aren't calling the shots per se, there would be contractual agreements between EVE capsuleers and DUST mercs as to how resources will be acquired and distributed between the two entities. As stated in another above post - EVE Capusleers cannot simply bombard a district that has resources they want without having at least one DUST merc in their corp. With only one DUST merc on the ground, the defending corp will easily defeat the EVE capsuleer plus one DUST merc "army" and would still maintain their rights over that district. I suggest you reread my posts and I'll clear up anything else you'd like (no malice intended). Hmmm, fair enough, it does make sense. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2116	Posted - 2014.01.15 22:05:00 - [7] - Quote Either way, although I don't like it, you are still the only person I can see among about 4 others I'd like to join/stay in the CPM. Edit: don't like it as in this idea, not you Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.