DUST Search - Did anyone ever wonder WHY tanks are so cheap, suddenly?

Criteria Shipment wrote:

Surt gods end wrote:

Charlotte O'Dell wrote:

Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform-
Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway.

So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds.

I just thought they just listened to Surt Gods End, after the one hundredth time i said "you want more tanks on the field? more DS? lower the damn price"

I should have also said But don't forget not to make AV nonexistent.

You should've said,"ADD PVE YOU NUMBNUTS".

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Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1561	Posted - 2014.01.11 04:59:00 - [1] - Quote Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4424	Posted - 2014.01.11 05:02:00 - [2] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. Kinda makes me think of this next event. The focus around Scouts makes it pretty damn clear they want to mine as much data on Scouts as possible for the rebalance of the suits. Honestly, I think we might be seeing a cost reduction in suits the same way we did in vehicles. Among other things, the entire CPM is unanimous on getting rid of suit tiers and just having bonuses for the skill levels, so reducing the cost in addition would make sense. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Centurion mkII Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 188	Posted - 2014.01.11 05:03:00 - [3] - Quote Is it do to more efficient manufacturing method? Perhaps more competitors have drove the price down.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1738	Posted - 2014.01.11 05:17:00 - [4] - Quote Mollerz market intel volume #4 Buy Caldari FW tanks. They will be worth a lot of ISK some day. Also, buy Gallente tanks. They, also, will be worth a lot of ISK some day. IMHO, not as much as caldari for the initial purchase price. These opportunities come along once in awhile as these guys figure it out. Why take me serious? I'm already a billionaire on paper once the player market opens. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Criteria Shipment Blood Unit 13 Zero-Day 710	Posted - 2014.01.11 05:22:00 - [5] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. Tank 514 confirmed. Fuq off half life. Goodbye, world! (püú-ÿ+í-ÿ-é)
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1557	Posted - 2014.01.11 05:29:00 - [6] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. I just thought they just listened to Surt Gods End, after the one hundredth time i said "you want more tanks on the field? more DS? lower the damn price" I should have also said But don't forget not to make AV nonexistent.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3308	Posted - 2014.01.11 05:31:00 - [7] - Quote If so, then they could've taken that $#!t over by Tranquility. Forcing players to shovel 6-800k per match or get red-lined by WoT scrubs is a complete failure. But I guess we might as well get 'em while 'der cheap. I already have 60 in stock just waiting for a price increase. CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
Criteria Shipment Blood Unit 13 Zero-Day 711	Posted - 2014.01.11 05:33:00 - [8] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. I just thought they just listened to Surt Gods End, after the one hundredth time i said "you want more tanks on the field? more DS? lower the damn price" I should have also said But don't forget not to make AV nonexistent. You should've said,"ADD PVE YOU NUMBNUTS". Goodbye, world! (püú-ÿ+í-ÿ-é)
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1558	Posted - 2014.01.11 05:37:00 - [9] - Quote Criteria Shipment wrote: Surt gods end wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. I just thought they just listened to Surt Gods End, after the one hundredth time i said "you want more tanks on the field? more DS? lower the damn price" I should have also said But don't forget not to make AV nonexistent. You should've said,"ADD PVE YOU NUMBNUTS". would have kept those disgusted with 1.7 still playing dust rather then leave. Your right. in matter of fact having PVE would hold people over though least popular updates.
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 117	Posted - 2014.01.11 05:46:00 - [10] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. That's reminds me about then one time in beta for data collection we all got free infinite copy not only of HAV, but LAB and Dropship I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits

Rusty Shallows 773	Posted - 2014.01.11 07:24:00 - [11] - Quote I do love a Conspiracy Theory with a plausible explanation. Better than the alternative. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1566	Posted - 2014.01.11 07:28:00 - [12] - Quote Atiim wrote: If so, then they could've taken that $#!t over by Tranquility. Forcing players to shovel 6-800k per match or get red-lined by WoT scrubs is a complete failure. But I guess we might as well get 'em while 'der cheap. I already have 60 in stock just waiting for a price increase. Quit crying. If you have a valid point, don't whine about it and then complain when people disagree. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
DaBOMB dotCOM Mountain Man Militia 14	Posted - 2014.01.11 07:29:00 - [13] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. I swear they did it because people like me explode them so easily LOOL I die a lot and I like to eat cake..
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3316	Posted - 2014.01.11 08:04:00 - [14] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Atiim wrote: If so, then they could've taken that $#!t over by Tranquility. Forcing players to shovel 6-800k per match or get red-lined by WoT scrubs is a complete failure. But I guess we might as well get 'em while 'der cheap. I already have 60 in stock just waiting for a price increase. Quit crying. If you have a valid point, don't whine about it and then complain when people disagree. Well, unless you would be so kind as to argue against them, the points I just made are valid. Quit Crying? Hypocrite much? Also, am I mistaken or is Tranquility the test server? Then again, I thought Sony said no to having a test server for DUST 514. Man, these forums are really starting to take a toll on my memory. I should take a break after this whole AV problem is solved. CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR Scrubs and Tank Spammers, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries 261	Posted - 2014.01.11 08:04:00 - [15] - Quote well if they had a test sever it woulden't happen "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
steve0809 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4	Posted - 2014.01.11 08:54:00 - [16] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. So my thinking goes like this: A lot of people have AUR items , either suits or weapons or equipment , allow tank spam and lots of quick deaths and AUR sales go up. Same with the ridiculous TTK , the more people die the more money CCP makes. But what they haven't considered is the amount of people this is chasing away, I can hardly ever squad up with Corp mates anymore because so many have left.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1017	Posted - 2014.01.11 08:58:00 - [17] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. MAY? It should be fairly apparent at this point that this whole game is stress testing. Tanks (vehicles) specifically are being stress tested as of this patch;but, it's all play testing for the real deal. There is no test server. This game going to console was for a reason GÇö built in test base. It would have been harder to garner that amount on the PC while trying to actually make money off the game. Also, why scare off their real player base (EVE players) at this point? You think that is tin foil hat talk? No, that is practical business talk. That's how I'd do it. FPS based game? A company with no experience in FPS games? Need investment? A tit for tat investment would work well? Don't have to ruin your rep in the PC market? A buit in large player base of younglings and not too serious kids that can continually enter through the revolving door of F2P? Hell yeah, let's do it! No reason not to run it on said investor's platform until the important stuff is added (Hint: it ain't all the racial suits). Why go through the trouble of attracting gamers on the PC to play test like they had to do with EVE? F2P on the Sony network is zero money spent on advertising. Zero need to attract anybody really. Just let them wander through. Hell, they even admitted as much if you hear what they were really saying at EVE Vegas. Face it console kiddies you are play testers. You will help design a wonderful game for the big boys. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
R F Gyro Clones 4u 953	Posted - 2014.01.11 09:28:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Atiim wrote: If so, then they could've taken that $#!t over by Tranquility. Forcing players to shovel 6-800k per match or get red-lined by WoT scrubs is a complete failure. But I guess we might as well get 'em while 'der cheap. I already have 60 in stock just waiting for a price increase. Quit crying. If you have a valid point, don't whine about it and then complain when people disagree. Well, unless you would be so kind as to argue against them, the points I just made are valid. Quit Crying? Hypocrite much? Also, am I mistaken or is Tranquility the test server? Then again, I thought Sony said no to having a test server for DUST 514. Man, these forums are really starting to take a toll on my memory. I should take a break after this whole AV problem is solved. While I agree with your overall stance on tank balance Atiim, that post wasn't one of your best, and was somewhat inflammatory. Hence COD's "quit crying" response. Singularity (SiSi) is the test server, Tranquility (TQ) is the live server (for Eve & New Eden). But there are no Dust battle servers on SiSi, and no Dust client connectivity. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
R F Gyro Clones 4u 953	Posted - 2014.01.11 09:32:00 - [19] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Call me an optimist, but I think CCP saw this coming (tank spam) if they lowered the prices. The did so to collect a lot of data on how tanks perform- Face it: they had 2 types of tankers to get data from- newberries in militia stock fits and big boy tankers who rarely died, anyway. So this tank spam MAY have been intended so they can better balance tanks in the future- balance for EVERYONE. They're making bold adjustments to find a middle ground. Before, tanks were extremely hard to get into. Now, they're obviously way too easy. I feel they did this to find a happy medium quickly, instead of making marginal adjustments over several builds. I suspect you are being a bit generous with CCP here, but hey, that's what "benefit of the doubt" is for, huh? I think they (CCP) listened to the loudest voices in the community, responded to that, and have now discovered that there was a silent majority out there with a different opinion. Luckily, they have given themselves the ability to release regular updates, and have demonstrated that they are willing to use that to fix things. In summary: CCP may not make the best game design/balance decisions, but they have a great process for getting it right in the end. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 150	Posted - 2014.01.11 09:38:00 - [20] - Quote I hope they will let us gather data on the cloak first then. So many people wanting it to come prenerfed and ** lol. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4** \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY



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