Why dont you bring something to the table instead of flipping it every second?

Whatever it was; it did not warrant my attention long enough.

Continuing on with the conversation.

Knowing CCP it is far far far easier to ask for a buff than a nerf. It is far easier to get these hooks and mechanics in so they can work with other things in the future instead of having to go back reprogram it and recreate a new technical hurdle to nerf it.

I'm pretty sure nobody said it's a coding issue.

The problem is that releasing something new is almost always going to have it slightly off from perfect balance.

If you allow it to be OP, then it's going to be nerfed, and everyone knows CCP over-nerf when something looks OP. You can look at almost every example of a nerf in DUST for evidence of that. Breach ARs way back in closed beta, Tac ARs more recently, HAVs when they were OP and got nerfed so hard that high-end shield tanks had to run from Militia Swarms, Flaylocks, etc, etc, etc.

If they make sure the cloak is released SLIGHTLY underpowered - I agree the proposal currently appearing is probably more of a "pre-nerf" than we should be aiming for - then it will be first in line for buffs when CCP are reviewing things and see very few people using it, and the ones who do having only limited success.

It isn't a matter of CODING. It's a matter of CCP's approach to development and trying to fix problems. People are trying to work around CCP's inherent inability to nerf things properly by forcing them to buff what needs fixing instead.

A better solution would be to keep calling CCP out on their draconian over-nerfing until they ACTUALLY START LISTENING.

When a lot of people are screaming loudly on the forums that something is broken and OP, that means a lot of people are noticing it's OP. It doesn't necessarily mean that the item in question is so horrifically OP that it needs 20% reductions in capability across almost every aspect of its functionality.

CCP seem to understand how to incrementally buff something by improving one or two aspects in small increments, but when they nerf, they hit EVERYTHING that made the item in question useful.

Not much of a coding issue, just having something easier to buff when the rule state not only exists but can be something done over a hot patch instead of waiting for a monthly patch. This takes time, planning and creates what is known as technical debt, things that need to be done to be done and rather working on the next patches contents they're now hurdled down and doing rework over something that should have been done the first go around.

Also these days I can't wait for things to be in the game to see then have it nerfed, not with the upcoming schedule of how things are going to be soon. Remember our old roadmap is coming to an end and nobody around publically knows exactly what the new road map has in store yet.

I invite you to take a stroll through all of the SDE and try to think how ccp thinks, you'll see the level atrocities they do commit currently. http://pct-gritb.rhcloud.com/sde/class

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Manage this situation.

Active scanner told you how many ninjas are out there. Flux grenade has been proven to be very unreliable (hence its unpopularity) in destroying equipment of any sort so decloaking is also less likely.

manage the situation.

First off all the above solutions you provided are needle in the haystacks firings and waste of good ammo.

Passive scanners visuals are somewhat broken as well... There is a common complaint about the IFFs not working all that well and leading to plenty of both friendly fire incidents and botched attacks. This compounding with lack of hitmarkers and reticle color changes on a variety of weapons is making this portion of game play ever increasingly annoying.

BTW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine_warfare

Actually it breaks your point quite a bit but since you're incapable of getting it. Lets play this again then

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ocean.jpg

I am a new generation diesel sub, I don't want to be found, Find me. All the old methods the old tech it don't work anymore, feel free to use them.

@broker

Well, the only concern I have is the ability to fire while cloaked. If the mechanic was designed so that firing even a single shot regardless of the weapon (sniper, smg, pistol, etc) would decloak the suit completely, then I wouldn't mind it being allowed to fire when cloaked. Perhaps even make an exception for nova knives (uncharged) or melee attacks when fitted on a Minmatar scout suit so that dedicated knifers can make the most of the cloak. I mean after all the Minmatar scout does need some cloak related bonus. The Amarr and Caldari scouts already have cloak-based bonuses such one for cooldown and another for firing.

Now if a cloak allowed more than one shot to be fired without losing all of the cloak, then that might present problems.