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Tectonic Fusion 957	Posted - 2014.01.10 18:57:00 - [1] - Quote My tiny scout suit can't do anything unless they're distracted, which I know is what we are suppose to be good at. Usually I can outstrafe their bullets and stuff, but heavys have a lot of bulk for that range. I am now trying out a militia heavy with an advanced rail rifle and complex stuff. It's really effective. My 300 EHP scout suit can't keep up much, and they managed to kill me 12 times in one game. A admit, I detonated myself 5 times, and got a bunch of remote explosive kills, but still...I had to resort to that to kill him and his squad + their teams blueberries. The combat rifle is nice for the scout suit, but anyone can run at a comparable speed and insta kill me. I did get 30 kills, but that's because a bunch of them were camping with forge guns, so their heads were big for me to slice off, and they weren't scanning at me for a bit, so I could slip in and kill a ton of them with remotes. I don't know how to fix this. Remove aim assist? Probably would fix it. I'd rather improve the aiming, because it's too inaccurate for me. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 277	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:01:00 - [2] - Quote Cool story.
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 220	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:04:00 - [3] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: My tiny scout suit can't do anything unless they're distracted, which I know is what we are suppose to be good at. Usually I can outstrafe their bullets and stuff, but heavys have a lot of bulk for that range. I am now trying out a militia heavy with an advanced rail rifle and complex stuff. It's really effective. My 300 EHP scout suit can't keep up much, and they managed to kill me 12 times in one game. A admit, I detonated myself 5 times, and got a bunch of remote explosive kills, but still...I had to resort to that to kill him and his squad + their teams blueberries. The combat rifle is nice for the scout suit, but anyone can run at a comparable speed and insta kill me. I did get 30 kills, but that's because a bunch of them were camping with forge guns, so their heads were big for me to slice off, and they weren't scanning at me for a bit, so I could slip in and kill a ton of them with remotes. I don't know how to fix this. Remove aim assist? Probably would fix it. I'd rather improve the aiming, because it's too inaccurate for me. No just bring in a new heavy suit that only allows a HEAVY gun. If you cant kill a heavy GG Open Beta Fed 16th. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
Tectonic Fusion 958	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:05:00 - [4] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: My tiny scout suit can't do anything unless they're distracted, which I know is what we are suppose to be good at. Usually I can outstrafe their bullets and stuff, but heavys have a lot of bulk for that range. I am now trying out a militia heavy with an advanced rail rifle and complex stuff. It's really effective. My 300 EHP scout suit can't keep up much, and they managed to kill me 12 times in one game. A admit, I detonated myself 5 times, and got a bunch of remote explosive kills, but still...I had to resort to that to kill him and his squad + their teams blueberries. The combat rifle is nice for the scout suit, but anyone can run at a comparable speed and insta kill me. I did get 30 kills, but that's because a bunch of them were camping with forge guns, so their heads were big for me to slice off, and they weren't scanning at me for a bit, so I could slip in and kill a ton of them with remotes. I don't know how to fix this. Remove aim assist? Probably would fix it. I'd rather improve the aiming, because it's too inaccurate for me. No just bring in a new heavy suit that only allows a HEAVY gun. If you cant kill a heavy GG I did kill DARK twice. Once with a combat rifle, and once when I placed a remote on his rear (or near it). Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Tectonica Fusionus Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:07:00 - [5] - Quote Soooo I shouldnt spec into tha scout suite?
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1470	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:09:00 - [6] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: My tiny scout suit can't do anything unless they're distracted, which I know is what we are suppose to be good at. Usually I can outstrafe their bullets and stuff, but heavys have a lot of bulk for that range. I am now trying out a militia heavy with an advanced rail rifle and complex stuff. It's really effective. My 300 EHP scout suit can't keep up much, and they managed to kill me 12 times in one game. A admit, I detonated myself 5 times, and got a bunch of remote explosive kills, but still...I had to resort to that to kill him and his squad + their teams blueberries WITH remote explosives. Pretty pathetic huh? The combat rifle is nice for the scout suit, but anyone can run at a comparable speed and insta kill me. I did get 30 kills, but that's because a bunch of them were camping with forge guns, so their heads were big for me to slice off, and they weren't scanning at me for a bit, so I could slip in and kill a ton of them with remotes. I don't know how to fix this. Remove aim assist? Probably would fix it. I'd rather improve the aiming, because it's too inaccurate for me. Working as intended, unique fits like that extract tears is what this game needs more of not more FotM junk. The lack of diversity is killing this game and making it dull so don't try to force fits and make it more bland. If anything we need more of everything so suits are unpredictable. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
Tectonic Fusion 958	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:12:00 - [7] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: My tiny scout suit can't do anything unless they're distracted, which I know is what we are suppose to be good at. Usually I can outstrafe their bullets and stuff, but heavys have a lot of bulk for that range. I am now trying out a militia heavy with an advanced rail rifle and complex stuff. It's really effective. My 300 EHP scout suit can't keep up much, and they managed to kill me 12 times in one game. A admit, I detonated myself 5 times, and got a bunch of remote explosive kills, but still...I had to resort to that to kill him and his squad + their teams blueberries WITH remote explosives. Pretty pathetic huh? The combat rifle is nice for the scout suit, but anyone can run at a comparable speed and insta kill me. I did get 30 kills, but that's because a bunch of them were camping with forge guns, so their heads were big for me to slice off, and they weren't scanning at me for a bit, so I could slip in and kill a ton of them with remotes. I don't know how to fix this. Remove aim assist? Probably would fix it. I'd rather improve the aiming, because it's too inaccurate for me. Working as intended, unique fits like that extract tears is what this game needs more of not more FotM junk. The lack of diversity is killing this game and making it dull so don't try to force fits and make it more bland. If anything we need more of everything so suits are unpredictable. It should be if you pair their weapons/modules on a suit, it's more effective than anything else. But also you can make even more roles by changing it up (like a heavy sniper/nova knifer). The heavy sniper's role is not to set up and scout for the enemy. It is to counter snipe, or just snipe in general because he is less mobile. While the Nova Knifing heavy...well...he's just a derp. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Incin3rate Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:15:00 - [8] - Quote That's a good idea, I think I will try it.
trraacx Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 59	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:15:00 - [9] - Quote OP, I get maybe 30 kills a week, I'd kill for 30 kills in a game in any suit.... Scout is the funnest annoying mosquito suit in the game regardless of results.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4671	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:19:00 - [10] - Quote RAGE! Amarr Victor! CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open

Jack Boost Zarena Family 300	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:32:00 - [11] - Quote hm... I want my 'freedom' in no ammo, no scan, no recharge, no eq, big hit box and slowest speed in the game... I can go anywhere where is flat terrain and I want to hear 'Boost slow down' CU and be prepared.
Valmorgan Aubaris Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate 164	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:36:00 - [12] - Quote Rage against the rail rifle, not the heavy, he's already gimped badly despite the buff. EVE alliance seeks mercs and corps! Join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today!
Tectonic Fusion 958	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:41:00 - [13] - Quote Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Rage against the rail rifle, not the heavy, he's already gimped badly despite the buff. I have no problem with callogis/gallogis with rail rifle. Why do I have problems against heavys with rails? Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Valmorgan Aubaris Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate 165	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:46:00 - [14] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Rage against the rail rifle, not the heavy, he's already gimped badly despite the buff. I have no problem with callogis/gallogis with rail rifle. Why do I have problems against heavys with rails? Headshot, aim for the head. EVE alliance seeks mercs and corps! Join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today!
Tectonic Fusion 959	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:55:00 - [15] - Quote Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Rage against the rail rifle, not the heavy, he's already gimped badly despite the buff. I have no problem with callogis/gallogis with rail rifle. Why do I have problems against heavys with rails? Headshot, aim for the head. I die before I do that. Either I strafe and live a bit longer before dying, or aim and die. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1939	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:59:00 - [16] - Quote Tectonica Fusionus wrote: Soooo I shouldnt spec into tha scout suite? Do it, we are squishy but fun(like bewbs...so I hear) "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Rusty Shallows 752	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:02:00 - [17] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: snip snip It should be if you pair their weapons/modules on a suit, it's more effective than anything else. But also you can make even more roles by changing it up (like a heavy sniper/nova knifer). The heavy sniper's role is not to set up and scout for the enemy. It is to counter snipe, or just snipe in general because he is less mobile. While the Nova Knifing heavy...well...he's just a derp A shift toward Heavy Weapon damage was a suggested fix during the dark days of 2013. . Allas changing the Heavy Weapon Reload Speed to a Heavy Weapon Damage modifier never happened. I rather like the next Frame Class bonus against explosives. Changing the Racial Bonuses (resistances) to a second small Class Bonus on all Heavy Weapon Damage would be an incentive to use HMGs. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 750	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:02:00 - [18] - Quote formula for rage suit 1x skinweave heavy BPO 1x Complex sheild recharger 1x Complex reactive plates 1x SB-38 Rail Rifle 1x Toxin smg and lots of cpu and pg for what ever nades bloat your Goat 1160 ehp and its about 20k isk Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Apply today! For the State Caldari Loyalist
Tectonic Fusion 960	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:04:00 - [19] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: formula for rage suit 1x skinweave heavy BPO 1x Complex sheild recharger 1x Complex reactive plates 1x SB-38 Rail Rifle 1x Toxin smg and lots of cpu and pg for what ever nades bloat your Goat 1160 ehp and its about 20k isk Reminds me of militia tanks, but 40k isk less effective. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 255	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:24:00 - [20] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: formula for rage suit 1x skinweave heavy BPO 1x Complex sheild recharger 1x Complex reactive plates 1x SB-38 Rail Rifle 1x Toxin smg and lots of cpu and pg for what ever nades bloat your Goat 1160 ehp and its about 20k isk I use a fit similar to this, tho i go with a complex damage mod :D

Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1017	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:29:00 - [21] - Quote Heavy anything other than heavy weapons makes me rage. Game is going downhill when it's better to just put on a heavy suit to do anything else. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
OZAROW Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1203	Posted - 2014.01.11 03:27:00 - [22] - Quote Cook a flux, count 3 sec, chuck it at the feet, on the 4Th sec it goes off, so start spraying their back with a GOOD smg, all of a sudden ur on target, the flux takes the shields an the armor melts before they spin, chances are if their using a RR their missing a huge tank for mobility so use two Smgs flux an RE, that fit treats my kdr nice, I use the assault an the breach to finish em off SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
Tectonic Fusion 964	Posted - 2014.01.11 18:45:00 - [23] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Cook a flux, count 3 sec, chuck it at the feet, on the 4Th sec it goes off, so start spraying their back with a GOOD smg, all of a sudden ur on target, the flux takes the shields an the armor melts before they spin, chances are if their using a RR their missing a huge tank for mobility so use two Smgs flux an RE, that fit treats my kdr nice, I use the assault an the breach to finish em off Breach = underpowered. And I'm fine with a basic combat rifle to save PG/CPU. I have prof 3. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 22	Posted - 2014.01.11 19:05:00 - [24] - Quote I'm one of the heavys who use Rail Rifles, sorry for causing you rage. Rookie With Little DUST Knowledge. Online Almost Everyday. Prototype Heavy, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle FCHW
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1351	Posted - 2014.01.11 19:15:00 - [25] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: My tiny scout suit can't do anything unless they're distracted, which I know is what we are suppose to be good at. Usually I can outstrafe their bullets and stuff, but heavys have a lot of bulk for that range. I am now trying out a militia heavy with an advanced rail rifle and complex stuff. It's really effective. My 300 EHP scout suit can't keep up much, and they managed to kill me 12 times in one game. A admit, I detonated myself 5 times, and got a bunch of remote explosive kills, but still...I had to resort to that to kill him and his squad + their teams blueberries WITH remote explosives. Pretty pathetic huh? The combat rifle is nice for the scout suit, but anyone can run at a comparable speed and insta kill me. I did get 30 kills, but that's because a bunch of them were camping with forge guns, so their heads were big for me to slice off, and they weren't scanning at me for a bit, so I could slip in and kill a ton of them with remotes. I don't know how to fix this. Remove aim assist? Probably would fix it. I'd rather improve the aiming, because it's too inaccurate for me. They make me rage too..... Only when I am not behind them with a proto reps leash.... Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1171	Posted - 2014.01.11 19:40:00 - [26] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Rage against the rail rifle, not the heavy, he's already gimped badly despite the buff. I have no problem with callogis/gallogis with rail rifle. Why do I have problems against heavys with rails? Because you like to complain? "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4691	Posted - 2014.01.11 19:41:00 - [27] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: My tiny scout suit can't do anything unless they're distracted, which I know is what we are suppose to be good at. Usually I can outstrafe their bullets and stuff, but heavys have a lot of bulk for that range. I am now trying out a militia heavy with an advanced rail rifle and complex stuff. It's really effective. My 300 EHP scout suit can't keep up much, and they managed to kill me 12 times in one game. A admit, I detonated myself 5 times, and got a bunch of remote explosive kills, but still...I had to resort to that to kill him and his squad + their teams blueberries WITH remote explosives. Pretty pathetic huh? The combat rifle is nice for the scout suit, but anyone can run at a comparable speed and insta kill me. I did get 30 kills, but that's because a bunch of them were camping with forge guns, so their heads were big for me to slice off, and they weren't scanning at me for a bit, so I could slip in and kill a ton of them with remotes. I don't know how to fix this. Remove aim assist? Probably would fix it. I'd rather improve the aiming, because it's too inaccurate for me. Working as intended, unique fits like that extract tears is what this game needs more of not more FotM junk. The lack of diversity is killing this game and making it dull so don't try to force fits and make it more bland. If anything we need more of everything so suits are unpredictable. woah woah! Bringing in logic on DUST forums?! U crazy?! FoTM is what people rely on in this game! Crutch after crutch. It's the foundation of every new DUST update. The balancing is so poor, that it allows people this luxury. I'm waiting on the imminent heavy suit nerf again, because it doesn't fit into the medium suit + light weapon FoTM trend. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Tectonica Fusionus Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2014.02.22 05:24:00 - [28] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: My tiny scout suit can't do anything unless they're distracted, which I know is what we are suppose to be good at. Usually I can outstrafe their bullets and stuff, but heavys have a lot of bulk for that range. I am now trying out a militia heavy with an advanced rail rifle and complex stuff. It's really effective. My 300 EHP scout suit can't keep up much, and they managed to kill me 12 times in one game. A admit, I detonated myself 5 times, and got a bunch of remote explosive kills, but still...I had to resort to that to kill him and his squad + their teams blueberries WITH remote explosives. Pretty pathetic huh? The combat rifle is nice for the scout suit, but anyone can run at a comparable speed and insta kill me. I did get 30 kills, but that's because a bunch of them were camping with forge guns, so their heads were big for me to slice off, and they weren't scanning at me for a bit, so I could slip in and kill a ton of them with remotes. I don't know how to fix this. Remove aim assist? Probably would fix it. I'd rather improve the aiming, because it's too inaccurate for me. Working as intended, unique fits like that extract tears is what this game needs more of not more FotM junk. The lack of diversity is killing this game and making it dull so don't try to force fits and make it more bland. If anything we need more of everything so suits are unpredictable. woah woah! Bringing in logic on DUST forums?! U crazy?! FoTM is what people rely on in this game! Crutch after crutch. It's the foundation of every new DUST update. The balancing is so poor, that it allows people this luxury. I'm waiting on the imminent heavy suit nerf again, because it doesn't fit into the medium suit + light weapon FoTM trend.
Canari Elphus Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1212	Posted - 2014.02.22 05:40:00 - [29] - Quote Honestly, the Heavy/RR only works in Ambush. In every other mode they add nothing to the team because they take up a vehicle spot for the LAV they need to get around in and can provide no equipment to help out. Most of them that I see in Ambush barely crack a 2 KDR. They will get that first kill or two in a 1v1 but anyone with high ground on them will pick them off as they either try to get to cover or lumber away. And with this challenge, they are giving me a ton of ISK and SP. Canari Elphus for CPM1
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1262	Posted - 2014.02.22 06:17:00 - [30] - Quote I can only get two shots in with a shotty and 2 damage mods on my scout until the Heavy turns around and I'm dead when he exhales. He barely had health, too. This is if I'm lucky. I found myself relying on a CR for heavies. Those things are super effective with only one freaking point on operations WITHOUT any damage mods. WTF!



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