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Roy Ventus wrote:

edguy 111 wrote:

the problem with logi is the isk we make. peoples want real logi but my adv logi cost 125k my repair tool alone cost 35k.....how i suppose to play medic and make isk? use equipment lv1 when i have play months to get my proto equipment? and dont tell me " play ambush" because it pointless always full of asian jerks with tonne of isk that only play proto and tanks vs new players and peoples trying to make some isk. i mean come on my proto triage hives cost more than my dropship.....geez ccp if you want real logi slash equipment price by half

I do your job with ADV equipment and a STD Gal-Logi.

Obviously, you're doing something wrong...whether it's how you fit your Logi or where you play it.

I don't try to use anything above 50k often because one death from that too early on and I can easily go negative. But let's ignore that and focus more on how you're not gaining enough ISK as a Logi. As a Logi, you should be getting paid more than an Assault usually...I'm talking like 200k-300k in decent matches and 300k+ in good matches.


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Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2669	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:01:00 - [1] - Quote I'm making ISK with the ADV MIN suit and proto equipment in all three slots. Costs range from 45-57k ISK a fitting. That's probably because I carry a STD BPO AR and don't run the CPU upgrade and all those Complex Extenders. I also have some full BPO or nearly all BPO fits to use after I drop the equipment. It's wasteful to carry proto equipment to drop when running with the rep tool. You will die too frequently at the front line. My medic fit is the BPO SEVR suit with the MLT BPO repair tool. It costs nothing and yields multiples of the WP's of the proto as it's all based on cycle count. The better tools require fewer cycles and pay out less because of it. Ditch the high end tool and get the MLT BPO. Strip the suit down to that and the BPO needle and hives. Fit a BPO light weapon and grenade on a free suit and you can make bank at zero risk, or you can toss on a scanner or upgraded hives at nominal cost. Remember, you are a mercenary, not a charity.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2669	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:14:00 - [2] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: edguy 111 wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: How does your advanced logi cost over 100K? My advanced fit is about 45K and my prototype fit is around 150K. Share your fit please. first i got cpu,pg lv5, adv combat rifle, m1 nades, 3 complex shield extender, 2 adv armor plate, 1 complex pg upgrade, 1 wikormy triage hive, complex needle and a core focus rep tool on an adv minmetar. and my proto is 290k :/ You can run whatever fit you want but I'd suggest that the equipment you are running is too expensive for most matches. Maybe pick one item to run at prototype and drop the rest to advanced to cut your costs. Run a seperate fit for proto equipment to drop. Try to place it and swap before dying. If you do lose it you have the option to come back in a cheap suit. ADV and Proto needles and repair tools have no place in pubs unless your squad takes responsibility for your defense or is willing to fund your losses. You aren't a charity. The free gear yields far better rewards too, rewards that count toward the next OB.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2669	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:20:00 - [3] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: edguy 111 wrote: the problem with logi is the isk we make. peoples want real logi but my adv logi cost 125k my repair tool alone cost 35k.....how i suppose to play medic and make isk? use equipment lv1 when i have play months to get my proto equipment? and dont tell me " play ambush" because it pointless always full of asian jerks with tonne of isk that only play proto and tanks vs new players and peoples trying to make some isk. i mean come on my proto triage hives cost more than my dropship.....geez ccp if you want real logi slash equipment price by half I do your job with ADV equipment and a STD Gal-Logi. Obviously, you're doing something wrong...whether it's how you fit your Logi or where you play it. I don't try to use anything above 50k often because one death from that too early on and I can easily go negative. But let's ignore that and focus more on how you're not gaining enough ISK as a Logi. As a Logi, you should be getting paid more than an Assault usually...I'm talking like 200k-300k in decent matches and 300k+ in good matches. I'll keep bringing out the 57k fit if the spawn and triage points keep streaming in as I know that I'm likely to get 250-300k for my troubles and I really like to win. I'm willing to risk an occasional ISK loss to win, and I'm slowly making money despite that.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2671	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:40:00 - [4] - Quote Think of it this way: Being a profitable Logi is like being in business. You can have people working for you or you can be a wage slave earning money via your personal labor. The business owner with people working for him can be far more profitiable than even the most eager beaver wage slave. He can take time off and still make money because he has other people working for him. Your medic logi follows a heavy or small squad around waiting for an opportunity to earn a few WP's. That's a very poor way to spend your time. The opportunities are low and the cost is high. You put yourself at considerable risk as the enemy will consider you more dangerous and kill you first. The equipment support logi on the other hand lays out useful equipment in prime locations. You want diligent workers, not a bunch of gossips gathered at the water cooler so don't drop them all in one place. Care for your employees and don't put them in places that are likely to get destroyed. Put them where the customers are. Hives and triage near the front and spawn points near but not visible from the front. Put some around behind the enemy so Assaults can flank them. it's not enough to hire good workers and send them to the best places, you also have to tend to them. Invariably some quit, either wearing out or being destroyed by the enemy. Some might simply get left behind as the front moves. Keep an eye out and replace the ones that need replacing. If the match is going well you might find you have time to sit back and take a well deserved break. At this time you can switch to an Assault fitting to have some fun shooting faces, or swap to an inexpensive medic fit to have fun at the front line, or you can simply sit back and watch the battle from a safe vantage point. Some matches will find you in constant motion, always behind as the enemy destroys uplinks and hives. It's up to you to decide when to cut your losses if your blues are simply not up to the task of putting up a good fight. That happens far less when you place good flanking uplinks, but sometimes there's nothing you can do.