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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:39:00 -
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There is a problem of what is right?
We can look at a large number of games that have done cloaks where they are either the worst or or over best feature of the multiplayer experience to where it becomes a rather un fun game for those who do not cloak.
Crysis, Planetside 2, Killzone and others come to mind.
So far we have a few good rules based on the posts so far but it would not hurt to add a bit more and to find out if anything is changing for scanners, but it only takes one exceptional rule and that cloak becomes the worst thing i the world to ever exist.
So the biggest question is
Why?
Why Cloaks?
I see cloaks as a mobility tool, to allow players to cross dangerous and highly visible areas of the game, this game has quite a few open places.
I do not want to see cloaks utilized as a weapon or a means of 'invincibility' that other games have made it to be at times.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:50:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There is a problem of what is right.
We can look at a large number of games that have done cloaks where they are either the worst or or over best feature of the multiplayer experience to where it becomes a rather un fun game for those who do not cloak.
Crysis, Planetside 2, Killzone and others come to mind. Halo 3 did it right. But ever since Halo 4 came out, the cloak has become UNDERpowered since the introduction of the Promethean Vision.
Which is the other half of what I can see going wrong with this cloaking with the active scanner.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:57:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There is a problem of what is right.
We can look at a large number of games that have done cloaks where they are either the worst or or over best feature of the multiplayer experience to where it becomes a rather un fun game for those who do not cloak.
Crysis, Planetside 2, Killzone and others come to mind. Halo 3 did it right. But ever since Halo 4 came out, the cloak has become UNDERpowered since the introduction of the Promethean Vision. Which is the other half of what I can see going wrong with this cloaking with the active scanner. There is a difference between the Active Scanner and the Promethean Vision. There is one way to avoid the scanner. There is no way to avoid the Promethean Vision.
but if the gal logi bonus through as is there won't be.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:15:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: So the biggest question is
Why?
Why Cloaks?
I see cloaks as a mobility tool, to allow players to cross dangerous and highly visible areas of the game, this game has quite a few open places.
I do not want to see cloaks utilized as a weapon or a means of 'invincibility' that other games have made it to be at times.
That is all easily rectified by playing a scout, IWS. How you see it is not from a scouts perspective. Your perspective makes it utilitarian... which is great! But That would be a normal cloak. A Covert Ops Cloak is what we are getting, and that's what scouts need.
I have a shotty minnie scout for urban fighting.
I would make a urban gal scout but I can't get the stealth high enough to dodge the scans showing up lately, My cal assault is nearly just as stealthy at the moment.
I was banned from using cloaks, overshields, and assault rifles in halo lan parties.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:25:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:
In what, halo 3?
Nobody banned me from using those things in LAN parties.
1 and 2
There was another guy at the lan party that we were also never allowed to be on the same team.
I didn't mind the party was meant to have fun not pwn everything.
Pwning everything is for tournaments such as the annual base halo tournament at the MWR.
To be honest they couldn't figure out what weapon they could restrict me to in halo 1 that would have stopped me from dominating, probably the rocket launcher because I would have ran out of ammo.
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