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Buwaro Draemon
FACTION WARFARE ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.11 07:36:00 -
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The one that has me thinking the most is the Amarr large laser turrets. We know that we will have both pulse and beam variants. But the beam one has me thinking. "Will it melt through any shields surprisingly quick?" "How will it's turn speed be?" I see the dooms days of Caldari Dropships when they are flying around and suddenly a powerful beam destroys it out of nowhere. I can just imagine it.
Now the Minmatar turret I don't know how will that one work. But please speculate to give me an image |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
524
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Posted - 2014.01.11 07:49:00 -
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I hope a gatling style, then an Abram's M1 style- not this 'can't look down, only firable at targets from tacnet, zero splash, unable to blah blah' bull, people hear 'artillery' and think 'OP nerf it NOW' Like flaylocks- rocketpistol=OP NERF IT MD-nubetoob NERF IT Smg- spray n pray bullet hose NERF IT
I hope the Min tanks get equal slot layout, and all tanks get 1 extra slot(cal tank 4/2, gal tank 2/4, amarr tank 1/5,min tank 3/3) Cannon similar to railgun- forward facing slow RoF high alpha, fires like flaylock, and has a range of 499m(rails are 600) Autocannon is HMG style or twin 30mm cannon, less DOS than blaster, but still effective against tanks.
Under 28db
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14)
I have a God, His name is Dakka.
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
385
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Posted - 2014.01.11 08:11:00 -
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I want this on my minmatar HAV
Doubles as overdrive when shooting backwards |
Buwaro Draemon
FACTION WARFARE ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.11 08:43:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:I hope a gatling style, then an Abram's M1 style- not this 'can't look down, only firable at targets from tacnet, zero splash, unable to blah blah' bull, people hear 'artillery' and think 'OP nerf it NOW' Like flaylocks- rocketpistol=OP NERF IT MD-nubetoob NERF IT Smg- spray n pray bullet hose NERF IT
I hope the Min tanks get equal slot layout, and all tanks get 1 extra slot(cal tank 4/2, gal tank 2/4, amarr tank 1/5,min tank 3/3) Cannon similar to railgun- forward facing slow RoF high alpha, fires like flaylock, and has a range of 499m(rails are 600) Autocannon is HMG style or twin 30mm cannon, less DOS than blaster, but still effective against tanks.
So pretty much Gallente tanks are done for.
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Buwaro Draemon
FACTION WARFARE ARMY
100
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Posted - 2014.01.11 08:45:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:I want this on my minmatar HAV Doubles as overdrive when shooting backwards
This is what nightmares are made off |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2014.01.11 08:53:00 -
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Lets talk the past of turrets.
Small blasters and small rails have always been so completely worthless that literally nobody uses them (especially from a dropship, side or front gun).
CCP has made it obvious over the last year that they either are incompetent or intend to have only one viable small turret. If they add 2 ,5 ,16 or more they will all be equally worthless.
There can be only one! |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
526
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Posted - 2014.01.11 08:54:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:I hope a gatling style, then an Abram's M1 style- not this 'can't look down, only firable at targets from tacnet, zero splash, unable to blah blah' bull, people hear 'artillery' and think 'OP nerf it NOW' Like flaylocks- rocketpistol=OP NERF IT MD-nubetoob NERF IT Smg- spray n pray bullet hose NERF IT
I hope the Min tanks get equal slot layout, and all tanks get 1 extra slot(cal tank 4/2, gal tank 2/4, amarr tank 1/5,min tank 3/3) Cannon similar to railgun- forward facing slow RoF high alpha, fires like flaylock, and has a range of 499m(rails are 600) Autocannon is HMG style or twin 30mm cannon, less DOS than blaster, but still effective against tanks. So pretty much Gallente tanks are done for. Kinda, but not quite: A min tank finds gal tank at 60 meters, starts shooting(damage bonus to armor) means gal rank is dead UNLESS he can find a way to encircle the min tank, like a blaster tank finding a rail tank and outstrafin him.
Now imagine this one- gal tank finds min tank at 110 meters, starts shooting min tank, min tank activetes nitrous, damage mod, and shield hardener and keeps gal tank at 130 meters(just outside of effective i beleive) gal tank loses due to being outranged.
And then the inffamous anti infantry- min will have higher ROF, but lots less damage per shot. Meaning you can't just place 2 shots and kill that militia frame, you need 5 or 6, meaning lot's more wasted ammo if Cone Of Fire is also implemented(this also means you can't shoot a gal-tank from excessive range and 'snipe' them like blasters, however you could still attack from 10 or so meters outside of gal optimal. Gallente tanks would still maintain higher DPS, along with turn rate, at the expense of lower attack range. Min gains range, and (maybe) burst DPS, at expense of sustained DPS, ammo efficiency, and turret turn rate.
Under 28db
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14)
I have a God, His name is Dakka.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
485
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Posted - 2014.01.11 09:56:00 -
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You guys and your blasters. They are anti infantry not anti vehicle turrets. Soon the gallente will have an anti vehicle turret. I'm thinking it pulls up to a tank and just hurls plasma at it then takes off
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Evolution-7
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
283
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:13:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:The one that has me thinking the most is the Amarr large laser turrets. We know that we will have both pulse and beam variants. But the beam one has me thinking. "Will it melt through any shields surprisingly quick?" "How will it's turn speed be?" I see the dooms days of Caldari Dropships when they are flying around and suddenly a powerful beam destroys it out of nowhere. I can just imagine it. Now the Minmatar turret I don't know how will that one work. But please speculate to give me an image
Amarr small turret is pulse Amarr large turret is beam
Or both could have variants
Pulse is less accurate more DPS Beam is highly accurate less dps
Beam turrets better for AV Pulse turrets better for AP
Minmatar, we have projectils so we can say, two turrets
Artillery turrets and autocannon turrets
Minmatar small turret has only autocannon variant Minmatar large turret has artillery and autocannon
Artillery - low accuracy (projectile goes faster than a plasma cannon round, moderate rate of fire high splash high damage. Primary focus : clearing out hordes of infantry. AV aswell, requires high accuracy which makes it balanced.
Autocannon - dual turrets on the large (like large missile turrets) small turrets has a single turret graphic (small blasters/railgun/missiles) Primary focus, large dispersion high damage moderate rate of fire.
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Evolution-7
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
283
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:16:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Lets talk the past of turrets.
Small blasters and small rails have always been so completely worthless that literally nobody uses them (especially from a dropship, side or front gun).
CCP has made it obvious over the last year that they either are incompetent or intend to have only one viable small turret. If they add 2 ,5 ,16 or more they will all be equally worthless.
There can be only one!
Before 1.4 blasters and missiles were good, a record of two viable small turrets from May 6th to September 3rd 2013, RIP
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Buwaro Draemon
FACTION WARFARE ARMY
101
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Posted - 2014.01.11 11:27:00 -
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Evolution-7 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:The one that has me thinking the most is the Amarr large laser turrets. We know that we will have both pulse and beam variants. But the beam one has me thinking. "Will it melt through any shields surprisingly quick?" "How will it's turn speed be?" I see the dooms days of Caldari Dropships when they are flying around and suddenly a powerful beam destroys it out of nowhere. I can just imagine it. Now the Minmatar turret I don't know how will that one work. But please speculate to give me an image Amarr small turret is pulse Amarr large turret is beam Or both could have variants Pulse is less accurate more DPS Beam is highly accurate less dps Beam turrets better for AV Pulse turrets better for AP
Minmatar, we have projectils so we can say, two turrets Artillery turrets and autocannon turrets Minmatar small turret has only autocannon variant Minmatar large turret has artillery and autocannon Artillery - low accuracy (projectile goes faster than a plasma cannon round, moderate rate of fire high splash high damage. Primary focus : clearing out hordes of infantry. AV aswell, requires high accuracy which makes it balanced. Autocannon - dual turrets on the large (like large missile turrets) small turrets has a single turret graphic (small blasters/railgun/missiles) Primary focus, large dispersion high damage moderate rate of fire.
The beam turret will depend mostly on it's turning speed. If it has a very high speed then Shield vehicles are ******. Even if it does have a lower DPS it will still eat through shields.
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