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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:54:00 -
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QUESTION COMMUNITY.
The infamous Black Eagle Scout suit. It's visual designs are beautiful and nice enough to keep so you can wear it around the lobby but it's most prominent feature is that it has two light weapon slots very much like the Commandos.
My question is this...Should it actually be a specialization? Is it even viable enough for it? If not, would enhancements help it? Would it be better to stick this type of scout, with two light weapon slots, to the Gallente's race only or would it be fair if we gave it to everyone?
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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
4608
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:59:00 -
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I was always on board for some specializations to transcend frame sizes. I love the Black Eagle, but I also love my Commando. So why not simply have our normal Heavy Commando and then create a new Light Commando specialization skill and simply make the suits red highlighted light frames. Afterall, we have Assault Dropships which have the Assault white highlights, we had Scout LAVs which had the Scout blue highlights, and we had Logistics Dropships and Logistics LAVs with the Logistics yellow highlights.
I mean, if specializations to transcend to vehicles (and some to multiple vehicles, like Logistics), then why can't some specializations transcend to multiple frame sizes?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3483
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Posted - 2014.01.10 01:00:00 -
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It doesn't have 2 light weapons slots last time I checked- the AR is just a special sidearm.
Also, it doesn't even look unique anymore.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
1795
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Posted - 2014.01.10 01:01:00 -
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Yea. Do it. It'd be great.
Double light weapons moving super quick. Moppin the floor with scrubs left and right. I wouldnt use the suit (Sidearm kinda guy) But it'd be good.
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
649
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Posted - 2014.01.10 01:03:00 -
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No. Just give me the "Black Eagle" PR that's on it as a BPO 
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4009
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Posted - 2014.01.10 01:05:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:QUESTION COMMUNITY.
The infamous Black Eagle Scout suit. It's visual designs are beautiful and nice enough to keep so you can wear it around the lobby but it's most prominent feature is that it has two light weapon slots very much like the Commandos.
My question is this...Should it actually be a specialization? Is it even viable enough for it? If not, would enhancements help it? Would it be better to stick this type of scout, with two light weapon slots, to the Gallente's race only or would it be fair if we gave it to everyone?
It'd be cool if each race/different factions had their own special suit.
Gallente get the Two Light weaponed scout
Amarr get some kind of cool suit on their own, maybe like a sentinel suit with a built in weapon or something. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1122
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Posted - 2014.01.10 01:08:00 -
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There should be a light suit with 2x light weapons but it shouldn't be the black eagle. It should be a light suit specialized for AV. It won't have the scout's stealth so it would rely on speed and range. The 2nd light weapon gives the AV suit the ability to defend itself at range as well.
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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
4612
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Posted - 2014.01.10 01:19:00 -
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Commando (Light): +3% effective range of all weapons per level
Amarr Commando (Light): +5% stamina and stamina recovery per level
Caldari Commando (Light): need to think of something
Gallente Commando (Light): need to think of something
Minmatar Commando (Light): +2% sprint speed per level
Basically this suit would be a dual light weapon wielding light frame. It would excel in working the perimeters of maps, hence the range and movement bonuses. It would work great in combination with a light AV weapon.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
834
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Posted - 2014.01.10 01:59:00 -
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Some good responses. I'd personally want to have each race to have their own one-of-a-kind specialization suits.
The Gallente with their Light Frame Slayer suit.
The Amarr with some Crusader Medium Suit with lots of armor and equipment or something.
Idk. They could definitely get real crazy with their suits after all of the core stuff's been handled.
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2649
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:03:00 -
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You ignore the fact that it also has higher innate shields and a much faster sprint rate. So if you introduce a faster-than-minmatar-scout-scout-with-two-light-weapons-among-them-the-Assault-Rifle-and-shotgun-even-though-it-has-only-like-one-slot-or-something would it be OP?
I think so. I've come across 3 black eagles today alone, one who did VERY well. So I'm thinking not.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2062
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:04:00 -
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Kill off the Pilot Suit (if they're even still in production)
Make the Black Eagle Commando the second Light Frame.
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2649
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:15:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Kill off the Pilot Suit (if they're even still in production)
Make the Black Eagle Commando the second Light Frame.
Wait a ******* second
Does the scout skill apply to black eagles? After all it is a Scout G/1 series, just a super special one. Just make it the C series scout, problem solved (but you gotta add back the B series first though....a long awaited return)
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
835
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:20:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Kill off the Pilot Suit (if they're even still in production)
Make the Black Eagle Commando the second Light Frame. Wait a ******* second Does the scout skill apply to black eagles? After all it is a Scout G/1 series, just a super special one. Just make it the C series scout, problem solved (but you gotta add back the B series first though....a long awaited return)
A Black Eagle Scout that's hard to scan?  It just got real.
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:23:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Kill off the Pilot Suit (if they're even still in production)
Make the Black Eagle Commando the second Light Frame. Wait a ******* second Does the scout skill apply to black eagles? After all it is a Scout G/1 series, just a super special one. Just make it the C series scout, problem solved (but you gotta add back the B series first though....a long awaited return)
It didn't seem to apply for me during the Black Eagle event. I have Scout lvl 5 and dampner lvl 5, and I was getting lit up by scanners. I don't think that many people had the duvolles out at that time, but maybe that was just an anomaly.
Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2062
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:33:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Kill off the Pilot Suit (if they're even still in production)
Make the Black Eagle Commando the second Light Frame. Wait a ******* second Does the scout skill apply to black eagles? After all it is a Scout G/1 series, just a super special one. Just make it the C series scout, problem solved (but you gotta add back the B series first though....a long awaited return)
Dunno.
I'll look in-game this evening, by which time a definitive answer will probably be provided.
Those skills absolutely should transfer, but I can imagine it being an oversight.
Beer before Liquor, never sicker.
Toothpaste before Orange Juice, you're dead.
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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
4620
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:38:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Kill off the Pilot Suit (if they're even still in production)
Make the Black Eagle Commando the second Light Frame. You know there can be more than just two specializations for each frame size?
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2063
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Posted - 2014.01.10 03:35:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Kill off the Pilot Suit (if they're even still in production)
Make the Black Eagle Commando the second Light Frame. You know there can be more than just two specializations for each frame size?
There could be, but at the moment it seems like 2 is the magic number.
Heavy/Commando, Assault/Logi, Scout/Pilot(?)
But they already ran a "balance" pass on vehicles, without Pilot suit input, so I'm assuming that those suits are dead.
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Toothpaste before Orange Juice, you're dead.
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