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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2714
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:36:00 -
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With the event coming up I'm sure there's going to be a lot more people giving knives a go for the first time. So in this video I go over the knife damage model and some basic knife strategies and tips.
Knife 101
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
656
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:46:00 -
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Oh, giving off our secrets huh?
"Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say
Alt of the great Godin
I like chocolate ^___^
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
267
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:48:00 -
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I love knives, only have basic ATM, but your video is EXTREMELY helpful. +1 King Thunderbolt reference.XD
Dropship Surfer
I will never stop killing you.
Basically, kind of a big deal.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2719
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:48:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Oh, giving off our secrets huh?
Reading from the ancient scroll of minja secrets. :D
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
267
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:49:00 -
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What event is it?
Dropship Surfer
I will never stop killing you.
Basically, kind of a big deal.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
364
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:49:00 -
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I want to like you, Cyrus, but you're a dirty Minmatar. 
Though I do have regular contact with Biohazard and WINMATAR.
Amarr HAV Speculation
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1208
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:50:00 -
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Good job,
I would stress that knowing your knife range is important.
and I loled at the "may or may not weigh to much"
KRRROOOOOOM
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2719
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:51:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:I want to like you, Cyrus, but you're a dirty Minmatar. Though I do have regular contact with Biohazard and WINMATAR.
Our love is forbidden.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1292
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:53:00 -
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Facepalm for all the guys that will try to do things like this with STD knives...
I will be one of them of course XD
"Our Blueberries are better than yours"
My Terribad Bolas Launcher
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
267
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:54:00 -
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^I do this as well.XD
Dropship Surfer
I will never stop killing you.
Basically, kind of a big deal.
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
4360
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:55:00 -
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Heavies are definitely the best targets. How that Proto Heavy couldn't see you is beyond me.
And also, remember, the last place people look is up.
Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
267
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:59:00 -
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I always look up, which gets me facestomped cause I'm not looking in front of me. And I do more pirouettes than I should.
Dropship Surfer
I will never stop killing you.
Basically, kind of a big deal.
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Radar R4D-47
0uter.Heaven
313
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:13:00 -
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Wanted to point out your damage model is incorrect. I (being a proto mini scout with pro 5 knives) have done extensive testing. Currently Nova Knife Damage is 2.5 times the base at a full charge.
Basic knives no proficiency or bonus with a full charge do 225 damage per swipe (if base is 90).
Advance Knives do 325 per swipe (if base is 130).
Proto knives do 525 per swipe.
Now put that on a proto minmatar scout with proficiency V Ishakone Nova Knives do 714 Damage per Swipe fully charged.
We tried to test headshots as well but a damage increase didn't occur. This could be from one of two things You can't headshot a blue dot. Nova knifes do not receive a headshot damage bonus even though a 150% shield increase can be seen via efficiency HUD. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2721
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:19:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:Wanted to point out your damage model is incorrect. I (being a proto mini scout with pro 5 knives) have done extensive testing. Currently Nova Knife Damage is 2.5 times the base at a full charge.
Basic knives no proficiency or bonus with a full charge do 225 damage per swipe (if base is 90).
Advance Knives do 325 per swipe (if base is 130).
Proto knives do 525 per swipe.
Now put that on a proto minmatar scout with proficiency V Ishakone Nova Knives do 714 Damage per Swipe fully charged.
We tried to test headshots as well but a damage increase didn't occur. This could be from one of two things You can't headshot a blue dot. Nova knifes do not receive a headshot damage bonus even though a 150% shield increase can be seen via efficiency HUD.
Thanks for the correction.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Faquira Bleuetta
0uter.Heaven
154
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:09:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:With the event coming up I'm sure there's going to be a lot more people giving knives a go for the first time. So in this video I go over the knife damage model and some basic knife strategies and tips. Knife 101
come and try to stab my ass im not those weak ass scrub 
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pÇÇpÇÇpÇÇn+Ån+Çpâ+ _/\__'
pÇÇpÇÇCOME AT ME BRO |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2728
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:15:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:With the event coming up I'm sure there's going to be a lot more people giving knives a go for the first time. So in this video I go over the knife damage model and some basic knife strategies and tips. Knife 101 come and try to stab my ass im not those weak ass scrub . n+Ån+în+î pÇÇpÇÇpÇÇpÇÇpÇÇ pÇÇpÇÇ pÇÇpâán+Çpâ+ / pâÄ)pÇÇpÇÇ GêºpÇÇpÇÇGêºpÇÇpÇÇpÇÇpÇÇn+ëpÇÇpâ+ / n+£pÇÇpÇÇ(-¦pâ+-ë pâ+`n+ëpâÄGîÆn+êpé¥._,pâÄ /pÇÇn+ëGîÆn++GîÆpé¥pâ+püÅpÇÇ n++pÇÇpÇÇn+Å S+¦n++ pâÄ pÇÇpÇÇ pâÄn+ñpÇÇpÇÇ|pÇÇ/ pÇÇpÇÇ `pâ+ `pâ+-GÇÿS¦¦`pâ+n+ë / pÇÇpÇÇpÇÇ S+¦ n+ú _S¦¦GÇÖs+ín+ë pÇÇpÇÇpÇÇn+Ån+Çpâ+ _/\__' pÇÇpÇÇCOME AT ME BRO
Challenge accepted 
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Scout Registry
417
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:36:00 -
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May or may not think that shotguns aren't heavy enough
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1726
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:46:00 -
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A few other tips:
When slashing- the 4th slash will result in the SFX firing off but the animation not playing. Thsi will result in no damage, and will continue for as long as you mash the slash button. You have ot stop slashing for a moment and move, or melee to rest whatever gets hosed.
Try to melee instead of slashing for the fourth time. This will help you avoid avoid running into that bug.
Also, in the current build, if you slash then sprint, you will find that you do not sprint at full speed. Again, you have to either stop for a second or melee and run.
Both of those situations get you killed a lot.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1210
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:48:00 -
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mollerz wrote:
Also, in the current build, if you slash then sprint, you will find that you do not sprint at full speed. Again, you have to either stop for a second or melee and run.
Crouch then sprint also fixes this one
KRRROOOOOOM
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
2446
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:53:00 -
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interesting to see how other minjas play
very similar :p
"Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.11 03:03:00 -
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Soon there will be a rise of Samarri to challenge the skill of all ninja and when that day comes New Eden shall never be the same....
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1726
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Posted - 2014.01.11 03:12:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:
Also, in the current build, if you slash then sprint, you will find that you do not sprint at full speed. Again, you have to either stop for a second or melee and run.
Crouch then sprint also fixes this one
I find melee to be the fastest fix?
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2732
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Posted - 2014.01.11 03:51:00 -
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Love all added tips guys. :D
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
3912
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Posted - 2014.01.11 03:54:00 -
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You using reactive plates?
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2734
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Posted - 2014.01.11 04:25:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:You using reactive plates?
Ya damn right.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5537
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Posted - 2014.01.11 04:38:00 -
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Man I want to be a scout now....... so much internal confliction.......
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1210
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Posted - 2014.01.11 04:45:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:
Also, in the current build, if you slash then sprint, you will find that you do not sprint at full speed. Again, you have to either stop for a second or melee and run.
Crouch then sprint also fixes this one I find melee to be the fastest fix?
Yes, with the added bonus of putting a melee kill in the feed
Just saying crouch and sprint also works for the info being out there.
-Melee is the preferred fix -
KRRROOOOOOM
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6381
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Posted - 2014.01.11 04:51:00 -
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I don't have a PS3. Why don't I have a PS3?
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1737
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Posted - 2014.01.11 05:01:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:
Also, in the current build, if you slash then sprint, you will find that you do not sprint at full speed. Again, you have to either stop for a second or melee and run.
Crouch then sprint also fixes this one I find melee to be the fastest fix? Yes, with the added bonus of putting a melee kill in the feed Just saying crouch and sprint also works for the info being out there. -Melee is the preferred fix -
dude it is never about the melee kill. it's always about being able to slash again.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1210
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Posted - 2014.01.11 05:04:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:
Also, in the current build, if you slash then sprint, you will find that you do not sprint at full speed. Again, you have to either stop for a second or melee and run.
Crouch then sprint also fixes this one I find melee to be the fastest fix? Yes, with the added bonus of putting a melee kill in the feed Just saying crouch and sprint also works for the info being out there. -Melee is the preferred fix - dude it is never about the melee kill. it's always about being able to slash again.
If I melee to get my slash working, and kill the guy while I am at itGǪ I have no problem with that (admittedly I have only had this happen twice)
Mostly i just maneuver/jump/slight pause (or die to a back peddle spray of bullets) before the forth slash and it does not glitch
KRRROOOOOOM
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1739
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Posted - 2014.01.11 05:19:00 -
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I mean, you have a bullet proof point. it just never works out that way 
Frame rate is way too low! However, if it ever happens, i will definitely let you know. lol
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Eberk Baldek
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2014.01.11 05:24:00 -
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I love the video. You are highly skilled! Thanks for the education. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
1739
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Posted - 2014.01.11 05:33:00 -
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As a knifer for the last year, I am super impressed with Cyr's ability to put himself in the best position to "charge" slash. That is a very important distinction. I am more of a head on slasher, and he almost makes me question my tactics.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK
132
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Posted - 2014.01.11 07:06:00 -
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Great vid moody. You were my inspiration to go proto knives when I did. Also he totally doesn't use a voice changer and if the shotgun was heavier it would definitely be more powerful...because science. |
I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1891
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Posted - 2014.01.11 07:43:00 -
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Is there a chat channel I can join to sqaud up with some scouts and practice? Stealth in numbers seems better than lone wolfing it.
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I make logistics videos!
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5540
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Posted - 2014.01.11 07:47:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Is there a chat channel I can join to sqaud up with some scouts and practice? Stealth in numbers seems better than lone wolfing it.
It is. Count me in if you ever need to be reminded that your scouting skills are solid and that you could be worse.....like me.....
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven
1138
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Posted - 2014.01.11 07:47:00 -
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Great video. Look forward to the event. |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5540
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Posted - 2014.01.11 07:48:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Great vid moody. You were my inspiration to go proto knives when I did. Also he totally doesn't use a voice changer and if the shotgun was heavier it would definitely be more powerful...because science.
Was testing out scouts tonight because of this vid.....fought your squad in game and was shown how good some Scouts are. GG mate.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
2122
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:39:00 -
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I think I'll spec into ADV Knives on my alt. I don't think I have enough SP for even a standard Scout suit for the event, though. I think I still have 40~ odd eagles to use, however.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK
133
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Posted - 2014.01.11 14:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:LeGoose wrote:Great vid moody. You were my inspiration to go proto knives when I did. Also he totally doesn't use a voice changer and if the shotgun was heavier it would definitely be more powerful...because science. Was testing out scouts tonight because of this vid.....fought your squad in game and was shown how good some Scouts are. GG mate.
Yeah GG. My only advice would be to not bother with knives on Manus peak due to how open the map is, at least until you get more comfortable in the role. |
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
768
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:59:00 -
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Just subbed to your channel. Really amazing content. Wish I had known about it earlier.
Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2746
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:25:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Just subbed to your channel. Really amazing content. Wish I had known about it earlier.
Thanks. I appreciate it!
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
710
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:42:00 -
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Fun vid to watch, and some great "intro" tips.
That being the caser... contrary to what you said about there "not being much more to say about knives".. there is :)
IgnitableAura's vid is great for 'Knives 201'. Even though he doest talk in it, his technique is stellar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN5enAXejfk
Warning for the sensitive: much profanity in the audio track.
Something i picked up from watching his vid, is that mastery of the indirect attack gives much power.
That is to say, when engaging an alert hostile.. dont try to run up to his face and slash... run up to his SIDE and slash.
You'll still get damage on him, but his aim will be thrown off.
There's one or two more tips I know about, but I'm keeping those to myself 
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1217
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:46:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:You using reactive plates? Ya damn right. Basic reactive plate on this fit. Sometimes I'll run enhanced but... ehhh. Don't have complex yet but that 2 reps per second is attractive. the fitting cost however...
You ever thought about just tossing a Rep on instead (I run the basic reactive on my Gal, because I don't want to lose mobility and no armour on my Minja)
KRRROOOOOOM
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2747
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Posted - 2014.01.11 18:26:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:You using reactive plates? Ya damn right. Basic reactive plate on this fit. Sometimes I'll run enhanced but... ehhh. Don't have complex yet but that 2 reps per second is attractive. the fitting cost however... You ever thought about just tossing a Rep on instead (I run the basic reactive on my Gal, because I don't want to lose mobility and no armour on my Minja)
Personally I like the extra buffer along with the rep. I'm able to take an extra bullet or two before I die. 1% speed decrease really isn't much. Basic reactives are nice though because they apply 1 hp/s without a speed penalty.
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