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Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:04:00 -
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The duvolle is probably the worst of the four prototype rifles sorry to break it to you, it's pointless without damage mods and almost every other rifle preforms better than it in pretty much all the situations... |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:05:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:The duvolle is probably the worst of the four prototype rifles sorry to break it to you, it's pointless without damage mods and almost every other rifle preforms better than it in pretty much all the situations...
CCP didn't nerf it they just made everything else better. |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
321
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:07:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:The duvolle is probably the worst of the four prototype rifles sorry to break it to you, it's pointless without damage mods and almost every other rifle preforms better than it in pretty much all the situations... CCP didn't nerf it they just made everything else better.
Im pretty sure its a nerf. I can do 10x better with a STD combat/ rail than i can with a duvolle. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
1793
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:08:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:The duvolle is probably the worst of the four prototype rifles sorry to break it to you, it's pointless without damage mods and almost every other rifle preforms better than it in pretty much all the situations... CCP didn't nerf it they just made everything else better. Im pretty sure its a nerf. I can do 10x better with a STD combat/ rail than i can with a duvolle.
well, then, you must be really bad with the Duvolle.
It's quite easy to have a good game with it. The rail rifle is a bit to good though.
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Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
321
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:09:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:The duvolle is probably the worst of the four prototype rifles sorry to break it to you, it's pointless without damage mods and almost every other rifle preforms better than it in pretty much all the situations... CCP didn't nerf it they just made everything else better. Im pretty sure its a nerf. I can do 10x better with a STD combat/ rail than i can with a duvolle. well, then, you must be really bad with the Duvolle. It's quite easy to have a good game with it. The rail rifle is a bit to good though.
Dude, i used to be amazing with the duvolle in 1.6 rippin sh*t up left and right now its like ok if i aim wtf will happen... |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1522
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:12:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:The duvolle is probably the worst of the four prototype rifles sorry to break it to you, it's pointless without damage mods and almost every other rifle preforms better than it in pretty much all the situations... CCP didn't nerf it they just made everything else better. Im pretty sure its a nerf. I can do 10x better with a STD combat/ rail than i can with a duvolle. well, then, you must be really bad with the Duvolle. It's quite easy to have a good game with it. The rail rifle is a bit to good though. Dude, i used to be amazing with the duvolle in 1.6 rippin sh*t up left and right now its like ok if i aim wtf will happen...
That's because there was no other gun to compete with it... now there are guns that compete and exceed it... The gun was never touched but like I said everything else is better. For example a RR does the SAME damage as your duvolle except at a longer range. So when trying to close the distance gap and within your guns range the RR is shooting at you with the same force as your duvolle. This is very one sided towards the rail. The same applies for the combat rifle. |
Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:12:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:CCP why do you over nerf everything?
For the meanest of lulz.
No opinion on the rifle.
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Forums > Game
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI
Proficiency V.
25
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:16:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:The duvolle is probably the worst of the four prototype rifles sorry to break it to you, it's pointless without damage mods and almost every other rifle preforms better than it in pretty much all the situations... CCP didn't nerf it they just made everything else better. Im pretty sure its a nerf. I can do 10x better with a STD combat/ rail than i can with a duvolle. well, then, you must be really bad with the Duvolle. It's quite easy to have a good game with it. The rail rifle is a bit to good though. Dude, i used to be amazing with the duvolle in 1.6 rippin sh*t up left and right now its like ok if i aim wtf will happen...
I have to echo your feelings. Before 1.7 with my duvolle and damage mods I was going usually between 35-41 and 2 per match. Can't do it anymore with it. So I think there had to be a nerf somewhere. I can do that with RR or CR though.
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
512
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:20:00 -
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The AR is supposed to be the definitive close-quarters rifle. But it is outclassed in its supposed niche by all the other new rifles.
Never thought I'd say this, but: the AR needs some love. |
Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:25:00 -
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Say you are asked to guess a number abetween 1 and 100 in as few tries as possible, and after each try you were told if the number is higher or lower. So your first guess would be 50. Then say you were told that the number is lower. What would be a better second guess, 25 or 49?
This is the same concept with game design. If something is overpowered or underpowered, it is more efficient to make a more extreme change in the opposite direction than it is to only mildly tweak it in the proper direction until it is fixed. This way, you are able to collect data on what is too high, what is too low, and then really start narrowing in on the sweet spot.
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1405
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Posted - 2014.01.10 01:01:00 -
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The AR was BUFFED for 1.7.
Let's let that sink in for a second.
It was buffed. It had its range increased.
And there were plenty of "AR is overpowered" threads prior to 1.7, too. (Not that I fully agreed with them.)
Now... since the AR was buffed, and suddenly it feels like the weakest rifle, what does that tell us about the current state of rifles in the game?
Aero Yassavi wrote: If something is overpowered or underpowered, it is more efficient to make a more extreme change in the opposite direction than it is to only mildly tweak it in the proper direction until it is fixed
Aero... anyone with the ability to read and compare numbers knew the rifles were headed for problems the moment their stats were published. You cannot give two things the same DPS and one of them much greater range and call it balanced.
What you mentioned doesn't lead to efficient game design, it leads to frustrated players sick of riding the lollercoaster. 
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