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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:42:00 -
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.....but everyone uses them.....
I've removed them from every single one of my fittings, you should do the same.
Save your awareness while you still can!
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
350
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:49:00 -
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I use it and will always use it, relaying your position and field of vision to my squad  Knowledge is power.
Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
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Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
101
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:51:00 -
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Sorry. Everyone uses them because not everyone hates them. |
Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
4362
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:52:00 -
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THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:I use it and will always use it, relaying your position and field of vision to my squad Knowledge is power.
Once it gets nerfed you're going to suffer though. Relying so heavily on a piece of equipment that is bound to recieve some kind of nerf is never a good idea.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3295
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:54:00 -
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I still use Active Scanners on one or two of my Scout & MinAssault fittings, but I use the basic ones now so that I can't scan scout suits.
But I rarely, if not never rely on them.
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
4362
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:55:00 -
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Hobo on Fire wrote:Sorry. Everyone uses them because not everyone hates them.
Using them is like using Aim Assist.
You're horrible if you do, and will most likely deny any claims that they're OP. Being able to press one button for 3-5 Seconds, and a-presto, all your enemies appear within 100m of you regardless of walls or height advantage is ridiculous.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3295
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:59:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Hobo on Fire wrote:Sorry. Everyone uses them because not everyone hates them. Using them is like using Aim Assist. You're horrible if you do, and will most likely deny any claims that they're OP. Being able to press one button for 3-5 Seconds, and a-presto, all your enemies appear within 100m of you regardless of walls or height advantage is ridiculous.
You also forgot to mention how it shows everyone what direction the enemy(ies) are facing.
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
42
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:59:00 -
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Why would it get a nerf? Its useful, is rewarded by skill points, and Scouts can hide from all but one prototype model. I don't quite know how I feel about it being forced into the Gallente 'Logi Toolbelt' (would prefer bonus to rep tools) but I always bring it because I love its ability to corral blueberries into a semblance of teamplay. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
350
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:00:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:I use it and will always use it, relaying your position and field of vision to my squad Knowledge is power. Once it gets nerfed you're going to suffer though. Relying so heavily on a piece of equipment that is bound to recieve some kind of nerf is never a good idea.
I will use it in whatever capacity it evolves to in order to relay as much intel as I can. Even if they remove the spin, I'm already Galogi, I'll be scanning deeper for longer.
Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
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Zelorian Dexter snr
Nex Miles Militis
153
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:12:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:I use it and will always use it, relaying your position and field of vision to my squad Knowledge is power. Once it gets nerfed you're going to suffer though. Relying so heavily on a piece of equipment that is bound to recieve some kind of nerf is never a good idea.
Galente logi suit bonus is going to buff them beyond belief when the full racial suit line up hits. Can't wait. |
J0hlss0n
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
83
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:17:00 -
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I dont use them, never have.
Why?
Fulltime Heavy. =) |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
365
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:20:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:Why would it get a nerf? Its useful, is rewarded by skill points, and Scouts can hide from all but one prototype model. I don't quite know how I feel about it being forced into the Gallente 'Logi Toolbelt' (would prefer bonus to rep tools) but I always bring it because I love its ability to corral blueberries into a semblance of teamplay.
But it only shows for green dots.
And yes, doing a quick 360 and having a whole sphere of awareness is extremely lame. Takes a lot out of the game.
Amarr HAV Speculation
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echo47
Minmatar Republic
166
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:23:00 -
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I don't hate them. I hate the fact that they are damn hard to counter. With two low slots on my mini suit I have to sacrifice a lot to fit a complex dampner.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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Alistair Idario
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:24:00 -
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I love active scanners.
Nothing gives away an enemy scout's sneak attack quiet like them using an active scanner. Gives me plenty of warning and lets me get into an optimal defensive position, set up traps, and to generally stay on my toes more-so than usual. Good stuff.
I don't use them anymore, however. I find over reliance on scanners makes you too lax and unprepared for sudden attacks. Just from my experience however. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3508
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:33:00 -
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I'm not a big fan of shouting out to reds "I'M ABOUT TO ATTACK YOU", but I guess they're used so often that frontliners probably ignore the "you have been scanned" warning
We used to have a time machine
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:46:00 -
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I feel dirty for even going lvl 1 into them.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Kharga Lum
Xeno Labs Security
216
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Posted - 2014.01.11 03:14:00 -
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Every time I see "You have been scanned" appear on my HUD I look at my radar. I have yet to see anyone reveal themselves while using a scanner. Even if it turns out they're on the other side of a wall and I catch them with the scanner in their hand. They only appear on my radar when I lay eyes on them.
I'm having a hard time believing that the user is revealed at all. I've yet to witness this effect. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
3908
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Posted - 2014.01.11 03:18:00 -
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I just want to be a scout for my squad, it's not my fault it's fotm, is that so bad to want to use my role?
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
2520
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Posted - 2014.01.11 03:19:00 -
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The scanners should be changed so that a minimum scan time is required before a red dot shows up on the screen.
In addition to a minimum scan time for a successful scan CCP should implement a system where the scanner has a chance of failure depending on how close the targets signature is to the scanners sensitivity. Sometimes you'd get lucky and sometimes you'd get shot but at least there would be more caution when using a scanner.
This way you couldn't just spin scan and if you do you must deal with a very high possibility that there are invisible enemies around.
Remove "scan attempt prevented" for signatures x amount below the scanner threshold.
Show false positives.
Create interference when enemies are scanning in the same area.
Allow scanners to paint targets. Lock is lost once a new scan is preformed. This could help bring back squad vision in a more tactical form instead of simply having designated scan spammers.
For the record I love my scanner but its cheap as hell and destroying my awareness on the battlefield. It needs a massive reworking.
HellsGÇáorm, Director
Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
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Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
102
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Posted - 2014.01.11 04:42:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Hobo on Fire wrote:Sorry. Everyone uses them because not everyone hates them. Using them is like using Aim Assist. You're horrible if you do, and will most likely deny any claims that they're OP. Being able to press one button for 3-5 Seconds, and a-presto, all your enemies appear within 100m of you regardless of walls or height advantage is ridiculous.
I will deny they are OP because I maxed out profile dampening and can dodge the basic ones in an assault suit without fitting any modules. I carry an advanced level one on most of my fits, and still can't pick up the competent scouts or anyone who has a clue how dampeners work.
It's a valid tool, with a valid counter (profile dampeners, for those of you who haven't figured it out) don't cry because you can't adapt to the games mechanics.
I [i]will[/] give you that terrain and wall should have some effect on them, but not a drastic one; something along the lines of the scan precision being reduced based on how much solid material it goes through. That can be factored in without completely changing the system though. |
TunRa
NEW OMENS
354
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Posted - 2014.01.11 04:48:00 -
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I put 3 of them on my minmatar logi, never ending scanners. You mad?
Thanks CCP Foxfour
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
1010
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Posted - 2014.01.11 04:56:00 -
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I use them because everyone else uses them. I dont want to, but I don't really have a choice. It's scan or be scanned.
not every suit I have uses one though.
CALDARI not so MASTER RACE
Forum Warrior Level: 10
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