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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:08:00 -
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Minmatar scout melee bonus is still less than medium frame melee, even when maxed out; its also weird for it to get a bonus to another race's weapon (nova knives are Caldari). The 5% hacking speed bonus (which seems like its going to be removed from the Minmatar logi) would be perfect on a scout given that they have the speed to quickly and stealthily reach objectives.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:56:00 -
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Tonka Legacy wrote:GREAT wasted all my SP in Minotaur logi for the hack speed to be taken from me? Damn. Also yes I feel the light frame needs something more than just being a dead man walking. Hack speed would make me use it more. I even got those complex codebreaker things
Eko Sol wrote:This is the first I'm hearing that the min-logi is getting its hacking bonus removed. The whole reason I went that route is because of that benefit. Sigh. Well guess I have to +1 this as well since I will have to re-spec into min-scout for the hack bonus I want.
You can find more info here in case you guys are interested.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.10 03:02:00 -
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I want still
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.10 13:44:00 -
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Anyone else?
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:38:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Minmatar scout melee bonus is still less than medium frame melee, even when maxed out; its also weird for it to get a bonus to another race's weapon (nova knives are Caldari). The 5% hacking speed bonus (which seems like its going to be removed from the Minmatar logi) would be perfect on a scout given that they have the speed to quickly and stealthily reach objectives. That would be OP compared to the other bonuses. Remember, they're going to have cloaking soon. Nova knives will be relevant (if tweaked).
The bonus is not needed to make nova knives useful while cloaked. Also, I don't think a hacking bonus would be OP compared to the others (the Amarr one might get a cloak cooldown time reduction bonus, and the Caldari one might get a bonus to be able t fire more while cloaked).
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.11 19:45:00 -
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More thoughts welcomed
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.11 20:07:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Why Minmatar only? Why not Gallente, or Caldari, or Amarr?
I'm proposing this as a racial bonus, not a role bonus, but it would indeed fit as either. Caldari could get the role bonus CCP is considering (cloak field fitting bonus) as their racial bonus.
I'd be fine with this as either role or racial bonus.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.11 20:57:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Min scout needs more than just the hacking bonus.
Give it the 5% hacking bonus and a 3% sprint speed bonus (slightly more than a cmp kincat).
What If the hacking bonus was the role bonus, and the Minmatar scout bonus was to the efficacy (and or fitting) of biotic modules (kinkats, stimulants, and cardiacs)
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.11 22:04:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Min scout needs more than just the hacking bonus.
Give it the 5% hacking bonus and a 3% sprint speed bonus (slightly more than a cmp kincat). What If the hacking bonus was the role bonus, and the Minmatar scout bonus was to the efficacy (and or fitting) of biotic modules (kinkats, stimulants, and cardiacs) That would be a bit unfair to the min. It only has two lows so it wouldn't get much use out it (myofibrils are useless). Giving the Min a direct sprint speed increase allows it to make up for its low number of low slots while also ensuring it is the speed scout. As for making hacking the role bonus, I don't think the role of all scouts should be hacking. Each suit should focus on weakening the enemy in different ways.
What do you (if you are a Minmatar scout) or others use those 2 low slots on? I'd figure you could just one for a dampener, and a kinkat in the other.
I'd be totally fine with a speed bonus though.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.12 00:07:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:What do you (if you are a Minmatar scout) or others use those 2 low slots on? I'd figure you could just one for a dampener, and a kinkat in the other.
I'd be totally fine with a speed bonus though. True. I believe most min scouts do use 2x kincats and if the bonus was like 5% per level to biotics efficacy, they would move at similar speeds as if they had a 15% base sprint speed increase. I just prefer bonuses to affect base stats rather than specific modules so they can be helpful no matter what fit you are using.
I find a bonus to biotics much more versatile though, since it could also be used for more than just speed mods (maybe in the future myofibrals won't suck). What if the efficacy was 50% per level when maxed out?
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.12 09:11:00 -
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More thoughts are welcomed.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.13 06:54:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:This makes a lot of sense. +1
Awww yeah, CPM approved, and not even one of the irrationally hated ones either.
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