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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:25:00 -
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It should be only visual. It should not lower your scan profile.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:28:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It should be only visual. It should not lower your scan profile.
Yes, it should slightly, as scanners will get even more overpowered
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:43:00 -
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If the Devs goal is to get scout suits better stealth they should just lower the relevant suit stat instead of forcing them a to use a cloak. If a direct stat buff is too much then a suit related skill.
If the goal is to share the stealthy love to other frames then let us see where this goes. Also keeping the pressure on the Devs with this and other potential issues. These fundamental game-design screw-ups need to stop.
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Centurion mkII
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:44:00 -
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Yes it should , the active scanner is game breaking enough. |
Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:44:00 -
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It should block active scanners (to compensate for the scout dampening nerf) and LoS (because it's a cloak), but not passive on the minimal.
This would give scouts the added role of counter scouting.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:47:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:If the Devs goal is to get scout suits better stealth they should just lower the relevant suit stat instead of forcing them a to use a cloak. If a direct stat buff is too much then a suit related skill.
If the goal is to share the stealthy love to other frames then let us see where this goes. Also keeping the pressure on the Devs with this and other potential issues. These fundamental game-design screw-ups need to stop.
One guy in the room that thinks long enough to understand. Thanks for rising above, Shallows.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:48:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It should be only visual. It should not lower your scan profile.
If scanners remain as they are, and the Galogi bonus happens as written, a small (2%?) bonus should apply
*With some modification to the scanners
I agree, but scanners really need some reassessment
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:49:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:It should block active scanners (to compensate for the scout dampening nerf) and LoS (because it's a cloak), but not passive on the minimal.
This would give scouts the added role of counter scouting.
See... Here's the thing.
These cloaks are likely to be able to go fairly easily on other suits. Consider that the logis have a 25% fitting reduction to equipment costs and also have plentiful slots and PG/CPU. It's going to be fairly easy for them to fit it.
I don't think it's a good idea to chain the scouts to the cloak whilst having it be so accessible to the other races. With the new bonuses, scouts have in fact been nerfed. Their scan profile is now distinctly lacklustre and some of the other bonuses have been reduced.
The cloak is not the key. It can help, but we are heading towards medframe cloaking supremacy while scouts get worse.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:51:00 -
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I would like an active jammer / dampener though :D
Though I agree don't mix visual and electronic stealthing too much, one would just role stomp the other.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
677
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:56:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:If the Devs goal is to get scout suits better stealth they should just lower the relevant suit stat instead of forcing them a to use a cloak. If a direct stat buff is too much then a suit related skill.
If the goal is to share the stealthy love to other frames then let us see where this goes.
no, not "to other frames". Just the logi.
CCP loves me some logi.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I would like an active jammer / dampener though :D
Though I agree don't mix visual and electronic stealthing too much, one would just role stomp the other.
There should be an active dampener, it just shouldn't be the Cloak.
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:10:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It should be only visual. It should not lower your scan profile.
No it most defiantly should, IF the Scouts are to loose the Profile Dampening Bonus, WITHOUT the Suits Base profile being used to compensate.
If you allow cloaked entities to be scanned that ruins the whole point of the cloaked play, there would be no point playing a cloaked scout if a Gallante Logistics with an Advanced (or any one with a proto) scanner can like you up like christmas tree with a massive orange pulsing chevron above your head.
If Scouts are going to be easier to Scan while uncloaked, it should take a Gallante Logistics with a Duvolle Focused Scanner to catch them while Cloaked.
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